Advanced Clause Statistics Poll

[SushiTheLegend]

Since talking between us has gotten absolutely nowhere. I'm posting this poll to get the roleplayers of this site's opinion regarding the advance clause. It's very simple, are you happy with the advanced clause and want it to stay, or do you not like it and want it gone. Remember the majority wins, and compromise happens for the few, I think lol. Also feel free to add your views.

 

P.S. To any Moderator who sees this. This is a ROLEPLAY MODERATIVE POLL, DO NOT and I mean DO NOT MOVE IT.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Lets draw it out for you Sushi.

 

Role-Playing on a Forum, is essentially a game. A game where you play out a story, using words and text. Those word and text that you post, are the very fundamentals of this game and how the story moves forward. Thus, one can assume that;

- Being as descriptive as possible, while still maintaining a sense of individuality is key. No, not key. It IS what role-playing is.

- Having minimal sentences is utter stupidity, because you rarely have enough grounds to continue in an RP without running into trouble with someone elses idea of how it's going to go on.

 

The advanced clause is only promoting that further. Majority does not win in this scenario... Common Sense does.

[Otaku-sama]

I say as an avid RPer that the Advanced Clause was a revolutionary set of rules that made roleplaying much more fun and allowed RPs to have a much longer life expectancy than without it. Disabling the Advanced Clause was a big mistake and will lead to the deaths of many a good RP and cause the creation of crappy posts not worthy to be called RPs.

 

Long live Advanced Clause!!!

[SushiTheLegend]

Icy, again leave this section it has nothing to do with you. This was discussed amongst me, Rinne, and Shadius. As for the advanced clause I originally tried to introduce it nobody was budging so sue me. I do not like one liners as much as the next guy but yeah compromises need to be made not just enforcement, also Shadius and I discussed another idea but until this poll is done we won't know what is going to happen. So for the last time Icy, BUTT OUT OF THIS. You're starting to get on my nerves just because you're a Super and think your point is the most right.

[Guest JoshIcy]

How is this thread even about me like that?

I've been known to RP from time to time; albeit rarely.

 

And I do understand what and how to RP.

[Guest Merciful Idiot]

I say as an avid RPer that the Advanced Clause was a revolutionary set of rules that made roleplaying much more fun and allowed RPs to have a much longer life expectancy than without it.

 

Although I DO think that script format shouldn't be used' date=' I doubt that a strict set of rules (Which people get banned just for trying to have fun) is 'fun'.

 

Disabling the Advanced Clause was a big mistake and will lead to the deaths of many a good RP and cause the creation of crappy posts not worthy to be called RPs.

 

Long live Advanced Clause!!!

Any Role Play is worthy to be called a Role Play. You have forgotten the true meaning of Role Playing, it's not to be 'perfect' or 'nearly perfect', but to actually enjoy it, have fun and let your imagination loose (Or something along those lines). Why is it that people have sometimes got banned just for just trying to have actual fun with others. And yes, I did do two "just"s on purpose. I don't know about you but when I role play, I actually imagine myself as the character, not just as the 'guy who tells the character what to do'.

 

The Advance Clause may be fun, but usually for for those Advanced and those who don't like 'inferior Role Players'. Others may just say they like it just because they are bored.

[Kaisu]

Again, this is a CASUAL site. NOT a RolePlaying site. Also, see above. Good work on killing most people's threads by the way. I had posted my veiws on the last rules thread which probably has been deleted now, but still. There's FanFiction where we try to get the content to be perfect, while here. All that matters to people who are actually fun to be with and not uptight, is what happens in the Roleplay. Soo... Bai bai to the Advanced Clause rule, I hope.

[Tempest Dahlia]

Advance clause=GODMODING

 

I think it should be destroyed and never spoke of again... Mufufufufu...

[Big Bad Pennar]

I say as an avid RPer that the Advanced Clause was a revolutionary set of rules that made roleplaying much more fun and allowed RPs to have a much longer life expectancy than without it.

 

Although I DO think that script format shouldn't be used' date=' I doubt that a strict set of rules (Which people get banned just for trying to have fun) is 'fun'.

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Exactly the Reason why I say the Advanced Clause is Elitist

 

Disabling the Advanced Clause was a big mistake and will lead to the deaths of many a good RP and cause the creation of crappy posts not worthy to be called RPs.

