Sploda Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 Liberty is just another form of Tyranny. There is no such thing as freedom unless there is anarchy. For as long as you follow the rules of another, they rule you. They control your actions, your thoughts, your place in society. It is the people's responsibility to challenge the authority of the Government, otherwise there is no nation only the state. The very foundation of a country is tyranny, everything else is a lie created to cover up this fact."The culture tells me to be ashamed of my disability.""Since when have you done what the culture says?""Since never."~Passage form the book Tuesdays with Morrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted December 5, 2009 Report Share Posted December 5, 2009 No, we do not fear them. We, as the people, have nothing to fear if we have nothing to hide. The government fears us. That is why you do not pay upwards of half your income to the government. That is why their can be an 'illusion' of democracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caine Ghest Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 The best kind of Government is one that is close enough to anarchy without falling into it. A Republic is just that form of Government. At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished, asked him directly: "Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin.- A Republic, If You Can Keep It America started as a Republic, we shifted to a Democracy over the course of the years. We are sliding left on the scale of Government. We have gone from next to Anarchy to towards slightly before the mid point and currently we are heading towards Socialism or Communism, which is closer to Tyranny. We have let the Government get away with slowly bringing us towards Tyranny for far to long. The people have lost most of their power and now letting the Government take care of them from Cradle to Grave, which is not what the Founding Fathers wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Clearly you don't realise what anarchy is No government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 The Founding fathers? All the Founding fathers wanted was to not have to pay the tax that Britain was putting on them. They wern't looking towards the future, otherwise they wouldn't have made it possible for the Constitution to be amended. Government is a joke, there is no best type of Government. The best thing for the people is to decend into anarchy, in such a state the government is abolished and people are free to choose how they live. "It is said that Democracy is the worst form of Government, except for all the others that have tried."~Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Anarchy is what formed democracy. Originally, the world was anarchy. Clearly it is not now (to some extent). This leads me to believe that anarchy is bad for our world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Anarchy is no Government. Think of all the problems Government has caused. Starvation, War, Oppression, Segregation, etc. If there was no government, then these problems would either be lessened, or eliminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Make Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 But don't we depend on the government? Who pays us? Who tries to limit roberies and such? With people free to choose how they live and no government, who is there to pay the workers that build the foundation of our society? Who is there to stop drug trades and theft? This is human nature: to want more. What form of defense would we have without the gov??? I'm not saying the government is awesome, but don't we sorta need it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caine Ghest Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 5000 Year Leap... Read it and educate yourselves. The Founding Fathers made it so that the Constitution could be amended should something they couldn't see arise it could be reworded to make said thing viable, while at the time it was a great idea, like everything humans mess it up. Alright time for a topic shift, perhaps something a little more light-hearted this time, any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Anarchy is no Government. Think of all the problems Government has caused. Starvation' date=' War, Oppression, Segregation, etc. If there was no government, then these problems would either be lessened, or eliminated.[/quote'] Because starvation wouldn't occur if we just switched to anarchy? Mate, be realistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caine Ghest Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Anarchy becomes Social Darwinism at work, only the strong will survive, but without a doubt someone will try to take control and as a result there will always be more violence towards that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 How about something fourm related. Like How Moderators should act compared to how they do act? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caine Ghest Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Talk about a ban hammer if we bring that up... What about what should and should not be considered a "Spamhole"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 SimpleSpamhole = 95% of posts are totally unrelated to thread theme. Not Spamhole = 95% of posts relate to or stem from the tread theme or topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caine Ghest Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 So the top one would be a certain group supporting a Thunder Rat... And the one below is one that was actively fighting against an unwritten rule... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 @CaineI know where this is going.Actually The followers of the Electric Rodent haven't reched Spamhole yet. I'd say 89% of their posts are spam, and they are getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I take it we're talking about what a new topic should be? If not, ignore this:New Topic: What form of government is best, and what improvements would you make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caine Ghest Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Sorry DMG only Lulu and myself can decide the thread topics... @LuluI see, but wouldn't that mean they should have been locked instead of the other thread? Topic= Effective ways to survive a Zombie Apocalypse. Light-hearted and fun, I think will be a great breather topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Ok Just now noticed that I'm sub-leader (cool)Easiest way to survive a Zombie Apocolypse:Go back in time using the random phone booth that travels through time and kill the CEO of Umbrella Corp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurashiDragon Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 That's one form of Tyranny. We really should get back on topic though. Hide underground until you can find a means to really kill off the threat. That's really one way to answer most Physical World problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caine Ghest Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Who is to say it is umbrella corp, it could be a mutation from the Swine Flu... I still think the best way is to grab some survivors and weapons and fight off the zombies as a team until your low on bullets. You always save one bullet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirit of DMG Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Run up-hill and shoot them in the head with a flame thrower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sploda Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 OR we could hop onboard a Spaceship and fly to Alpha Centari where we create a new home for ourselves and history will begin anew. Question: How is this a debate? This seems more like a discussion, a debate is meant to be serious and to prove a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurashiDragon Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Zombies are undead and therefore will not die by regular means would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caine Ghest Posted December 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Why the head? A flame thrower can work if it hits anything. Not to mention the Zombies that would come from behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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