Learn your place, Icy

[Yugiohrulez!]

And I really do respect that fact.

 

But this is not nessacary. We should not argue our own opinions.

[♥Łövëły-Ċħän♥]

Agreed.

[Yugiohrulez!]

You know what, that was very mature. you just earned a +rep.

[Muluck]

There is an easy solution to all your problems. Change the rules, and enforce them on everyone.

 

First Step - Change the Rules:

 

Each post in each of the following CC Forums:

 

• Realistic Cards
  
• Pop Culture Cards
  
• Any Other Cards
  
• Written Cards
  

 

Must contain the following three requirements:

 

• You must provide the Author of the Thread with a reason as to why his/her card(s) have errors. Whether it be with OCG, or Playability.
  
• You must provide the Author of the Thread with an explanation of how to fix these problem(s).
  
• Your post(s) cannot be less then two complete sentences.
  

 

If the post(s) venture off those three requirements, in anyway the post(s) will be deleted. If said action(s) continue the member is warned. If the member is banned due to a warning breaking these rules, his or her next offense will be a ban consisting of X Amount of Days. If further action is required, said member will be banned indefinately.

 

You want members to follow rules? Enforce the rules on everyone, no leniency. You have to show that no member get's special treatment, even if it is your best bud. You have to show that no member get's cruel or unusual punishment, even if you loath the person to no end.

 

 

Take what I said into consideration. Use it, don't use it, it doesn't matter to me. Your rules in Custom Cards are too lenient, and far from equal. This is why you are having problems keeping people under control, this is why you are having problems with this ragnorok person.

[Junk Raver]

There is an easy solution to all your problems. Change the rules' date=' and enforce them on everyone.

 

[i']First Step - Change the Rules:

 

Each post in each of the following CC Forums:

 

• Realistic Cards
  
• Pop Culture Cards
  
• Any Other Cards
  
• Written Cards
  

 

Must contain the following three requirements:

 

• You must provide the Author of the Thread with a reason as to why his/her card(s) have errors. Whether it be with OCG, or Playability.
  
• You must provide the Author of the Thread with an explanation of how to fix these problem(s).
  
• Your post(s) cannot be less then two complete sentences.
  

 

If the post(s) venture off those three requirements, in anyway the post(s) will be deleted. If said action(s) continue the member is warned. If the member is banned due to a warning breaking these rules, his or her next offense will be a ban consisting of X Amount of Days. If further action is required, said member will be banned indefinately.[/i]

 

You want members to follow rules? Enforce the rules on everyone, no leniency. You have to show that no member get's special treatment, even if it is your best bud. You have to show that no member get's cruel or unusual punishment, even if you loath the person to no end.

 

 

Take what I said into consideration. Use it, don't use it, it doesn't matter to me. Your rules in Custom Cards are too lenient, and far from equal. This is why you are having problems keeping people under control, this is why you are having problems with this ragnorok person.

 

 

 

I support said quoted ideas, but im afraid i can do nothing about it, afterall, im not allowed to do anything revolutionary in R-Cards anymore.

[NeoDemonX]

Muluck I agreed with and it looks like that the Mods agreed with you too

[Muluck]

There is an easy solution to all your problems. Change the rules' date=' and enforce them on everyone.

 

[i']First Step - Change the Rules:

 

Each post in each of the following CC Forums:

 

• Realistic Cards
  
• Pop Culture Cards
  
• Any Other Cards
  
• Written Cards
  

 

Must contain the following three requirements:

 

• You must provide the Author of the Thread with a reason as to why his/her card(s) have errors. Whether it be with OCG, or Playability.
  
• You must provide the Author of the Thread with an explanation of how to fix these problem(s).
  
• Your post(s) cannot be less then two complete sentences.
  

 

If the post(s) venture off those three requirements, in anyway the post(s) will be deleted. If said action(s) continue the member is warned. If the member is banned due to a warning breaking these rules, his or her next offense will be a ban consisting of X Amount of Days. If further action is required, said member will be banned indefinately.[/i]

 

You want members to follow rules? Enforce the rules on everyone, no leniency. You have to show that no member get's special treatment, even if it is your best bud. You have to show that no member get's cruel or unusual punishment, even if you loath the person to no end.

