Mr.WHAM Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Uggghh I have read every single manga of Naruto there is and yes I know that Kakashi got his eye from Obito, BUT Chaos, You must not be up on the whole Madara IS OBITO debate, which is not even a debate anymore b/c Madara & Kakashi's Sharingans have been proven in the manga to match each other PERFECTLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 sorry, but it's impossible for madara to be Obito. i meanm the number of times that he talks to Obito when he visits his grave, no to mention the fact that Obito was much younger then Madara and came after him. i mean, seriously, where's the logic in the obito is madara argument? and also take into account that kakashi would have gained all of obitos abilities that he had in that one eye, which means that kakshi's mangekyo would look just like madaras, which it does not. and even aside from that, half of obito was crushed by a giant rock for craps sake! and don't you find it weird that the only similarity with obito and madara is that they are both missing their left eye, which kakashi just happens to have gotten from obito who is not madara? /undeniable logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 There are flaws with your arguement, for example Madara was Tobi, and Kakashi doesn't actually see his body. In the manga itself, Kakashi has realizations abvout Madara's sharigans. And knowing who Uchiha Madara is he probably performed a just similar to Orochimaru's. This very well may be why Madara wanted Pein/Nagato to bring him back to life. I mean even Itachi was shocked to see that Madara was still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 There's a bit flaw in the "madara is obito" thing. Age. madara was alive before obito was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 And he was alive waaay before itachi was too, but he was still around then. Explain that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 remember, he's immortal. He was alive back when the 1st was alive. and the 1st was alive when tsunade was a teenager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 i have 2 words for you guys.eternal mangekyo.nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Madara is not immortal. Its a jutsu he uses. I think its like the body swap. But yes the eternal sharingan is going to have to be a b!tch to able to kill him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Also, notice how tobi has the sharingan on the same side as kakashi. I believe I have won. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 you don't get it whamo-kun. the eternal mangekyo lives up to its name of making him immortal, or at least as close to it as humanly possible. in other words, so long as he is not killed in battle or something like that, he can live practically forever. this is another major flaw in the obito is madara argument, the fact that obito died.um, DL? i believe that kakashi has a sharingan on the left, while madara has a sharingan on the right. this fact is one of the major things that gives the madara is obito some small truth, even if the cake is a lie the rest of it is bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLÂ Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 peopel think obito died, his body was never found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 wasn't it found and buried though? or is there something about obitos grave being empty? =/also check my previous post for updated arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Yes. Which means tobi and obito coudn't be the same person. Obito's right side was crushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 and i pointed this out to whamo-kun earlier as well. perhaps now he shall realize that my argument is valid while his is not?whamo-kun, this ones for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I have the bakatana. ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I wield the power of Jack the Revellionutioner whose awesomeness owns all other characters minus Blaze, Xoapocalypis, and Elemento/a EDIT: I must also check the validity of your staements, and regardless of what you say, I still think that behine that mask is a crushed face. Also Madara wanted pain to bring him back to life, so hes not alive therefore not immortal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 the bakatana is invalid, as i have never heard of it before. also, it really serves no purpose whereas my banning blade, well.... *hefts the banning blade* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I've wielded the banblade before. Anyway, on topic, anything new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 well aside from discovering the epicness that is the nightmare of nunally, not really. i watched the 2 most recent chapter of FMA and the most recent chapter of naruto and bleach. the fact that everyone from the soul society believes in ichigo to the point that they would all immediately come to the decision of protecting him at the same time, that was just awesome. and the way that shinji said that he and the other vizards are on ichigos side suggests that they recognize ichigo as a leader to a certain degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Yeah, but I still found it unecesary, I mean, protect ichigo? How? They've all seen the kyouka suigetsu. Plus, where's Gin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 i have no idea where gin is, but the point is for them to protect him from seeing kyoka suigetsu's shikai form so that he will be able to strike aizen down. you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Wait,, that's like him fighting blind. I personally think he's going to fight blind. don't see how Aizen got so strong, though. Also... where's old man yamamoto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 how the crap am i supposed to know? if hey haven't said anything about gin and yama in the manga recently, it must be because they are currently not important enough to the plot to mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DL Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Well they were there, they should fight! i want to see Gin vs. Ichigo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 yeah, that would be an epic peace. that likely won't happen until the final fight with aizen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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