CrabHelmet Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Like my math textbook, I leave the proof as an exercise to the reader. Because watching YCM argue is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePeel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 A -1 that supports OTK's and FTK's by removing the some of the most dangerous hazards. Sort of like Brionic in a sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Angel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 There's a difference between Brionac and Trunade though =/ Trunade just does S/T. And if your smart, you're running chainables anyways. Gian Trunade's fine at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 A -1 that supports OTK's and FTK's by removing the some of the most dangerous hazards. Sort of like Brionic in a sense. But you can reuse cards left on the field like CotH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePeel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 A -1 that supports OTK's and FTK's by removing the some of the most dangerous hazards. Sort of like Brionic in a sense. But you can reuse cards left on the field like CotH. Doesn't matter if you win that turn. Also providing if it doesn't get negated the only danger is monsters which should one would hope you had a way to clear is you are using this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hrash0 Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Lol if Trunade should be banned then every copy of Heavy Storm should be torn to shreds.But for the record GT>HS since you can still use your Spells and Traps. This is why I think HS should be semied, GT banned since it's so damn annoying, more so than HS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePeel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Lol if Trunade should be banned then every copy of Heavy Storm should be torn to shreds.But for the record GT>HS since you can still use your Spells and Traps. This is why I think HS should be semied' date=' GT banned since it's so damn annoying, more so than HS.[/quote']Â HS is a ban worthy card anyways. A weaker version with a cost should be made and then HS should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 CON: Trunade promotes OTKs and reckless play after clearing the backfield.PRO: Trunade helps to avoid stall becoming dominant by being mass removalHowever, Heavy Storm does the PRO and CON side of this while also discouraging stall in the first place because the staller could lose advantage. Having this limited is about as sensible as semi'ing Heavy. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 trunade allows players to use their spells/traps next turn. in certain situations, that could re-use powerful spells/traps, in other cases, it just stalls the activation of spells and traps. if trunade gets banned, and i don't think it will, heavy storm will be banned long before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 dark hole = banned,yet hs = limited... so obvgt = banned...? >___> mmmm, kay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Angel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Lol if Trunade should be banned then every copy of Heavy Storm should be torn to shreds.But for the record GT>HS since you can still use your Spells and Traps. This is why I think HS should be semied' date=' GT banned since it's so damn annoying, more so than HS.[/quote'] You're kidding, right...? Why would you ever play Heavy with set cards on your field...? =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Lol if Trunade should be banned then every copy of Heavy Storm should be torn to shreds.But for the record GT>HS since you can still use your Spells and Traps. This is why I think HS should be semied' date=' GT banned since it's so damn annoying, more so than HS.[/quote'] You're kidding, right...? Why would you ever play Heavy with set cards on your field...? =/ If your set cards were unimportant and/or you had a combo that would ensure your victory. but heavy storm should never be semi'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePeel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Lol if Trunade should be banned then every copy of Heavy Storm should be torn to shreds.But for the record GT>HS since you can still use your Spells and Traps. This is why I think HS should be semied' date=' GT banned since it's so damn annoying, more so than HS.[/quote'] You're kidding, right...? Why would you ever play Heavy with set cards on your field...? =/ They 5 cards you have 1 or 2? also Statue of the Wicked maybe?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Angel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Lol if Trunade should be banned then every copy of Heavy Storm should be torn to shreds.But for the record GT>HS since you can still use your Spells and Traps. This is why I think HS should be semied' date=' GT banned since it's so damn annoying, more so than HS.[/quote'] You're kidding, right...? Why would you ever play Heavy with set cards on your field...? =/ If your set cards were unimportant and/or you had a combo that would ensure your victory. but heavy storm should never be semi'd. I never said it should be. But the guy I quoted seems a little off to say that Trunade is better because you can still use your S/Ts... =/ EDIT: Statue of the Wicked is a pretty terrible card anyways. It doesn't deserve a spot =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 I never said it should be. But the guy I quoted seems a little off to say that Trunade is better because you can still use your S/Ts... =/Â EDIT: Statue of the Wicked is a pretty terrible card anyways. It doesn't deserve a spot =/Â agreed. i wonder how funny this is to crab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Angel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 I never said it should be. But the guy I quoted seems a little off to say that Trunade is better because you can still use your S/Ts... =/ EDIT: Statue of the Wicked is a pretty terrible card anyways. It doesn't deserve a spot =/ agreed. i wonder how funny this is to crab Probably very entertaining =P Now is probably the moment he's considering joining the topic as Devil's advocate to promote the banning of Trunade. ... NOW! xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePeel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 EDIT: Statue of the Wicked is a pretty terrible card anyways. It doesn't deserve a spot =/Â I know I was just trying to think of reasons to heavy your own cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 GIANT TRUNADE IS OK AT 3.  ...  My deck is immune to giant trunade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Crab, stop doing this!We can't figure out things like that without you![/sarcasm]I have no problems with Trunade being at 1. Trunade is, unlike Storm, good for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePeel Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Crab' date=' stop doing this!We can't figure out things like that without you![/sarcasm]I have no problems with Trunade being at 1. Trunade is, unlike Storm, good for the game. Depends on your definition of "good for the game". It still clear the field to allow an otk/ftk. I rarely see it used except when people are have all the pieces for victory in their hand and on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 I haven't really thought that much on Giant Trunade, so I'd rather hear some reasoning before I form an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Other then the Tundo OTK, I can't think of a single OTK that wouldn't rather have Heavy Storm in place of Giant Trunade. That being said, I'm pretty sure that under a "good" banlist, most of the OTKs would be eliminated anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Konami decides where it goes on the ban list, not YCM. But, as of powerful it is, atleast 90% or more of the time I wish to have Heavy Storm. Not as Banible as Heavy Storm. Should stay where it is. However, unless we banned Heavy Storm, then it gets different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Trunade is almost the same as Storm. Clear your opponent's back row then push for game. The fact that your opponent doesn't loss the cards doesn't mater if they loss that turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Trunade should be banned long before heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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