Shradow Posted October 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 He can shoot sonic waves from his sword, he could kill Darth Vader from a couple dozen yards away. Darth can attack from afar with the force, but still, he's not the only one with long range attacks. Not only was his sword blessed by the Goddess, it was forged by the other Goddess, a lightsaber would have an incredibly hard time cutting through it. Plus, the Black Knight has can teleport. Darth Vader can't teleport. And I didn't mean Darth Vader bringing in the Death Star or his Clone Trooper army or anything like that. If that was the case, BK could bring in Begnion's and Daein's entire armies (being the General of two countries' armies) and his buddy Sephiran who could blow up the Death Star with his magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 He can shoot sonic waves from his sword' date=' he could kill Darth Vader from a couple dozen yards away. Darth can attack from afar with the force, but still, he's not the only one with long range attacks. Not only was his sword blessed by the Goddess, it was forged by the other Goddess, a lightsaber would have an incredibly hard time cutting through it. Plus, the Black Knight has can teleport. Darth Vader can't teleport. And I didn't mean Darth Vader bringing in the Death Star or his Clone Trooper army or anything like that. If that was the case, BK could bring in Begnion's and Daein's entire armies (being the General of two countries' armies) and his buddy Sephiran who could blow up the Death Star with his magic.[/quote'] Because armor + swords < lasers amirite? There is no accurate way to compare the effects of medieval magic on technology/the force. One could argue that using the force, DV could counteract any sort of magical assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 He can shoot sonic waves from his sword' date=' he could kill Darth Vader from a couple dozen yards away. Darth can attack from afar with the force, but still, he's not the only one with long range attacks. Not only was his sword blessed by the Goddess, it was forged by the other Goddess, a lightsaber would have an incredibly hard time cutting through it. Plus, the Black Knight has can teleport. Darth Vader can't teleport. And I didn't mean Darth Vader bringing in the Death Star or his Clone Trooper army or anything like that. If that was the case, BK could bring in Begnion's and Daein's entire armies (being the General of two countries' armies) and his buddy Sephiran who could blow up the Death Star with his magic.[/quote'] Because armor + swords < lasers amirite? There is no accurate way to compare the effects of medieval magic on technology/the force. One could argue that using the force, DV could counteract any sort of magical assault. So having the protection of a goddess doesn't count for anything? funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 He can shoot sonic waves from his sword' date=' he could kill Darth Vader from a couple dozen yards away. Darth can attack from afar with the force, but still, he's not the only one with long range attacks. Not only was his sword blessed by the Goddess, it was forged by the other Goddess, a lightsaber would have an incredibly hard time cutting through it. Plus, the Black Knight has can teleport. Darth Vader can't teleport. And I didn't mean Darth Vader bringing in the Death Star or his Clone Trooper army or anything like that. If that was the case, BK could bring in Begnion's and Daein's entire armies (being the General of two countries' armies) and his buddy Sephiran who could blow up the Death Star with his magic.[/quote'] Because armor + swords > lasers amirite? There is no accurate way to compare the effects of medieval magic on technology/the force. One could argue that using the force, DV could counteract any sort of magical assault. So having the protection of a goddess doesn't count for anything? f***. There's no way to match power between a goddess and future technology :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 He can shoot sonic waves from his sword' date=' he could kill Darth Vader from a couple dozen yards away. Darth can attack from afar with the force, but still, he's not the only one with long range attacks. Not only was his sword blessed by the Goddess, it was forged by the other Goddess, a lightsaber would have an incredibly hard time cutting through it. Plus, the Black Knight has can teleport. Darth Vader can't teleport. And I didn't mean Darth Vader bringing in the Death Star or his Clone Trooper army or anything like that. If that was the case, BK could bring in Begnion's and Daein's entire armies (being the General of two countries' armies) and his buddy Sephiran who could blow up the Death Star with his magic.