 

Long live Advanced Clause!!!

Any Role Play is worthy to be called a Role Play. You have forgotten the true meaning of Role Playing' date=' it's not to be 'perfect' or 'nearly perfect', but to actually enjoy it, have fun and let your imagination loose (Or something along those lines). Why is it that people have sometimes got banned just for just trying to have actual fun with others. And yes, I did do two "just"s on purpose. I don't know about you but when I role play, I actually imagine myself as the character, not just as the 'guy who tells the character what to do'.

 

The [b']Advance[/b] Clause may be fun, but usually for for those Advanced and those who don't like 'inferior Role Players'. Others may just say they like it just because they are bored.

 

Italics = AKA Elitists

 

although I couldn't sum it any Better than that

 

Advance clause=GODMODING

 

I think it should be destroyed and never spoke of again... Mufufufufu...

 

First line, I LOLed and the second line, I Agree, Shall i Sig this Wonderful Quote?

[Tempest Dahlia]

^Yes... You have my permission to quote it... In fact... I prefer you do...

Mufufufufu.....

[Chaotic Angel]

It seems that people are strongly disagreeing with the Advanced Clause, but I'm letting it stay so people can post longer posts.

[Naimo]

Hmmmmmm I don't know ... here's how I see it:

 

The Advanced Clause was never an issue for me. However sometimes when you respond, sometimes you just cant say anything but one or two sentences because you're not the one who's running the plot/sub-plot/in control of the scene so you end up unable to post, etc. I also feel the Advanced Clause has killed some of the fun; before, RPing used to scream "MEGA LOL" at me, but now it ... doesn't as much (believe me, I do miss in-house sandwich gags, but that's a different story and unrelated to the Advanced Clause, so let's not go there). HOWEVER, the Advanced Clause does teach people to spell properly, grammar rules, paragraphs, etc etc.

 

To sum up, is Advanced Clause good or bad? I honestly don't know.

[CinnamonStar]

To Flandre: We had a PM talk about this and honestly I still hold on to it.

 

 

I don't really see the elitist part about the Advanced Clause. Basically, all you need to do is this: min. 4 sentences, 2-3 paragraphs (which isn't much), as good grammar and spelling as possible (which I believe other than your capitalization errors should work for you), proper dialogue (great, I learned quotation marks in my 2nd grade or something and script format isn't useful at all), no copy-pasta and you're already following the rules. There's nothing hard to follow in there, it's basically the same as (it should have been) before, plus the min. content part.

 

 

Also you told me about friends of yours that got banned but mentioned that they broke other rules too.

Well that's one point, I don't think a ban is handed out like that just for not following the Advanced Clause once. So if people get banned here I have reasons to believe that it was for other things too.

 

 

To Merciful Idiot: I don't see the Advanced Clause as something strict or a way to create a hierarchic gap between newbies and advanced roleplayers. If it's the name that makes you think it's elitist then PM the mods or something.

I see it more as a mean to put more people on an "advanced" level but of course there will always be people who think they're higher than others.

 

 

You have forgotten the true meaning of Role Playing, it's not to be 'perfect' or 'nearly perfect', but to actually enjoy it, have fun and let your imagination loose (Or something along those lines).

 

Well-said but I'd add: within the frames of certain rules.

 

I've seen people comparing our Advanced Clause to the one on other sites but there's a large difference.

Sites like Roleplayerguild are solely based on RPs while YCM has a younger average audience and started as a cardmaking forum. We didn't have a RP section until Danilus suggested it, just for teh info.

 

So what we needed here is a way to improve this section:

-WITHOUT putting the scale too high (keep this in mind, what Umbra implemented is by no means too high)

-but still by punishing people who only use this section as a way to raise their post count which is the reason why improvement was needed

 

 

So we needed a middle gap and personally I think the Advanced Clause we have here just fills that.

It cuts down the number of people who abuse it just for their post count and improves roleplaying but at the same time it's not as elitist as some people think.

 

 

So yeah, I'm happy with it.

[Namo™]

Ya know, seeing as the advanced clause has helped me

It seems that people are strongly disagreeing with the Advanced Clause' date=' but I'm letting it stay so people can post longer posts.

