No Returning Noobs!

[~Oleon~]

Hello, I'm Oleon, bringing you a problem on YCM. Recently I have met up with a foul-mouthed fool called MS JUSTACE. Who had put in inappropriate language inside his thread. So I reported it and he got banned.

Now here's the problem. Once their banned they make a new account and come back with either a similar or different name. For example:

 

MS JUSTACE got banned.

Turned into:

MR JUSTACE.

 

When I PMed him saying that he came back after being banned, he sent me an extremely rude message. So, the point of this thread is an idea of how banned noobs can't recreate accounts.

 

When you go to register as a new member, you could put in a few more things.

This is the things I mean:

 

A box where you write in the name of a previous account and it's password. And if that account is banned, it will not let you make an account. And if you try to hack into somebodys account by using their password to make a new one, it will check your recent activities and find if you have used that account in a fortnight. If you havn't it won't let you do that, stopping noobs from creating new accounts to avenge their previous ones.

 

This might be alot of work to do, but since my previous encounter, I stand firm on this. YCM has over 500 members, so why need more that will just cause abruption and abuse? This means no more members can join unless they have previous accounts, but do we REALLY need more? Honestly?

 

Think about this, and please post your comments on it. Even if they are negative comments, and I will think of a way on how to improve the idea and reinforce it.

 

~Oleon

[ihop]

It's called an IP ban.

They do exist, you know.

[Windowlicker]

YCM has over 500 300' date='000 members.

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Fix'd.

 

It's called an IP ban.

They do exist' date=' you know.

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While handy, IP bans can only be implemented on 1 IP adress.

Meaning someone could just use a different computer or a different internet hub.

 

So yeah, if possible, I support.

[~Oleon~]

Thanks, and woah! I had no clue there was over 300 THOUSAND MEMBERS!

1 supporting.

[Dranzer]

Support.If they want to make fake cards that much download yu-gi-oh card creator.

[ihop]

It actually has over 400000 now.

[~Oleon~]

Wow...

This is what I mean, we have enough members to start a YCM world now. We can stop noobs from fighting against us.

[Brushfire]

Won't work, period. For starters, they do it on purpose, so why would they admit to them having a previous username? Secondly, you can't IP ban them because they proxy.

[~Oleon~]

K, that's two supporters so far.

[Guest JoshIcy]

It's called an IP ban.

They do exist' date=' you know.

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While handy, IP bans can only be implemented on 1 IP adress.

 

Actually... We can ban an entire range of IPs, as well as a region. But doing so will make many potential users affected and it just isn't practical. Also, Proxies don't use region based IPs to my knowledge, so that would also be ineffective.

[~Oleon~]

Oh my god. I can't believe it. Icyblue, you are my idol on here, and to post in my thread, thats great in itself. Also, I really don't want to sound like a noob or something, but... what a proxy?

[War Kittens]

a proxy is a common term used for a website or program that allows users to get around filters such as websense. I don't know if it works on IP bans.

 

On IP bans: I'm currently taking a networking class and because of that I think that IP bans are actually very ineffective. Whenever someone goes to the internet, their computer sends out a request for an IP address to their ISP(internet service provider for those who don't know). the ISP then sends back an IP address for them to use. This IP address expires and is sent back to the pool of loan IPs commonly after a period of 24 hours. Thus, a person who has thier IP address banned one day can easily just restart thier computer and get a new one from the ISP.

 

Also, if this idea to ban all new members had been implemented some 6 months ago, I would've never been able to become a member. Just because we have a lot of members now doesn't mean that we need to exclude everyone else who doens't currently have an account.

 

1 against.

[Brushfire]

It's called an IP ban.

They do exist' date=' you know.

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While handy, IP bans can only be implemented on 1 IP adress.

 

Actually... We can ban an entire range of IPs, as well as a region. But doing so will make many potential users affected and it just isn't practical. Also, Proxies don't use region based IPs to my knowledge, so that would also be ineffective.

 

You can ban a region? Isn't that like... racist? Anyway, proxies do use region-based IP's. Go onto any proxy index site and most will have the region in brackets next to it (usually US though). There's honestly no way to stop it, which is why so many sites get raided. This is pointless.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Something that is used to replace your IP, for the sake of gaining access to a site or hiding who you are and where you are from. As an IP will be able to tell me your Internet Service Provider and General Address.

[Brushfire]

Something that is used to replace your IP' date=' for the sake of gaining access to a site or hiding who you are and where you are from. As an IP will be able to tell me your Internet Service Provider and General Address.

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Who was that directed at? I- of course, already knew all of that.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Oh my god. I can't believe it. Icyblue' date=' you are my idol on here, and to post in my thread, thats great in itself. Also, I really don't want to sound like a noob or something, but... [b']what a proxy?[/b]

Something that is used to replace your IP' date=' for the sake of gaining access to a site or hiding who you are and where you are from. As an IP will be able to tell me your Internet Service Provider and General Address.

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Something that is used to replace your IP' date=' for the sake of gaining access to a site or hiding who you are and where you are from. As an IP will be able to tell me your Internet Service Provider and General Address.

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Who was that directed at? I- of course, already knew all of that.

 

Does that help?

[War Kittens]

Hey, Icyblue, I have a question. Do you know how an IP ban works? In my previous post I stated how most computers get an IP address and why I don't think that IP bans are truly that effective. Do you think you could shed some light on this for me?

[Brushfire]

Hey' date=' Icyblue, I have a question. Do you know how an IP ban works? In my previous post I stated how most computers get an IP address and why I don't think that IP bans are truly that effective. Do you think you could shed some light on this for me?