 

 

Take what I said into consideration. Use it, don't use it, it doesn't matter to me. Your rules in Custom Cards are too lenient, and far from equal. This is why you are having problems keeping people under control, this is why you are having problems with this ragnorok person.

 

 

 

I support said quoted ideas, but im afraid i can do nothing about it, afterall, im not allowed to do anything revolutionary in R-Cards anymore.

 

If I am not mistaken the forums that the Forum Team Page says you cover is Custom Cards, is it not?

If Icyblue has say in this matter, shouldn't you? You are both Super Moderators, therefore you each have equivalent power in the Ruling's of Custom Cards.

[Junk Raver]

Indeed that is the case, but after talking to icyblue earlier, it would appear im not allowed to alter the rules or even make a sticky thread, or improve the section in anyway.

[Yugiohrulez!]

I hope you all know that Icy is online.

 

Just sayin.

[Charizard]

Indeed that is the case' date=' but after talking to icyblue earlier, it would appear im not allowed to alter the rules or even make a sticky thread, or improve the section in anyway.

[/quote']

 

Well thats unfair, you both should have equivalent control over custom cards. Your both super moderators to be exact.

[Junk Raver]

I hope you all know that Icy is online.

 

Just sayin.

 

Im assuming we do all have eyeballs, so we know.

[NeoDemonX]

So what section are propose to Mod now Junk

[Necro Pheonix]

I dont know what the problem with ragnarok is, as in all of the threads i've seen him post in, he's been nothing but helpfull. But, i also belive Icy didnt abuse his power, he must of had a reason. I find Icy to be a great person, and ragnarok as well. I support ragnarok, but i am not against Icy.

[Muluck]

Indeed that is the case' date=' but after talking to icyblue earlier, it would appear im not allowed to alter the rules or even make a sticky thread, or improve the section in anyway.

[/quote']

 

Well thats unfair, you both should have equivalent control over custom cards. Your both super moderators to be exact.

 

Being a Moderator, beng a Super Moderator is not a Sole Proprietorship. It is a Communiative Aspect, and with such all have equal say in their appropriate section. No one has more power over someone else, unless that person is the Owner(s) themselve.

[Junk Raver]

Well i can still Mod R-cards, just not redo the rules or make stickys or help threads.

 

Alot changes when you are inactive for awhile. All my previous rule threads, help threads, and fun threads were replaced and forgotton.

 

Im sure members loved it when R-cards was:

 

 

Card Concept Thread - A Thread containing unique card concepts people had made, so as to show others, inspire others and stop others claiming used ideas.

 

Card Archive Thread - A Thread containing links to Members personal card archives, so it was easy to track down and see a members full range of cards.

 

OCG / Grammar Thread - A Large Thread containing correct OCG & Card Grammar, an easy place to point people in the direction of, so as to improve on simple mistakes and make better card makers.

 

Rules - stricter back then, and more enforced.

 

 

 

And i always had a 5th thread, a community card making project. It is a shame i cant look after that section again.

[Muluck]

It seems leadership has taken on a competely different demeanor in this situation.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Indeed that is the case' date=' but after talking to icyblue earlier, it would appear im not allowed to alter the rules or even make a sticky thread, or improve the section in anyway.

[/quote']

 

I agreed to a couple of your rules o_O... Including the posting format thing, provided it was relaxed.

[Junk Raver]

I do not remember seeing the word yes for anything i suggested, just either ' i will think about it', ' i dont want anymore stickys' etc.

 

Thats the problem icy, it wont be relaxed, relaxing rules are not enforced ones and therefore, dont work.

[Icy]

I do not remember seeing the word yes for anything i suggested' date=' just either ' i will think about it', ' i dont want anymore stickys' etc.

 

Thats the problem icy, it wont be relaxed, relaxing rules are not enforced ones and therefore, dont work.

[/quote']

 

Relaxed, as in they get until Christmas to get their act straight (that's about a month; enough for newbies as well).

