Overpowered Effect?

[賢狼ホロ]

I have been toying with this effect for a continuous/field spell card;

 

"When this face-up card is destroyed, flip it face-down instead."

 

I discussed this with my friend and he said "it is not hard to destroy, it is impossible to destroy". Well, I realize it is indeed very hard to destroy, as you have to destroy it twice the same turn to actually destroy it.

But "remove from play" works, right? I am quite new to Yu-Gi-Oh so I do not know how many cards that removes spell cards from play there are.

 

So I have been thinking about an effect that goes along with this. As I am not fond of paying lots of life points or tributing monsters to keep the effect in play, I was rather thinking of either a "harmless" effect or an effect that affects both players equally.

 

The latter brought my thoughts to my "Natural Selection" field spell card;

"This card cannot be destroyed or negated on the turn it is activated. During each player's End Phase destroy the monster with the lowest ATK and DEF. If tied, no cards are destroyed."

 

Replace the first sentence with this new effect? Is it still way overpowered? Your thoughts/opinions/ideas?

[Susie]

I don't think this belongs here.

[Hydra of Ages]

He mentioned a card in the last paragraph, so it counts.

 

It's not an overpowered effect, as long as it has some sort of cost in addition to whatever benefit it may grant. Removing from play does indeed work, although the only card that removes from play that targets spells that is likely to see play would be Caius. If it was a field Spell card, you could also get rid of it by playing another field (Displacing it with another card isn't considered 'destroying it'- it's just removed from the field).

[賢狼ホロ]

So what about;

 

Natural Selection

Field Spell Card

When this face-up card is destroyed (except by another Field Spell Card), flip it face-down instead. During each player's End Phase destroy the monster with the lowest ATK and DEF. If tied, no cards are destroyed.

 

Would it be balanced, or would it need a cost?

[Susie]

He mentioned a card in the last paragraph' date=' so it counts.

 

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oops my bad.

(I've said that same thing over and over again today what's with me?)

[Hydra of Ages]

So what about;

 

Natural Selection

Field Spell Card

When this face-up card is destroyed (except by another Field Spell Card)' date=' flip it face-down instead. During each player's End Phase destroy the monster with the lowest ATK and DEF. If tied, no cards are destroyed.[/i']

 

Would it be balanced, or would it need a cost?

 

That'd be balanced, but you still have a couple OCG errors.

 

First, you said "With the lowest ATK and DEF". How do you decide that? What if there's a monster with a higher DEF but a lower ATK than another monster?

[玄魔の王]

So what about;

 

Natural Selection

Field Spell Card

When this face-up card is destroyed (except by another Field Spell Card)' date=' flip it face-down instead. During each player's End Phase destroy the monster with the lowest ATK and DEF. If tied, no cards are destroyed.[/i']

 

Would it be balanced, or would it need a cost?

 

That'd be balanced, but you still have a couple OCG errors.

 

First, you said "With the lowest ATK and DEF". How do you decide that? What if there's a monster with a higher DEF but a lower ATK than another monster?

My guess is that it's the one that fits both criterias the best. 3 Blackwings: Gale (1300/400), Mistral (100/1800) and Bora (1700/800). Gale is the only one who has less ATK and DEF than someone else, so he dies. That being said, it is indeed confusing.

[Hydra of Ages]

Maybe "Lowest combined ATK and DEF"?

[賢狼ホロ]

Indeed that is what I mean. In the example above;

Gale 1300+400 = 1700

Mistral 100+1900 = 1800

Bora 1700+800 = 2500

Gale is destroyed.

When I posted that card at first I think I wrote "with lowest sum of ATK and DEF", but I think I was told to change it, hence the result.

 

Now it struck my mind that I need to specify the effect is only applied while there are more than 1 face-up monsters.

 

"As long this card remains face-up on the field and there are at least 2 face-up monsters on the field, during each player's End Phase, destroy the monster with the lowest sum of ATK and DEF. If tied, no cards are destroyed. When this face-up card is destroyed (except by another Field Spell Card), flip it face-down instead."

 

Well?

[Susie]

It looks great now!:D

[玄魔の王]

Indeed that is what I mean. In the example above;

Gale 1300+400 = 1700

Mistral 100+1900 = 1800

Bora 1700+800 = 2500

Gale is destroyed.

When I posted that card at first I think I wrote "with lowest sum of ATK and DEF"' date=' but I think I was told to change it, hence the result.

[b']So I got it right the wrong way? I'm spooky good.[/b]

 

Now it struck my mind that I need to specify the effect is only applied while there are more than 1 face-up monsters.

 

"As long this card remains face-up on the field and there are at least 2 face-up monsters on the field, during each player's End Phase, destroy the monster with the lowest sum of ATK and DEF. If tied, no cards are destroyed. When this face-up card is destroyed (except by another Field Spell Card), flip it face-down instead."

That makes more sense. And not broken because of Caius, Raiza etc.

Well?

 

Good job. 8/10.

[賢狼ホロ]

Is there anything I can do to raise the rating those last steps or is completed? : D

[玄魔の王]

A single card won't get higher than 8/10 from me unless its God Good. So that's as high as I go unless you make more. Nice work.

[Hydra of Ages]

One last edit and I think it's as good as it's gunna get.

 

"As long this card remains face-up on the field and there are at least 2 face-up monsters on the field, during each player's End Phase, destroy the monster with the lowest sum of ATK and DEF on either player's side of the field. If tied, no cards are destroyed. When this face-up card is destroyed (except by another Field Spell Card), flip it face-down instead."

 

Otherwise, there's confusion on whether the card only effects the player's own field during their turn or not.

[玄魔の王]

That's not strictly true. Cards explicitly state whether they're side-exclusive. I see where you're going though. Let me try the OCG:

 

One last edit and I think it's as good as it's gunna get.

 

"During each player's End Phase' date=' if there are 2 or more face-up monsters on the field, destroy the face-up monster with the lowest combined ATK and DEF. (If it is a tie, no cards are destroyed.) When this face-up card would be destroyed by a card effect, flip it face-down instead."

 

Otherwise, there's confusion on whether the card only effects the player's own field during their turn or not.

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That's what it should read.

[賢狼ホロ]

Oh, I see phrasing it "by a card effect" the need of specifying it can be replaced by another Field Spell Card disappears. "I say, that was a superb strategical move at a critical juncture!"

 

More cards you say? Well, I did make some cards together with this one;

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-162754.html

I guess my title were not eye-catching enough to keep the thread alive. -_-

 

Thanks for your help!