Kocrow17 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 The title says what I'm looking for. So far I have three ideas: 1. Crystal Beasts (Running 3 Sapphire Pegasus, 3 Cobalt Eagle, 3 Rare Value and 3 Icarus Attacks). Use Eagle as Icarus food and send them to your S/T Zone via Pegasus. Then Rare Value. The problems? It slows down the deck drastically and, well, Crystal Beasts aren't the greatest. Not to mention (I have no clue why) Pegasus is NOT a winged beast. 2. Trade-In (Running 3 Simorgh, Bird of Ancestry and 3 Trade-In). Simple enough. But a lack of Lv8 monsters could result in dead draws? 3. [REMOVED. FAIL ON MY PART.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Leaf Economics sound like lulz. But run more Level 8's (around 6) for a trade-in engine, which is probably the best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocrow17 Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Which other LV8s would work best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Level 8 DHeroes, then you can run Allure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Skull Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 And destiny draw^^Using level 8 D-Heros you can run Allure, Trade-in and Destiny Draw^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Destiny Hero Malicious Then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 And destiny draw^^Using level 8 D-Heros you can run Allure' date=' Trade-in and Destiny Draw^^[/quote'] and Dark Simorgh seeing as Harpies are wind. I know Quite a good harpie/simorgh build, I could PM it to you if you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Which other LV8s would work best? Dark Simorgh. NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Which other LV8s would work best? Dark Simorgh. NOW. You failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Option 1 seems bad, since there are only two WIND Gem Beasts, and the only one that's a Winged Beast is Cobalt Eagle - the single worst Gem Beast of the lot. Not to mention that Rare Value is dead unless you've already put out two Gems. Option 2 seems like a good place to start, but 3 Trade-In with only 3 Level 8's isn't the way to go. Option 3 doesn't work. Spell Economics gets around the 2000 Life Point cost, but not the 9000 Life Point activation condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Which other LV8s would work best? Dark Simorgh. NOW. You failed. He's level 7? Well that sucks. >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otakon Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 I use Reckless Greed with the help of Golden Sarcophagus.It can be a bit slow but it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Dark Nephtys. Though at a certain critical point you'll realize you're not running a Harpie Beatdown deck, but rather running some dark... Winged Beast... Level 8... thing, with 3 Harpie Ladies and 3 Harpie Queens teched in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Not to mention (I have no clue why) Pegasus is NOT a winged beast. Pegasus is still a horse' date=' but with wings.The way Konami has Winged-Beast set up, is they have to be either:1- An actual bird2- A half-bird/tengu-like 'thing'3- Any sort of flying creature, that gratly resembles a bird. A horse with wings, doesnt fit into any of those. Leaf Economics sound like lulz.Aside from it bieng situational, it actually seems like a pretty lulzy Draw Engine. Especially if you draw into multiple copies of Ancient Leaf. Winged Beast is Cobalt Eagle - the single worst Gem Beast of the lot.If you look at it' date=' from a stratigical(w/e) point of view, Cobalt Eagle isnt [i']THAT[/i] bad.It lets you recycle Saphire Pegasus, at the cost of your Draw Phase. It effectivley turns your draw phase, into Crystal-Beast-specific search-engine sort of thing. inb4Crabrepliesbackandliteralythrowsawtfbombonmypost He's level 7? Well that sucks. >.