[/quote'] Because armor + swords > lasers amirite? There is no accurate way to compare the effects of medieval magic on technology/the force. One could argue that using the force, DV could counteract any sort of magical assault. So having the protection of a goddess doesn't count for anything? f***. There's no way to match power between a goddess and future technology :/ Divine Powers > Technology :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think that the divine powers and technilogical advancements are on kind of a level playing field. Everyone in this arguement does know who the Black Knight is, right? You've played Radiant Dawn and been drunk on his immense power? I don't want you guys who are against him against him just because he's from medieval times. I'm pretty sure you all know who Darth Vader is, he's a little more well known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think that the divine powers and technilogical advancements are on kind of a level playing field. Everyone in this arguement does know who the Black Knight is' date=' right? You've played Radiant Dawn and been drunk on his immense power? I don't want you guys who are against him against him just because he's from medieval times. I'm pretty sure you all know who Darth Vader is, he's a little more well known.[/quote'] Eh he. I haven't played RD (no GC, dammit). But I get the general gist of his character. Problem being, "immense power" in a medieval setting does not necessarily transfer when put into a highly technological fight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think that the divine powers and technilogical advancements are on kind of a level playing field. Everyone in this arguement does know who the Black Knight is' date=' right? You've played Radiant Dawn and been drunk on his immense power? I don't want you guys who are against him against him just because he's from medieval times. I'm pretty sure you all know who Darth Vader is, he's a little more well known.[/quote'] Eh he. I haven't played RD (no GC, dammit). But I get the general gist of his character. Problem being, "immense power" in a medieval setting does not necessarily transfer when put into a highly technological fight... To put it simply, he's godmodded on a whole level. Nothing hurts him, save for weapons blessed by Ashera(goddess). And he can pretty much slaughter anyone. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think that the divine powers and technilogical advancements are on kind of a level playing field. Everyone in this arguement does know who the Black Knight is' date=' right? You've played Radiant Dawn and been drunk on his immense power? I don't want you guys who are against him against him just because he's from medieval times. I'm pretty sure you all know who Darth Vader is, he's a little more well known.[/quote'] Eh he. I haven't played RD (no GC, dammit). But I get the general gist of his character. Problem being, "immense power" in a medieval setting does not necessarily transfer when put into a highly technological fight... To put it simply, he's godmodded on a whole level. Nothing hurts him, save for weapons blessed by Ashera(goddess). And he can pretty much slaughter anyone. =/ Again, that's nothing when the tech hasn't advanced past steel weapons (or silver, if you really want to go by FE standards...). And that's him slaughtering anyone when the best combat vehicles they have are dudes on horses. Lasers and battleships are considerably more powerful than swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altαir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Black Knight, cause his epicness is epic, along with the epic song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 I think that the divine powers and technilogical advancements are on kind of a level playing field. Everyone in this arguement does know who the Black Knight is' date=' right? You've played Radiant Dawn and been drunk on his immense power? I don't want you guys who are against him against him just because he's from medieval times. I'm pretty sure you all know who Darth Vader is, he's a little more well known.[/quote'] Eh he. I haven't played RD (no GC, dammit). But I get the general gist of his character. Problem being, "immense power" in a medieval setting does not necessarily transfer when put into a highly technological fight... To put it simply, he's godmodded on a whole level. Nothing hurts him, save for weapons blessed by Ashera(goddess). And he can pretty much slaughter anyone. =/ Again, that's nothing when the tech hasn't advanced past steel weapons (or silver, if you really want to go by FE standards...). And that's him slaughtering anyone when the best combat vehicles they have are dudes on horses. Lasers and battleships are considerably more powerful than swords. Yes, but he's protected. By a goddess. That's the only thing that allows him to win, if a goddess protects him, he can swat away lasers and other weaponry with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altαir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Really, because he was crushed by a castle and survived. No Darth Vader can do that shiz and live. (Well, based on how far I got into both stories...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 You assume that the goddess actually had enough power to protect him from an ion cannon... And since Vader kind of lurks on ships, it would be assumed that the battle would take place on a ship. In which case...LOLAIRLOCK.Bye BK, enjoy your stay in the cold infinity of space. If Vader doesn't order the ships cannons to lock and fire, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altαir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 But that's not the point. It's Darth Vader alone, he has no ships with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 You assume that the goddess actually had enough power to protect him from an ion cannon... And since Vader kind of lurks on ships' date=' it would be assumed that the battle would take place on a ship. In which case...LOLAIRLOCK.Bye BK, enjoy your stay in the cold infinity of space. If Vader doesn't order the ships cannons to lock and fire, that is.