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Something has been bugging me as of late. Everyone is saying how good Vayu is being able to get you any Blackwing Synchro out easily. But I'm just not seeing it.

 

Armed Wing is fine seeing as how there are plenty of level 4 Blackwings for the level 1 Vayu but Armed Wing isn't very good. Plus it's effect will be negated.

 

Armored Master is where it starts to get at me. Everyone is saying that Elphin the Raven is a bad card and should not be run in Vayu Turbo. But that's the only card allowing Vayu to get him out.

 

And as for Silverwind the Ascendant, you would have already needed to have used and let your Armored Master die.

 

Seriously, can someone tell me why Vayu is so good?

 

And to make this legal...I guess discuss Vayu Turbo decks and what tech could make them even faster.

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Armed Wing is LV6 so it's Sirocco + Vayu

 

lol, just woke up so I was seeing 5 stars. But still, that's only 1 card allowing for the making of Armed Master. And then there's only 1 card allowing for Armored Master. And only 1 card allowing for Silverwind the Ascendant. So, what's so good about wasting cards on Armed Wing just to let it die to Vayu into Armored Master? And so good about wasting cards on Armored Master just to let it die to Vayu into Silverwind the Ascendant? As you mentioned, doing so in a Vayu Oppression deck would be the only place this is any good. And then it's a -2 at best either way.

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Vayu > God.

 

But it only works with 4 specific cards. 1 of which isn't run in that deck. And 2 of which are Synchros meaning you would have already had to waste card advantage in the first place.

 

EDIT: AND to make room for Armed Wings in your Extra Deck when you could fill it with better cards.

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And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

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And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

Sometimes I get the feeling that I'm doing card advantage calculations in Z and everyone else is using Z2. That's the only explanation I can think of for how people here seem to add 1 and 1 and end up with -2.

 

You summon Vayu and let it die. Meaning that's a -1 for card advantage. Then you use 2 monsters at the least to bring out a Blackwing Synchro which is a -1. And then you let that die which is another -1 for card advantage. That's -3 right there. Then you remove Vayu and the Synchro to bring out a Synchro, making it a -2.

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And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

Please' date=' put wrong statements in the beginning of your posts so I can stop reading earlier.

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And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

Sometimes I get the feeling that I'm doing card advantage calculations in Z and everyone else is using Z2. That's the only explanation I can think of for how people here seem to add 1 and 1 and end up with -2.

 

You summon Vayu and let it die. Meaning that's a -1 for card advantage. Then you use 2 monsters at the least to bring out a Blackwing Synchro which is a -1. And then you let that die which is another -1 for card advantage. That's -3 right there. Then you remove Vayu and the Synchro to bring out a Synchro' date=' making it a -2.

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You set vayu and Icarus it. That's a 0 or a +1 if you chain it.

Sometimes you can LV it.

You can always use Grepher and break even.

And of course with Brionac it's a -1 but who cares for card advantage when you are facing an open field and you have 2+ giant beatsticks.

The same can be done with Sirocco.

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And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

Please' date=' put wrong statements in the beginning of your posts so I can stop reading earlier.

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And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

Sometimes I get the feeling that I'm doing card advantage calculations in Z and everyone else is using Z2. That's the only explanation I can think of for how people here seem to add 1 and 1 and end up with -2.

 

You summon Vayu and let it die. Meaning that's a -1 for card advantage. Then you use 2 monsters at the least to bring out a Blackwing Synchro which is a -1. And then you let that die which is another -1 for card advantage. That's -3 right there. Then you remove Vayu and the Synchro to bring out a Synchro' date=' making it a -2.

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Ah, that's right. I forgot that the best way to fill the Graveyard is to Summon monsters and then have them sit around doing nothing until they get run over.

 

Incidentally, I hear Breaker is a +0 because you Summon him and blow up a s/t, which is a +1, but then you let him die, which is a -1.

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And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

Please' date=' put wrong statements in the beginning of your posts so I can stop reading earlier.

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And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

Sometimes I get the feeling that I'm doing card advantage calculations in Z and everyone else is using Z2. That's the only explanation I can think of for how people here seem to add 1 and 1 and end up with -2.

 

You summon Vayu and let it die. Meaning that's a -1 for card advantage. Then you use 2 monsters at the least to bring out a Blackwing Synchro which is a -1. And then you let that die which is another -1 for card advantage. That's -3 right there. Then you remove Vayu and the Synchro to bring out a Synchro' date=' making it a -2.

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You set vayu and Icarus it. That's a 0 or a +1 if you chain it.

Sometimes you can LV it.

Those are variables seeing as how they could have hardly anything for LV to be used on and they could also chain to them and stop the moves turning them back into negs. But good point. >_>

You can always use Grepher and break even.

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And of course with Brionac it's a -1 but who cares for card advantage when you are facing an open field and you have 2+ giant beatsticks.

No argument there. :D

The same can be done with Sirocco.

And what of the Synchros? Most of those listings don't help there.

 

And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

Please' date=' put wrong statements in the beginning of your posts so I can stop reading earlier.

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And then it's a -2 at best either way.

 

Sometimes I get the feeling that I'm doing card advantage calculations in Z and everyone else is using Z2. That's the only explanation I can think of for how people here seem to add 1 and 1 and end up with -2.

 

You summon Vayu and let it die. Meaning that's a -1 for card advantage. Then you use 2 monsters at the least to bring out a Blackwing Synchro which is a -1. And then you let that die which is another -1 for card advantage. That's -3 right there. Then you remove Vayu and the Synchro to bring out a Synchro' date=' making it a -2.

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Ah, that's right. I forgot that the best way to fill the Graveyard is to Summon monsters and then have them sit around doing nothing until they get run over.

 

Incidentally, I hear Breaker is a +0 because you Summon him and blow up a s/t, which is a +1, but then you let him die, which is a -1.

 

Not the same concept.

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Vayu is a freakin' beast. but not really any sort of banworthy, as you stated, you needz the blackwings. Vayu Oppression is way-hay-hayyyyyy better than Turbo.

 

 

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TBQH' date=' I don't see the point in Vayu either.

It's inferior to the rest of the Blackwing Tuners.

The only way i could see it working is with Armour Master, Silverwind and Burial from a Differeent Dimension.

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I only agree with you for the fact that Vayu must be used for a Blackwing Synchro and then you can only use 1 non-tuner to mix with it limiting your options. I only see Vayu as a set-up for bringing out Armed Wing and then to bring out a level 2 tuner to Synchro into Stardust Dragon or something like that.

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