werewolfjedi Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I'm just happy that I get to have 3 breakers, since is not quite as effective at stopping things these days, what with all the chainables running around, but I can still kill off several cards in one turn with breaker, endymion, spell power grasp and apprentice to give more/ sub. it makes noobs quit on DMU and WC09 with just one, with three.... I'm actually worried that if someone actually makes an insane breaker chaos deck he will get limited or even banned next time around. I would not like that. anyway, with DSF banned the otk synchro deck has been weakened significantly, so it's back to beating each other's face in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Dark Strike Fighter Banned = No.....should've been Limited. That statement right there makes everything else you said moot because you obviously need to learn to play the game if you think that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Eh...I just said that cause most of my decks involve using DSF. Oh well, it's fine banned. Atleast I won't have it used against me anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Eh...I just said that cause most of my decks involve using DSF. Oh well' date=' it's fine banned. Atleast I won't have it used against me anymore.[/quote'] Biasts =/= what should happen on the banlist DSF was broken, period. There is absolutly no reason what so ever that you can say that makes it unbroken and unbanable. It allows like 50 OTKs/FTKs that made the game so freakin fast that it isn't even fun anymore. DSF being banned actually gives failnomi SOME sense in this card game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 new meta is great, no complaining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis2 Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 This banlist doesn't effect me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 This banlist doesn't effect me at all. Lolycm. Blackwings got hit fairly hard with the destruction of DSF anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparta™ Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 This banlist doesn't effect me at all. Lolycm. Blackwings got hit fairly hard with the destruction of DSF anyhow. EVERYTHING got hit hard with the destruction of DSF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 This banlist doesn't effect me at all. Lolycm. Blackwings got hit fairly hard with the destruction of DSF anyhow. EVERYTHING got hit hard with the destruction of DSF. Yes, I was actually being sarcastic, numbnuts. Though you can't really tell on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparta™ Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 This banlist doesn't effect me at all. Lolycm. Blackwings got hit fairly hard with the destruction of DSF anyhow. EVERYTHING got hit hard with the destruction of DSF. Yes' date=' I was actually being sarcastic, numbnuts. Though you can't really tell on the internet.[/quote'] Because sarcasm tags don't exist on the internet. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Raiza at 3 avoids Stardust, promotes locks, and lets monarchs gain ground against Lightsworn and Zombies (the top decked card blocks the topped card topped by Plaguespreader). and allows use of Conscription to rebut.D.D. Warrior Lady at 3 is good for getting rid of annoying cards.Breaker at 3 promotes use of the crappy Endymion decks.Chaos Sorcerer at 2 is fine, because it cant remove Face downs, which means you have to flip the monster before your remove it, and, promotes use of crappy Endymion decks. lolarmedwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparta™ Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Raiza at 3 avoids Stardust' date=' promotes locks, and lets monarchs gain ground against Lightsworn and Zombies (the top decked card blocks the topped card topped by Plaguespreader). and allows use of Conscription to rebut.D.D. Warrior Lady at 3 is good for getting rid of annoying cards.Breaker at 3 promotes use of the crappy Endymion decks.Chaos Sorcerer at 2 is fine, because it cant remove Face downs, which means you have to flip the monster before your remove it, and, promotes use of crappy Endymion decks. lolarmedwing.[/quote'] Best. Newbie. EVAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Raiza at 3 avoids Stardust' date=' promotes locks, and lets monarchs gain ground against Lightsworn and Zombies (the top decked card blocks the topped card topped by Plaguespreader). and allows use of Conscription to rebut.D.D. Warrior Lady at 3 is good for getting rid of annoying cards.Breaker at 3 promotes use of the crappy Endymion decks.[b']Chaos Sorcerer at 2 is fine, because it cant remove Face downs, which means you have to flip the monster before your remove it, and, promotes use of crappy Endymion decks.[/b] lolarmedwing. Except that it also promotes the nigh dead and fricken annoying Chaos decks... yay? While that isn't horrible, it WAS banned for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Raiza at 3 avoids Stardust' date=' promotes locks, and lets monarchs gain ground against Lightsworn and Zombies (the top decked card blocks the topped card topped by Plaguespreader). and allows use of Conscription to rebut.D.D. Warrior Lady at 3 is good for getting rid of annoying cards.Breaker at 3 promotes use of the crappy Endymion decks.