YCM-kun, can we stop with the fail guides already?

[Mysty]

The Blackwing guide was the worst' date=' though.

 

I don't recall who exactly made that, but I'm pretty sure that he's a bad player.

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You mean Syncrow? I think he made the Blackwing guides.

[Exiro]

The Blackwing guide was the worst' date=' though.

 

I don't recall who exactly made that, but I'm pretty sure that he's a bad player.

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You mean Syncrow? I think he made the Blackwing guides.

 

Oooooooooooooooooooooh of cooooooooooourse it was SYNCROW who made that sucky BW guide! Yeeeeees, now I remember. Syncrow!

[Guest PikaPerson01]

Of course' date=' this only applies to the guides which are actually [i']bad[/i], right?

 

Of course burn-kun! The title explicitly states we only stop with "fail" guides, not ones that actually work! ^_^

 

However, it may be difficult to prove how useful your guide is. ;_;

 

Why not take it to the Stupid Suggestions area ;)

 

Because DoP-kun' date=' the people who read TCG and the people who read Suggestions are two completely different groups. v_v

 

Guide to stop making a guide

1- knowing when to stop:

We all know what a guide does, and how it helps. But here on 4YCM-Kun-Chan/B/, we tend to make guids left to right. But only a few of us have made sucsessfull guides.

 

2- Sucsessfull ways to stop the production of a guide

Its really quite simple. Since your the user who wants to make a guide, simply say to your self: "No, just no." and simply not make the guide in the first place.

 

3- In the event a guide DOES get made, regardless of this topic

Try to assure the user of the guide that it was simply un-needed, and that 4YCM-Kun-Chan/B/ has enough guides as it is, and a guide about your favorite Dragon-Type monster that Kaiba used, is just redundant and un-needed.

 

This has ben a guide on "how to stop making guides", by your fellow 4YCM-Kun-Chan/B/ member, Armadilloz.

 

Please flip this DVD over for exclusive bonus content, that you wont find in any store.

 

I agree with Oni-chan~

 

ITT people incapable of scrolling slightly' date=' or clicking the #2

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Crow-Kun! It's not so much scrolling slightly when they take up the entire first half of the first page. ^_^

 

Bad is relative.

Bad/useless to someone who eats/breathes Yu-Gi-Oh! and spends all day learning stuff for themselves.

Good/useful to someone who has little understanding of a certain archetype and might want to learn about it.

ITT whining know-it-alls

<________>

 

Crow-Kun! The Yu-Gi-Oh wiki is an excellent resource for those who have a little understanding of an archetype. =D

 

Furthermore, when the wiki page is leaps and bounds better then the guides made on this board, it becomes a bit of a problem. =(

 

Lastly, one doesn't really have to be a know it all to read a card, considering half the combos can easily be picked up on by the simple act of reading. ;_;

[Manjoume Thunder]

The Blackwing guide was the worst' date=' though.

 

I don't recall who exactly made that, but I'm pretty sure that he's a bad player.

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You mean Syncrow? I think he made the Blackwing guides.

 

Oooooooooooooooooooooh of cooooooooooourse it was SYNCROW who made that sucky BW guide! Yeeeeees, now I remember. Syncrow!

 

No! The BW guide was great compared to some others *coughmonarchscough*.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

Talking to forums as if they're people? You guys have really gone off the deep end.

[burnpsy]

Of course' date=' this only applies to the guides which are actually [i']bad[/i], right?

 

Of course burn-kun! The title explicitly states we only stop with "fail" guides, not ones that actually work! ^_^

 

However, it may be difficult to prove how useful your guide is. ;_;

 

Actually, the Morphtronic decks posted in the "Your Deck" section since the original version of my guide proved it for me. Every single one posted afterward was either well-built, or filled with people saying to go to my guide. >.<

[RyanAtlus]

i do have a solution' date=' because the strategy forum is dead, why not put them in their?? well they are technically showing you the strategie of the deck. alough im still want these in the deck section because of like i have said before most of the time their is only 1 deck posted with it

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Great Idea.

I aggree.

(And I'm very happy nobody mentioned the depressingly bad Stalling guide when talking about bad guides.)

[Phantom Roxas]

If they fail so much, then how come you can't make one yourself? Owait, I forget that you're too lazy and egotistical to make one.

[Guest PikaPerson01]

If you already knew the answer, why did you bother posting? Oh wait, I forgot that you're a stupid troll who likes to jump into topics in sections you rarely even visit and declare yourself an expert on all the regular members as well as all recent fad topics.

[Crow™]

The Blackwing guide was the worst' date=' though.

I don't recall who exactly made that, but I'm pretty sure that he's a bad player.

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You mean Syncrow? I think he made the Blackwing guides.

Oooooooooooooooooooooh of cooooooooooourse it was SYNCROW who made that sucky BW guide! Yeeeeees, now I remember. Syncrow!

No! The BW guide was great compared to some others *coughmonarchscough*.

So I messed up a bit. You guys don't forgive do you? :/\

All because I made a bad guide doesn't mean I suck at this game.

[Phantom Roxas]

If you already knew the answer' date=' why did you bother posting? Oh wait, I forgot that you're a stupid troll who likes to jump into topics in sections you rarely even visit and declare yourself an expert on all the regular members as well as all recent fad topics.

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I'm not claiming to be an expert, as I do accept that I am far from one. I'm merely questioning why you would say "GTFO and stop failing" to people who are working hard to supply guides in the hopes of benefitting the YGO community. Even if the guides are as bad as you say they are, at least they're trying to help others.