Akin to the Misc rules. But it will be dealt with like a normal rule.

 

And usually, unless I say no. I agree with it... Outright yes is... I dunno.

And the stickies thing... Uugh, keep that space for discussion stuff. Don't trophy members for ideas that are no better than anothers.

[Muluck]

Indeed that is the case' date=' but after talking to icyblue earlier, it would appear im not allowed to alter the rules or even make a sticky thread, or improve the section in anyway.

[/quote']

 

I agreed to a couple of your rules o_O... Including the posting format thing, provided it was relaxed.

 

May I provide a litte story?

 

You kill a man and tell the officer you killed him because he killed your wife.

Do you think the officer is going to be lenient?

 

Yes I know, Real Life situation over an Internet Forum. But if you evade your taxes because you don't have money, you still have to pay the Government money.

The same principle needs to apply on this forum, otherwise you will have no control. You have no control.

Your're giving them an inch, and they're taking a mile.

[Icy]

Extreme Ineffective example is Ineffective.

[Muluck]

Extreme Ineffective example is Ineffective.

 

I wasn't giving an example for an effect' date=' I was giving an example for a reason.

 

The fact that you respond to a member like an immature member is even more convncing that what Raver said is true.

 

Right now your letting people slide, while punishing others whom you have some how decided not to let slide. Right now your forum is out of order. The only way to fix this is to actually enforce rules that apply to everyone, for everything, on the spot being dealt with swift action.

 

Just for clerification, I am not on the [i']"Learn You place Icy"[/i] side, I am and will remain, nuetral. If you can't accept that, then I am sorry.

[Icy]

Extreme Ineffective example is Ineffective.

 

I wasn't giving an example for an effect' date=' I was giving an example for a reason.

 

The fact that you respond to a member like an immature member is even more convncing that what Raver said is true.

 

Right now your letting people slide, while punishing others whom you have some how decided not to let slide. Right now your forum is out of order. The only way to fix this is to actually enforce rules that apply to everyone, for everything, on the spot being dealt with swift action.

[/quote']

 

Like ideas, I treat each thread as a new one. Not so much as members.

 

And each idea is just as valuable as the next, none better than the next. Members just happen to be that medium in which requires these ideas to be communicated. Just as I do with making my cards, I expect them to do the same. Which is no bad thing...

 

Tomorrow, me and Raver will finalize these rules. Then send them over to Hunter and Browarod. After that, give or take a few tweaks. They will be implemented by Friday (I might be gone tomorrow anyway)...

[Muluck]

Extreme Ineffective example is Ineffective.

 

I wasn't giving an example for an effect' date=' I was giving an example for a reason.

 

The fact that you respond to a member like an immature member is even more convncing that what Raver said is true.

 

Right now your letting people slide, while punishing others whom you have some how decided not to let slide. Right now your forum is out of order. The only way to fix this is to actually enforce rules that apply to everyone, for everything, on the spot being dealt with swift action.

[/quote']

 

Like ideas, I treat each thread as a new one. Not so much as members.

 

And each idea is just as valuable as the next, none better than the next. Members just happen to be that medium in which requires these ideas to be communicated. Just as I do with making my cards, I expect them to do the same. Which is no bad thing...

 

Tomorrow, me and Raver will finalize these rules. Then send them over to Hunter and Browarod. After that, give or take a few tweaks. They will be implemented by Friday (I might be gone tomorrow anyway)...

 

One last thing.

You can't force a crowd to conform to what you believe in, or force them to do things you way. You have to set a point to which everyone, and I do mean everyone can follow. Just becaus you like to make your cards a certain way, does not qualify you to force everyone else to make them this way. I cannot stress the importants of equal punishment when it comes to gaining order.

If two people break the same rules they both should get the same punishment, no other way should this be done.

 

But I shall wait until you and your caleagues have workd out the final rules.

[Mister Sir]

OP: Suck it up. If you're so irritated about rag being banned for flooding(Which he clearly does), obviously you have too much time on your hands and care way too much about this place.