[b']Chaos Sorcerer at 2 is fine, because it cant remove Face downs, which means you have to flip the monster before your remove it, and, promotes use of crappy Endymion decks.[/b] lolarmedwing. Except that it also promotes the nigh dead and fricken annoying Chaos decks... yay? While that isn't horrible, it WAS banned for a reasonI don't consider it a Chaos Deck unless BLS and CED are ran in it. And unless Chaos can be run in Advanced format, i don't consider it at all. Fissure at 3 will assure Chaos Sorcerer wont stay on the field for too long. It was banned because it was thought "Removed From Play" meant the removed shouldn't come back into play, EVER. But with Macro Decks on the rise, Remove From Play is just another Graveyard or resource pile. Removing from Play monsters is pretty much a necessity now, because for some reason, the broken cards never stop coming back from the graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 I don't see what's wrong with Gale. All it is is a shrink with legs. How about we ban Black Whirlwind instead' date=' because, oh, I don't know, it searches out Gale most of the times? On-topic: The list is still retarted as ever, but thank god the 4 cards that are banned that actually deserved to be banned and Raiza and D.D. Warrior Lady are finally back at 3. And hell, anything better than the Tele-DAD and all-Chaos-monsters-were-still-legal list. DD warrior lady at 3 D.D. Warrior and D.D. Assailant are unlimited.Why should D.D. Warrior Lady be limited? because you can choose to activate her effect at any time, warrior must always go off, and assailant must die, neither of these are part of lady's restrictions on her effect. in fact, her only restriction is that she must attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 I don't see what's wrong with Gale. All it is is a shrink with legs. How about we ban Black Whirlwind instead' date=' because, oh, I don't know, it searches out Gale most of the times? On-topic: The list is still retarted as ever, but thank god the 4 cards that are banned that actually deserved to be banned and Raiza and D.D. Warrior Lady are finally back at 3. And hell, anything better than the Tele-DAD and all-Chaos-monsters-were-still-legal list. DD warrior lady at 3 D.D. Warrior and D.D. Assailant are unlimited.Why should D.D. Warrior Lady be limited? because you can choose to activate her effect at any time, warrior must always go off, and assailant must die, neither of these are part of lady's restrictions on her effect. in fact, her only restriction is that she must attack. Uh, no, the only restriction is that she must battle but then again, so do the other two[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 the only pointless decisions of this banlist are lonfire at 2 and solemn at 1, thats it raiza at 3 was a problem 2 years ago, but its only a problem for bad players, and in the odd occasion having little cards (but could still win) then getting triple raizaed, that sucked hard, but now it dosnt matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 There apparently was an OTK with Lonefire, but I will admit that Solemn at 1 is just lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 An OTK with Lonefire? May I ask what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 2 Lonefire Blossom Semi = Should've been Limited. 2 It has an OTK that uses 3 copies and the card is fine so semi-limiting it is enough. I dunno, Cliff said it, ask him. I don't know anything about it but I think it had something to do with Tytannial and Symbol of Heritage (?) or that thing that allowed the Dewloren FTK with DSF as that's all I can think of. I don't know what the OTK is but I've heard about it on other threads too, so it isn't just cliff saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 There apparently was an OTK with Lonefire' date=' but I will admit that Solemn at 1 is just lame.[/quote']Too many new players unable to ebay a solemn or have anything to trade for one (unknowing that they could get them from Gold Series 2) ran to Konami and created a hurricane of complaints about getting Solemn Beatfaced. And also, Solemn at 3 meant the player with the most field control would not lose that power. You can block a Mirror Force, a Torrential, a summon here and there, a Judgment Dragon, and other things Konami went "oh noez" on because the winning player WOULD win, and they could always have enough LP to activate it. Still a bad move, seeing how knocking yourself to 4000 to block a powerful card from shafting you was extremely helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 An OTK with Lonefire? May I ask what? The OTK was stupid. lonefire 3x into tytanniel, 2 symbol of heritage, attack for game. It's been around forever without making any impact so why they decided now was the time to address it is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 An OTK with Lonefire? May I ask what? The OTK was stupid. lonefire 3x into tytanniel' date=' 2 symbol of heritage, attack for game. It's been around forever without making any impact so why they decided now was the time to address it is beyond me.[/quote'] There is no other explanation :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Can somebody please explain why card of safe return is banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Can somebody please explain why card of safe return is banned? Zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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