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Couldn't help answering this myself. An IP ban stops the IP specified from accessing the site. Yeah, people can change their IP easily making it ineffective. They could also use a proxy site (a site that makes your IP anonymous and it uses a default one of theirs instead) to avoid it also. In other words, if someone wants to raid your site then you have no real defence then to keep banning them and contacting the police/FBI about it.

[War Kittens]

Thanks for that, Brushfire. Hmmmm...Y'know, if they could somehow block the MAC address from a computer, then that would probably work better. I mean, when an IP ban happens, then that IP and that MAC go hand-in-hand, so since the only way to change your MAC address is to change the hardware from the computer itself...

[Guest JoshIcy]

Hey' date=' Icyblue, I have a question. Do you know how an IP ban works? In my previous post I stated how most computers get an IP address and why I don't think that IP bans are truly that effective. Do you think you could shed some light on this for me?

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Your ISP may give you 2 kinds of IPs.

 

Static IP, which is non-changeable and often used in a Home. This is easier, as you won't need multiple computer set-ups, and having to touch your LAN etc connections. Even when you're using multiple Computers it's still much better since it's all one group.

 

Or a Dynamic IP. Which is a changeable IP, which can be configured in your own computer by changing certain variables in the IP display thing. This is commonly used for businesses as each computer generally has a different purpose/person running it, rather than just you. But if your home has a Dynamic IP, you basically have 255 different IP addresses (this is the limit per range of IPs to my knowledge). But seeing as MOST homes, do not have this; and your job will limit you to only the one given to you by the boss. It's extremely unlikely to see it.

[Brushfire]

That would stop others using that ISP from accessing the site, too. I think. I'm not really too familiar with MAC addresses, but I know there is no way to block a MAC address on MyBB, phpBB, vBulletin or IPB (having administrated all of them), so I'm guessing there's a reason for that- whether it be inability or because it would have a negative effect on a bigger scale.

[War Kittens]

Hey' date=' Icyblue, I have a question. Do you know how an IP ban works? In my previous post I stated how most computers get an IP address and why I don't think that IP bans are truly that effective. Do you think you could shed some light on this for me?

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Your ISP may give you 2 kinds of IPs.

 

Static IP, which is non-changeable and often used in a Home. This is easier, as you won't need multiple computer set-ups, and having to touch your LAN etc connections. Even when you're using multiple Computers it's still much better since it's all one group.

 

Or a Dynamic IP. Which is a changeable IP, which can be configured in your own computer by changing certain variables in the IP display thing. This is commonly used for businesses as each computer generally has a different purpose/person running it, rather than just you. But if your home has a Dynamic IP, you basically have 255 different IP addresses (this is the limit per range of IPs to my knowledge). But seeing as MOST homes, do not have this; and your job will limit you to only the one given to you by the boss. It's extremely unlikely to see it.

 

Actually, the Static IP is set by the end user themselves, so they can easily change their Static IP. And yes Dynamic IP is set by the ISP and is actually the most common of the two for pretty much everyone, but there are only 254 IP addresses that can be used. Static IP is used with Private IP addresses and is useful when setting up Private networks.

 

with x being somewhere between 0 and 255

x.x.x.0 can't be used and neither can x.x.x.255. anything between is pretty much fair game.

[Guest JoshIcy]

That would stop others using that ISP from accessing the site' date=' too. I think. I'm not really too familiar with MAC addresses, but I know there is no way to block a MAC address on MyBB, phpBB, vBulletin or IPB (having administrated all of them), so I'm guessing there's a reason for that- whether it be inability or because it would have a negative effect on a bigger scale.

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Probably because Mac Addresses aren't limited to a single computer (which IMO is a bad thing).

[Brushfire]

Hey' date=' Icyblue, I have a question. Do you know how an IP ban works? In my previous post I stated how most computers get an IP address and why I don't think that IP bans are truly that effective. Do you think you could shed some light on this for me?

[/quote']

 

Your ISP may give you 2 kinds of IPs.

 

Static IP, which is non-changeable and often used in a Home. This is easier, as you won't need multiple computer set-ups, and having to touch your LAN etc connections. Even when you're using multiple Computers it's still much better since it's all one group.

 

Or a Dynamic IP. Which is a changeable IP, which can be configured in your own computer by changing certain variables in the IP display thing. This is commonly used for businesses as each computer generally has a different purpose/person running it, rather than just you. But if your home has a Dynamic IP, you basically have 255 different IP addresses (this is the limit per range of IPs to my knowledge). But seeing as MOST homes, do not have this; and your job will limit you to only the one given to you by the boss. It's extremely unlikely to see it.

 

Actually, the Static IP is set by the end user themselves, so they can easily change their Static IP. And yes Dynamic IP is set by the ISP and is actually the most common of the two for pretty much everyone, but there are only 254 IP addresses that can be used. Static IP is used with Private IP addresses and is useful when setting up Private networks.

 

with x being somewhere between 0 and 255

x.x.x.0 can't be used and neither can x.x.x.255. anything between is pretty much fair game.

 

When did someone smart get on YCM? Welcome to the site, dude.

You've got my welcoming now that you've proved that you're a good member. ;)

 

That would stop others using that ISP from accessing the site' date=' too. I think. I'm not really too familiar with MAC addresses, but I know there is no way to block a MAC address on MyBB, phpBB, vBulletin or IPB (having administrated all of them), so I'm guessing there's a reason for that- whether it be inability or because it would have a negative effect on a bigger scale.

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Probably because Mac Addresses aren't limited to a single computer (which IMO is a bad thing).

 

IP's aren't limited to a single computer either- they're used throughout the household.

[Guest JoshIcy]

^: Didn't catch the generality.