[Manjoume Thunder]

I'm referring to the people who wrote the guides.

 

Ugh my post was deleted for some reason:S

Roxas didn't double post.

 

I was trying to say that some of the guides couldn't help anybody and the posters wanted other people to help them. If someone, instead of learning from the guide, teaches the TC then it would've been better if he wrote the whole guide.

[Phantom Roxas]

Which Pika never did. All she did was say "This guide is fail" and posts a topic saying "To all of you who are so generous to try and help people learn to even play this game, STFU, GTFO, and stop failing".

[Guest JoshIcy]

Uugh... Simple solution.

Since I like to visit this section (to casually, not seriously learn the TCG), I'll move all "Guides" to the Strategy Section. And when I get off my okole, I'll index them too.

 

Happy?

[-Griffin]

Very happy, thanks Icy ^-^

It also helps by giving a new use to a fairly dead sub-section =D

[.:pyramid:.]

Uugh... Simple solution.

Since I like to visit this section (to casually' date=' not seriously learn the TCG), I'll move all "Guides" to the Strategy Section. And when I get off my okole, I'll index them too.

 

Happy?

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did someone steal my idea? tbh i'm just happy someone else read my post by the looks ofr things.

 

also off topic

 

why am i always getting igorned these days, i remeber when i was loved on this site.

 

i'm starting a new trend .:pyramid:. appriecation month

[Guest PikaPerson01]

If you already knew the answer' date=' why did you bother posting? Oh wait, I forgot that you're a stupid troll who likes to jump into topics in sections you rarely even visit and declare yourself an expert on all the regular members as well as all recent fad topics.

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I'm not claiming to be an expert, as I do accept that I am far from one. I'm merely questioning why you would say "GTFO and stop failing" to people who are working hard to supply guides in the hopes of benefitting the YGO community. Even if the guides are as bad as you say they are, at least they're trying to help others.

 

Ah, I think I see the problem then. You make the assumption that:

 

1) They're working hard.

2) They're doing it for the benefit of the community.

 

I believe exactly the opposite. The "fail guides", as I describe, are disgustingly lackluster. A guide consisting of only a list of cards, with each card being followed by a simple regurgitation of effects and a quick "It's good/It's bad". That's not much in terms of hard work, and like I said somewhere else, when the wiki has more information then you do, you need to just quit the guide making business.

 

When I do criticize the guides I see as lacking, I'm typically met with hostility, rather then... even any kind of questions as to why someone would think their guide was inferior, complete with the ever popular: "if you have something to add, then say it". That's not showing me anyone is really working hard.

 

As for working to benefit the Yu-Gi-Oh community, the guides are typically either too specific to help a majority of duelists, or too lacking to possibly be of any help to anyone. So, if they're not working to help the community, what could their goal possibly be? From as far as I can tell, their primary goal is probably + Reps, but I can't tell for sure.

 

Maybe some honestly DID want to help the community, along with hoping for reps, but if so then they didn't do the work to back them up. As far as I can tell, lackluster work in combination with misplaced ambition make for a pretty fail guide.

[Phantom Roxas]

Ah' date=' I think I see the problem then. You make the assumption that:

 

1) They're working hard.

2) They're doing it for the benefit of the community.

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Yes. It's always nice to give the benefit of the doubt to someone who deserves it.

 

I believe exactly the opposite. The "fail guides"' date=' as I describe, are disgustingly lackluster. A guide consisting of only a list of cards, with each card being followed by a simple regurgitation of effects and a quick "It's good/It's bad". That's not much in terms of hard work, and like I said somewhere else, when the wiki has more information then you do, you need to just quit the guide making business.

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Mainly in burnspy and Kuroda's guide, they are focusing on a very specific deck type. I'll agree to the fact that they're just showing the cards and judging whether or not they're good, but they at least compiled a lot of information the wiki takes several links to explain.

 

When I do criticize the guides I see as lacking' date=' I'm typically met with hostility, rather then... even any kind of questions as to why someone would think their guide was inferior, complete with the ever popular: "if you have something to add, then say it". That's not showing me anyone is really working hard.

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You complain that they're not working hard, and yet you don't elaborate on your criticism. If you had given a detailed explanation on your opinion, then others - including me - would hopefully take your criticism more seriously. For example, the first thing that comes to mind is a topic about Kingdom Hearts. Your response?

 

Lol' date=' Kingdom Hearts.

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Did you explain why you had this opinion? No, and therefore you were dismissed. Yes, I understand that a video game and a trading card game are two very different things, but either way, all you do is complain about things so much with little to no explanation that it is the main reason I'm even posting in this topic.

 

As for working to benefit the Yu-Gi-Oh community' date=' the guides are typically either too specific to help a majority of duelists, or too lacking to possibly be of any help to anyone.

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burnspy and Kuroda could have made their guides with the intent of making that very specific deck type more popular. I'm not saying that this was definitely their intent, but it is a possibility. And really, can't guides both be specific while still lacking vital information?

 

So' date=' if they're not working to help the community, what could their goal possibly be? From as far as I can tell, their primary goal is probably + Reps, but I can't tell for sure.

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A reasonable assumption. Another reasonable assumption is the happiness of seeing their favorites decks more popular.

 

Maybe some honestly DID want to help the community' date=' along with hoping for reps, but if so then they didn't do the work to back them up. As far as I can tell, lackluster work in combination with misplaced ambition make for a pretty fail guide.

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No argument there.