byak Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Discuss. inb4cybervalley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Looking at when it was released, I expect this was designed to be a helpful thing to remove with DAD/TDC. It does an okay job but I'd rarely find the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 yeah. not much i can use in TCG/OCG with it. a great Support for Created Card Deck though i made =3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 I can see it used with Caius1000 Damage plus scrap a card in your hand for a new card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 yeah. that would work. i should try that combo some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 So thats the Ouroboros project. I must admit' date=' it kinda sucks.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 It is nigh unplayable because it is an Optional Trigger Effect, therefor it misses the timing on almost everything. If it was mandatory, it could have been sooooo much better. It still would have been meh, but at least it would be playable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Good with Chimerat-What the funk am I thinking? *hits self* Bad. Seriously bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polycarp Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 It is nigh unplayable because it is an Optional Trigger Effect' date=' therefor it misses the timing on almost everything. If it was mandatory, it could have been sooooo much better. It still would have been meh, but at least it would be playable.[/quote'] I'm not too good with "missing the time" or "Optional Trigger Effects" so could you help me out here, guys? =/ What would make it miss the timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:Incognito:. Posted October 26, 2009 Report Share Posted October 26, 2009 Bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 It is nigh unplayable because it is an Optional Trigger Effect' date=' therefor it misses the timing on almost everything. If it was mandatory, it could have been sooooo much better. It still would have been meh, but at least it would be playable.[/quote'] I'm not too good with "missing the time" or "Optional Trigger Effects" so could you help me out here, guys? =/ What would make it miss the timing? Eh, I gotta admit, this. What kinds of effects would make it miss the timing, and which effects let it go off without a hitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 It is nigh unplayable because it is an Optional Trigger Effect' date=' therefor it misses the timing on almost everything. If it was mandatory, it could have been sooooo much better. It still would have been meh, but at least it would be playable.[/quote'] I'm not too good with "missing the time" or "Optional Trigger Effects" so could you help me out here, guys? =/ What would make it miss the timing? Eh, I gotta admit, this. What kinds of effects would make it miss the timing, and which effects let it go off without a hitch? Basically anything that does anything after initially removing Cyber Ouroboros from play would make it miss its timing. Namely Overload Fusion, which, besides the (situational, in this case) Allure of Darkness, are about the only cards that you would conceivably want to remove Cyber Ouroboros from play with. So yeah, just Overload Fusion. I might have exaggerated the missing the timing thing, but when it misses the timing on something this big, it's a huge deal. Oh, and Caius makes it miss the timing, too, due to the damage infliction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I use it in my combo with Darknight Parshath to draw 2 cards instead of 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polycarp Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 What about Chaos? Misses the timing because the last thing that happened was the summon? =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 What about Chaos? Misses the timing because the last thing that happened was the summon? =/ Yeah, that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 What about Chaos? Misses the timing because the last thing that happened was the summon? =/ Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Which side does DAD activate on? I assume the not drawing part, since it's being RFG-ed as a cost and what not... How about Necroface? How about Gold Sarc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polycarp Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 So this is only good for Allure =/ Oh well, still enough reason for me to run it =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 I use it in my combo with Darknight Parshath to draw 2 cards instead of 1 I don't think that actually works. Did you do this in a video game or in real life? It should miss the timing because drawing a card with Parshath is the last thing that happens.Which side does DAD activate on? I assume the not drawing part' date=' since it's being RFG-ed as a cost and what not... How about Necroface? How about Gold Sarc?[/quote'] DAD: Misses the timing. Destroying a card is the last thing that happens. Necroface: I think if you remove another Necroface with the first one, since Necroface has a Mandatory Trigger Effect, it would activate first and force Cyber Ouroboros to miss the timing. Gold Sarc: Can't see why this wouldn't work.So this is only good for Allure =/ Oh well' date=' still enough reason for me to run it =P[/quote'] So you're running this card just to remove it with Allure? That seems like it would blow up in your face more times than it would benefit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 It misses the timing and it's a -1...There are better draw and/or discard options (Card Destruction?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Anything that removes this and does anything after the remove causes this to miss the timing... uber fail :? especially since most everything to remove it would remove it as a cost -.- the few cards it DOES work with you would rather use on something else so that it isn't situational as heck, namly: Gold SarcoAllure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Bad... really bad... It's situational and could be a -1 depending on how it's removed... hell it can never get better than a +0. Misses the timing as well. Worst attempt at a draw card since Torax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 There is my precious Tempest Magician OTK Deck where Allure and Gold Sarcophagus would make this look good xD @b0b3rt: its not a -1 <_<... you are not removing it to discard something else, you remove it by other means and then use this as a +0... don't see the -1 part O_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 If you use gold sarc the whole combo is an awful -1 and waste of a sarc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted October 27, 2009 Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 There is my precious Tempest Magician OTK Deck where Allure and Gold Sarcophagus would make this look good xD @b0b3rt: its not a -1 <_<... you are not removing it to discard something else' date=' you remove it by other means and then use this as a +0... don't see the -1 part O_o[/quote'] It's effect is a +0, but since it is being removed and then you are getting a +0, it's a -1, unless it's from the grave or deck, then it's a +0 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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