[/quote'] You're not seeing my point. The goddess would simply go, 'lolioncannons' and reflect them or such. Also, if Vader's bringing in his armory then, enjoy being turned to stone. =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 You assume the goddess is all powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 You assume the goddess is all powerful. You assume a blast from an ion cannon is greater than divine powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altαir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 You assume the goddess is all powerful. You assume a blast from an ion cannon is greater than divine powers. We all assume. Stop assuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Look- If hypothetically, I had the power to go back to the medieval ages, I could load up on guns and go back and declare myself a god. And people would believe me. Yet, if I were to go to the future, I would get my ass handed to me because all my weaponry is obsolete. (inb4blesseduberarmor=/=futuregunz) I know its not exactly the same thing, but my point is, just because this "goddess" has define uber powers in a medieval era, doesn't necessarily mean she can uberhax the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Look- If hypothetically' date=' I had the power to go back to the medieval ages, I could load up on guns and go back and declare myself a god. And people would believe me. Yet, if I were to go to the future, I would get my ass handed to me because all my weaponry is obsolete. (inb4blesseduberarmor=/=futuregunz) I know its not exactly the same thing, but my point is, just because this "goddess" has define uber powers in a [i']medieval[/i] era, doesn't necessarily mean she can uberhax the future. Fair enough. I suppose I'll stop arguing here. =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altαir Posted October 31, 2009 Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Look- If hypothetically' date=' I had the power to go back to the medieval ages, I could load up on guns and go back and declare myself a god. And people would believe me. Yet, if I were to go to the future, I would get my ass handed to me because all my weaponry is obsolete. (inb4blesseduberarmor=/=futuregunz) I know its not exactly the same thing, but my point is, just because this "goddess" has define uber powers in a [i']medieval[/i] era, doesn't necessarily mean she can uberhax the future. Fair enough. I suppose I'll stop arguing here. =/ I won't because I'm like that. The Goddess is a symbol. Born of people's imagination, it is the will of the ones who follow her that makes them all powerful. This goddess would not exist in a realm where no one knows she exists. Neither would her effects. So it depends on the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2009 Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn is on the Wii, but whatever. Darth Vader can only shoot lasers if he brings his ships, his clone armies, or a gun. The Black Knight can fire lasers (sonic waves if you want to get technical) from his sword whenever he wants. I think the lasers would both cancel each other out if they hit each other. Though, I have to say, both the [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlXEWo-Bu8M]Black Knight[/url] and [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8]Darth Vader[/url] both have awesome music. If you didn't notice, I put url's in their names, so click them for awesome music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Jevans Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 Well, The Black Knight has blessed armour and a blessed sword. He is able to kill in one swing but he first has to get close to his opponent. Darth Vader has the force which can be used at a distance as force choke or simply dropping him from a great height. However the Black knight may not feel the weight of his armour but Vader does so that could slow him long enough for the Black knight to kill him.There is also the lightsaber which supposedly can cut through anything but if only blessed weapons can destroy the Black knight's armour and sword he could at least block the sword. It's a tough choice. I'm not really sure who would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Metal Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 When in doubt: Strip them naked and give them a sword. That way only their skill with a sword with come into play. In which case, Vader wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted November 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 How on earth would Vader in in that case? Zelgius/Black Knight is the ultimate swordsman. And Lil Jevans, Zelgius/Black Knight can fire sonic waves from his sword, so he doesn't have to be close to Vader at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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