<Dark Simorgh would be broken as a level 8.Plus, he has to stay at 7 in order to match his origional counterpart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Winged Beast is Cobalt Eagle - the single worst Gem Beast of the lot.If you look at it' date=' from a stratigical(w/e) point of view, Cobalt Eagle isnt [i']THAT[/i] bad.It lets you recycle Saphire Pegasus, at the cost of your Draw Phase. It effectivley turns your draw phase, into Crystal-Beast-specific search-engine sort of thing. inb4Crabrepliesbackandliteralythrowsawtfbombonmypost And the fact that you can recycle Pegasus even from the s/t zone makes that strat even cooler, but it's still slow :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 but it's still slow :?Which is exactly the point, why its un-used. But in something like Wc08(Wc09 would kill this), where the meta is around the same speed as that, you could get away with such combos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Winged Beast is Cobalt Eagle - the single worst Gem Beast of the lot.If you look at it' date=' from a stratigical(w/e) point of view, Cobalt Eagle isnt [i']THAT[/i] bad.It lets you recycle Saphire Pegasus, at the cost of your Draw Phase. It effectivley turns your draw phase, into Crystal-Beast-specific search-engine sort of thing. "Recycling" your Sapphire Pegasus is a horrible strategy, since you WANT it on the field or in your S/T zone, and you DON'T want your draw phase being wasted on drawing something you can't use and isn't either of your win conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Winged Beast is Cobalt Eagle - the single worst Gem Beast of the lot.If you look at it' date=' from a stratigical(w/e) point of view, Cobalt Eagle isnt [i']THAT[/i] bad.It lets you recycle Saphire Pegasus, at the cost of your Draw Phase. It effectivley turns your draw phase, into Crystal-Beast-specific search-engine sort of thing. "Recycling" your Sapphire Pegasus is a horrible strategy, since you WANT it on the field or in your S/T zone, and you DON'T want your draw phase being wasted on drawing something you can't use and isn't either of your win conditions. This. Not to mention that Crystal Promise recycles Sapphire Pegasus properly by Special Summoning it. Cobalt Eagle is pretty much unilaterally the worst Gem Beast, and considering that Amber Mammoth is practically a vanilla beatstick and Emerald Tortoise is practically a vanilla wall, that's pretty terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Crystal Beast Cobalt Eagle(Level 4/WIND/1400/800)[Winged-Beast / Effect]You can destroy this face-up card to return 1 card on the field to the top of its owner's Deck. If this card is destroyed while it is in a Monster Card Zone, you can place it face-up in your Spell & Trap Card Zone as a Continuous Spell Card, instead of sending it to the Graveyard. It couldn't be any worse than what we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 inb4 Crab replies back and literaly throws a wtfbomb on my postKnew it. Winged Beast is Cobalt Eagle - the single worst Gem Beast of the lot.If you look at it' date=' from a stratigical(w/e) point of view, Cobalt Eagle isnt [i']THAT[/i] bad.It lets you recycle Saphire Pegasus, at the cost of your Draw Phase. It effectivley turns your draw phase, into Crystal-Beast-specific search-engine sort of thing. "Recycling" your Sapphire Pegasus is a horrible strategy, since you WANT it on the field or in your S/T zone, and you DON'T want your draw phase being wasted on drawing something you can't use and isn't either of your win conditions. This. Not to mention that Crystal Promise recycles Sapphire Pegasus properly by Special Summoning it. Cobalt Eagle is pretty much unilaterally the worst Gem Beast, and considering that Amber Mammoth is practically a vanilla beatstick and Emerald Tortoise is practically a vanilla wall, that's pretty terrible.Pretty much :/But I never really said it was something meta-game.I only really said it was usable in Wc08, since the meta on that game is about the same speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Corps Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Isn't Ancient Leaf useless in the first place if you don't have above 9000 LP? From what I read Economics only negates you paying the 2K, the base LP requirement seems more like a condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kocrow17 Posted November 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yeah, the whole 9000 LP thing was a fail on my part. I removed the combo. Thanks for the advice, everyone. I'll look more into Allure of Darkness and Trade-In. Though at a certain critical point you'll realize you're not running a Harpie Beatdown deck, but rather running some dark... Winged Beast... Level 8... thing, with 3 Harpie Ladies and 3 Harpie Queens teched in. I can see this happening. I recall trying to make a Harpie Monarch deck a while ago (Before Raiza's release, I believe.). The end result was a Monarch Deck with 3 copies of Harpie Lady 1... T_T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Dahlia Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Dark simorgh, hand/card des. /topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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