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Of course people are gonna disagree! Some people can't handle the advanced clause, They arent very good at RPing >_> Which is why I belive that the Advanced clause should stay till these people are good enough to RP

[Big Bad Pennar]

I can Handle the Advanced Clause(Other than the Crapitalizations), But i'm just in other People Shoes when I think what I'm thinking about the Advanced Clause....

 

Besides, the RPing School RP that Umbra set up is not Interesting in My eyes, and if it isn't interesting to me, I doubt the others will be....

[六兆年と一夜物語]

I don't care, really. I like to post how I like.

 

If the AC was this terrible and enforces rules for most/all RPs, then I'd say this is just as good as communism. Everybody should Role Play how they want. Even though I hate script style, I still want people to post how they want. So the best you can really do is keep the Advanced Clause, but RPs can either be Advanced or not.

[Felix Culpa]

The Advanced Clause is probably one of the best things that happened to this section in a while. Cleansed it out, pretty much, of anyone with little or no grammar, spelling, or minimum combination of the two. The RP's have all around gotten better, the ability to grow off someone's post increasing, allowing the plot to flourish.

[SushiTheLegend]

I'm not saying that the Advanced Clause doesn't help people improve, the problem is that it FORCES people to improve. Some people prefer to get better in their own time. But yeah there may be something else done that combines the advanced clause with what I originally inteded to do, as I did try to get people to post more originally which some maybe remember which I gave up on because a lot of people were just negative towards the idea.

 

Essentially the aim of the poll is to get an understanding of the roleplay members we have on this forum. As I may have mentioned at least once, I dislike one liners, and I especially HATE with a passion people who write two or three words. But I don't like the idea of saying "Well if you don't post this amount, you're rule breaking", gotta kinda understand it like that too. Hopefully whatever the result turns out to be on Monday, we can do something that will make EVERYONE happy.

[bury the year]

Lol, you already know my thoughts.

 

Before the Advanced Clause, people were making posts that were off-topic, didn't contribute to the thread, and would be treated as spam in any other good section and would not be allowed. With the clause, these kinds of things are removed, and much more can be "contributed" with each post. Undoing it would simply undo this hard work.

[CinnamonStar]

I can Handle the Advanced Clause(Other than the Crapitalizations)' date=' But i'm just in other People Shoes when I think what I'm thinking about the Advanced Clause....

 

Besides, the RPing School RP that Umbra set up is not Interesting in My eyes, and if it isn't interesting to me, I doubt the others will be....

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Then that's their problem.

But honestly if you admit you can handle the Advanced Clause why would you think others can't? There's really nothing that hard about it and if people get banned they must have broken several rules. A ban isn't just handed out like that.

 

And if Umbra proposes you alternatives/ways to improve and you don't like it - oh well, what else can he do? What kind of improvement thread similar to the RP school would you like to see then?

 

 

And Rinne pretty much covered it up.

I don't see the Advanced Clause as some kind of tyranny that spreads the better roleplayers from the newbies. But it gets rid of the spam which is not tolerated in any section other than Games.

 

Forcing people to improve would be expecting perfect grammar and spelling, 800 words or something and not allowing OOC posts at all.

But 4 sentences, 2-3 paragraphs, take care of your grammar and try to contribute to the RP isn't that much improvement, really. It does get rid of the spam and really horrible posts that wouldn't be accepted in another section, yes, but from what I've seen in this section, it doesn't "force" anyone to turn into one hell of a roleplayer from one day to another.

 

 

But if Sheena has another idea that will combine this with something else then I'm looking forward to it too.

[Davok]

What I was about to say has already been said by Icy and Opalmoon. ;D

 

I support the Advanced Clause.

[Yu-gi-oh Dude]

Down with the Advanced Clause!

[Namo™]

Keep the Advanced Clause!

 

There fixed :3

[Skuldur]

PEOPLE, if you want to make an Rp just for fun, make it in the Games Section, since you want to do it for fun the post count shouldn't matter.

 

Most of the people who complain about the Advanced Clause are the spammers and people too lazy to improve.

 

The AC is in NO way Elitist. It has saved this section and I wish for it to stay.

 

Long live the Advanced Clause!

[Sunshine Jesse]

Everything that could been said has been. The Advanced Clause isnt that hard to follow and everyone that cant RP the minimum of what it states shouldn't RP at all.