Prada Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 It's not for you to decide what she should put her hope on or not. I never said it was. It's stupid to let someone kill themselves because of a false high hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 it is better to be bashed for doing the right thing then being praised for doing the wrong thing.hope is the very essence of mankind. without it, we are but empty shells.and i wasn't saying that she was stupid. i was saying that if she is going to make a mistake, let her make it and learn from it instead of trying to get her to avoid it at all costs, as that would actually do more harm then good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntar! Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yankee, she might be in love with this guy, yeah. We know that. But we're looking out for her, and we're going to be her shoulder to cry on when things dont go her way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa Kirisame-ze Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Edit: To above post:So' date=' your saying that forcing doubt in a relationship in wich she is truly happy is more healthy?[/quote'] SEEING THE REALITY IS MORE HEALTHY. Don't you get that? In reality, dating your cousin usually doesn't work, we are just trying to help her realize that something could go wrong, and when it does, she should be ready. We DONT want THAT to happen, but we want her to be preppared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dismal Euphony Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Ever since this conversation has started, I've wanted to listen to "How to Save a Life" by The Fray. o.o; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 "reality is my friend, no matter how uncomfortable or inconvenient it may be in the given moment." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Ever since this conversation has started' date=' I've wanted to listen to "How to Save a Life" by The Fray. o.o;[/quote'] Lolwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 "where did i go wrong, i was a friend...." XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 It's not for you to decide what she should put her hope on or not. I never said it was. It's stupid to let someone kill themselves because of a false high hope. How are you so sure it's false hope? Relationships can last. Not every teenage relationship fails. Yankee' date=' she might be in love with this guy, yeah. We know that. But we're looking out for her, and we're going to be her shoulder to cry on when things dont go her way.[/quote'] Thats respectable, just change your tactic? Edit: To above post:So' date=' your saying that forcing doubt in a relationship in wich she is truly happy is more healthy?[/quote'] SEEING THE REALITY IS MORE HEALTHY. Don't you get that? In reality, dating your cousin usually doesn't work, we are just trying to help her realize that something could go wrong, and when it does, she should be ready. We DONT want THAT to happen, but we want her to be preppared. I get that, but, what reality is there to truly see? It seems this guy has been faithful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 "reality is my friend' date=' no matter how uncomfortable or inconvenient it may be in the given moment."[/quote']and as long as he is faithful and caring and symathetic and what ever else, there's nothing to bash, as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 How are you so sure it's false hope? Relationships can last. Not every teenage relationship fails. I know, but fact is, again, the road they plan on going down, the constant problems, the rush, all these factors just do not add up to a success as a relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa Kirisame-ze Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Still, the oppinion of things not working out is always there. Even if reality isn't in it's place, things could fail in the end and defy reality. There's ALWAYS that oppinion; fail or succeed. I really want her to open her eyes to BOTH options, so no matter which one happens, she's ready for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 How are you so sure it's false hope? Relationships can last. Not every teenage relationship fails. I know' date=' but fact is, again, the road they plan on going down, the constant problems, the rush, all these factors just do not add up to a success as a relationship.[/quote']How is that different than ANY relationship?A 23 year old can get married, and would have many of the same problems. EDIT: Look all, I get your point. I get that you want her to be ok, and look at both sides, but you have to stop being forceful with it. Also, if she refuses, accept that, and let her continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 too true C-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 How are you so sure it's false hope? Relationships can last. Not every teenage relationship fails. I know' date=' but fact is, again, the road they plan on going down, the constant problems, the rush, all these factors just do not add up to a success as a relationship.[/quote']How is that different than ANY relationship?A 23 year old can get married, and would have many of the same problems. I wasn't specifically implying that those are true to just teenagers, I was mainly assessing the relationship as a whole, these problems can be applied to any age group. Not to any relationship, though. There are people who can take the paths for the better, but they will still have some doubt. Without the doubt, most likely everyone's hopes will be shattered for good. There can always be hope, but where there is hope, there is also doubt, no matter how small said doubt is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 "EDIT: Look all, I get your point. I get that you want her to be ok, and look at both sides, but you have to stop being forceful with it. Also, if she refuses, accept that, and let her continue. " That is my basic point. Lay off some, and let her decide for herself.Forcing her to doubt him can lead to nothing but trouble for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa Kirisame-ze Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 How are you so sure it's false hope? Relationships can last. Not every teenage relationship fails. I know' date=' but fact is, again, the road they plan on going down, the constant problems, the rush, all these factors just do not add up to a success as a relationship.[/quote']How is that different than ANY relationship?A 23 year old can get married, and would have many of the same problems. EDIT: Look all, I get your point. I get that you want her to be ok, and look at both sides, but you have to stop being forceful with it. Also, if she refuses, accept that, and let her continue. I agree to that, and wasn't trying to be forceful. Afterall it is HER life, and we barely have a place in it since we are just from the internet. Don't always take advice from internet people xD [/lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 in other, more blunt words, shut te funk up about it and leave her the funk alone. if she is going to make a mistake, let her make it and then say whatever after the fact. XD nervous editation: oh my goodness. i didn't go to far over the line and make the thread suddenly stop did i? 'O_O; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 You need to not listen to what anyone says about your feelings and/or decisions other than yourself and the person you care about. While you are kinda young' date=' and it may not be the best move at that age, why should the opinions of people who don't even know you and/or the person you're in love with affect your decision? Think about what YOU want, and make your decision based on that.[/quote'] How are you so sure it's false hope? Relationships can last. Not every teenage relationship fails. I know' date=' but fact is, again, the road they plan on going down, the constant problems, the rush, all these factors just do not add up to a success as a relationship.[/quote']How is that different than ANY relationship?A 23 year old can get married, and would have many of the same problems. EDIT: Look all, I get your point. I get that you want her to be ok, and look at both sides, but you have to stop being forceful with it. Also, if she refuses, accept that, and let her continue. I agree to that, and wasn't trying to be forceful. Afterall it is HER life, and we barely have a place in it since we are just from the internet. Don't always take advice from internet people xD [/lol] So, you have joined my side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nightmare Anatomy Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I talked to claire. I told her how I felt. I also found out that there was no gun. It just looked like a 38. >.< Claire is pissed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Zero Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 i see. i guess there's no way around that then, huh? her feelings are hurt because she thought that the 2 of you were close enough to where you would do that for her, and is very disappointed at being wrong. she'll get over it, but i just hope that your relationship with her survives as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa Kirisame-ze Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 @C-2: I'm on no one's side. This isn't a battle, we don't need teams. But I do agree with what you have to say~ And why is Claire pissed?Dammit, whenever the name Claire comes up I always think of Larxene >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 @C-2: I'm on no one's side. This isn't a battle' date=' we don't need teams. But I do agree with what you have to say~ And why is Claire pissed?Dammit, whenever the name Claire comes up I always think of Larxene >_>[/quote'] Ya, well, glad you agree. And, lol, ya, I always think of Clariex when I see the name "Claire" XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira Magister Magi Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Any help on my sitch? How do I ask either out at all? What's your situation? And you are between two girls' date=' I'm assuming? That's bad right there.[/quote'] My situation is kinda weird lol. I have never had a gf' date=' ever. I liked this beautiful girl in my school, never told her, and she changed schools last year. I now like 2 of my friends, but that whole tv cliché comes to mind of, "If I ask out my friend, will it ruin my friendship with her?" I need help lol[/quote'] It is bad though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I think I crossed the line. She said "Aww' date=' I don't hate you, I love you." BAAAAAAAAAAAAAD TERRITORY Dx[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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