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In your opinion' date=' what makes [someone a skilled player']? The way they play, i.e. aggressive, conservative, and so on, or the way they make their deck?

 

What's the logic behind card choices you choose? Do you go with what other people consider "staple" or do you like to be the innovator? Do you choose cards to go with your playstyle or that add synergy to the deck you run?

 

I want to see varied answers, not one line answers. Post logical explanations.

 

Will edit in more information as needed.

 

I have ideas, but I want your opinions, YCM.

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Good is such a subjective word, there's honestly no point in asking since you can get a huge broad range of answers. Heck, the stubbornness someone sees in a "good" player may be seen as a "bad" characteristic by someone else.

 

You'd get better results by asking something like: "what makes someone a skilled player?" and even then, the term "player" may be too broad, since dueling and deck building are vastly different.

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As Azuh stated, the deck doesn't make the player. That said, there are far more reasons than what he said, but there's no point dwelling on that.

 

What I think makes a good player is simple. Their actions while actually playing the game, and their attitude towards their opponent, as well as their actons towards newer or less-fortunate players.

 

One's deck means nothing if one doesn't have the skill to use it effectively. Even if one does, the game's better off without them if they don't carry the SotG (Spirit of the Game: a concept commonly tossed around in some discussion groups for other card games. Overall opinion is that most Yu-Gi-Oh! players lack it.).

 

tl;dr Someone with skill who's nice to those that cannot afford good cards.

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I want to see varied answers' date=' not one line answers.[/quote']

 

This is YCM. For a good portion of time, a lot of posters stuck with "[adjective] [noun] is [adjective]" as a valid explanation for... just about everything they posted.

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Hm.

It's not as if I win a lot. I do average against Lightsworn. Tele-DAD, sometimes I can pull off a lucky win. I don't stand a chance against GB's.

So, I don't know if I can exactly beone to talk about "good players". I don't netdeck. It's bored me to see the same things be played over and over again to tournaments, to the point of where I refuse to netdeck because I want to see some originality.

I'll admit, the decks that get netdecked are strong, and I see why so many people copy them.

I don't use Solemn Judgment. I don't use Bottomless Trap Hole. Hell, I run Toons. No one would consider me a "good player" at the tournaments I go to. Maybe a few people, who are too poor to afford to netdeck.

So, I don't know if anyone would take my opinion seriously when I talk about my idea of a "good player".

Either way, these are my statements, for those who choose to listen.

 

Honestly, I think of a "good player" as anyone who can come up with a good solution to a lot of bad situations, no matter what cards they are. If there is any possible way to get out, a good player would be able to pull it off.

I think a good player can think outside of the mainstream, conventional strategies and such and come up with something no one would see coming.

I think of a good player as someone who has the right manners and such as an opponent. Someone who knows how to treat their opponent's with respect, y'know?

I think of a good player who hears all the things the rest of us do -- this deck is top tier, this deck has this support coming out, this deck is the best netdeck out there -- and I think of that "good player" simply thinking of new strategies to take that down.

I think of a good player who wants to make a balanced deck that can take down almost anything, his/her own way, with his/her original ideas.

 

At least, those are my thoughts.

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Good is such a subjective word' date=' there's honestly no point in asking since you can get a huge broad range of answers. Heck, the stubbornness someone sees in a "good" player may be seen as a "bad" characteristic by someone else.

 

You'd get better results by asking something like: "what makes someone a skilled player?" and even then, the term "player" may be too broad, since dueling and deck building are vastly different.

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I was just curious as to the type of replies that would be said here, compared to ETC. I wasn't trying to list the qualities of a good player, but I understand. Editing my post now.

:D

 

I want to see varied answers' date=' not one line answers.[/quote']

 

This is YCM. For a good portion of time, a lot of posters stuck with "[adjective] [noun] is [adjective]" as a valid explanation for... just about everything they posted.

 

Too true. T_T

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He most have faith in the card of the cards.

 

Outside of the reasons already posted I think he should be able to get the best out of things others wouldn't use. (I mean at a certain point nobody would run E-Heroes except for n00bs until somebody introduced the Big City concept, right?)

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THE WAY IT SHOULD BE:

In my eyes, a good player is someone who can build decks that are not meta, nor anti-meta, than can win from the meta. Respect for other players is also important to me. Knowing the rules or being able to solve discussions quickly and correctly is also a strong point.

 

 

THE WAY IT IS IN REAL LIFE:

Good Player = jabroni with lots of money who knows good deckbuilders and has a brother who judges the tourneys.

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THE WAY IT SHOULD BE:

In my eyes' date=' a good player is someone who can build decks that are not meta, nor anti-meta, than can win from the meta[b']Crab Helmet[/b]. Respect for other players is also important to meCrab Helmet?(?). Knowing the rules or being able to solve discussions quickly and correctly is also a strong pointCrab Helmet.

 

*Cough*

 

THE WAY IT IS IN REAL LIFE

Good Player = a****** with lots of money who knows good deckbuilders and has a brother who judges the tourneys.

^Pretty much this^

And its the sad, sad truth >___>

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THE WAY IT SHOULD BE:

In my eyes' date=' a good player is someone who can build decks that are not meta, nor anti-meta, than can win from the meta[b']Crab Helmet[/b]. Respect for other players is also important to meCrab Helmet?(?). Knowing the rules or being able to solve discussions quickly and correctly is also a strong pointCrab Helmet.

*Cough*

Although Crab has no respect for me....or most other people....

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THE WAY IT SHOULD BE:

In my eyes' date=' a good player is someone who can build decks that are not meta, nor anti-meta, than can win from the meta[b']Crab Helmet[/b]. Respect for other players is also important to meCrab Helmet?(?). Knowing the rules or being able to solve discussions quickly and correctly is also a strong pointCrab Helmet.

*Cough*

Although Crab has no respect for me....or most other people....

 

Crab Helmet has so little respect for average Duelists, he can get me drunk any time he wants. Especially when discussing with you.

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A person who respects other players' date=' and ones who know the rules[/quote']

^This^

Ditto, but I would also like to add "can admit when they are wrong and not be a jerk about it when they are right" as everyone makes mistakes, but if you have that giant egotistical aura around you as you "own noobs" then you are as bad as the 7 year old who just started. Wait, correction, you are worse than that kid because they actually have a reason. I'm not saying you can't be happy about being right, but have some respect...

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A person who respects other players' date=' and ones who know the rules[/quote']

^This^

Ditto, but I would also like to add "can admit when they are wrong and not be a jerk about it when they are right" as everyone makes mistakes, but if you have that giant egotistical aura around you as you "own noobs" then you are as bad as the 7 year old who just started. Wait, correction, you are worse than that kid because they actually have a reason. I'm not saying you can't be happy about being right, but have some respect...

^This^

 

I also think a "good" duelist could be seen not as someone that always wins but someone who keeps pushing forward tries not to give up and tries their hardest to work their way around every situation.

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Well, I personally try to unleash "waves" of attacks if you will.

Build up a strong field in 1-2 turns while regaining hand advantage.

When that field is destroyed I do it again.

 

So I would say I'm conservative.

 

A Good player IMO is someone who takes a general Tier 1 build. Studies exactly what is going on in the meta, then alters that deck do do good against other decks and retain it's initial purpose, i.e. DaD Drain.

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