tonisanoob Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 well i guess you will all be proved wrong, come sep 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 omg' date=' this card is horrendiously overrated! if you want to get AM out you have to run elphin, and thats terriblethe sheer amount of dedication this deck needs for this card to be wholly effective its mental!the shura combo with this card is the only decent one, as when you get a sorroco in grave later you can sync into an armed wing, however its much easier to just use blizzard, as there is more lv4s in blackwings than there is lv5s i can see how this could potentially work in ls, but the word potential is as far as it goes drawing into either blacking leaves for a huge dead draw, which is the absoloute last thing you want in lightsworn so again no! using this in a norleras build is terrible also, not only does it not ftk as you need 2 turns to get norleras in grave plus enough vayus, and elphins (again running elphin) to otk unless your very lucky, the amound of dead cards youd be drawing is insane so there you go, this card is GREAT if you tech 1 or 2 in standard blackwings, it makes as a nice replacement for gale, but thats it honestly![/quote'] I beg to differ. Sososo much. Vayu Turbo will top at nats.In which way has it been hurt by the banlist? Vayu Turbo runs about 13 ways to get Vayu into the grave, well a decent one does. It is extremely fast, on a par with LS, well a decent one is.NEVER run Vayu in standard BWElphin was only horrible because it doesn't work in standard BW, again use 13 ways to get into Graveyard. Shura fails in Vayu Turbo. http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-148281.html This or PM BtM for their build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 omg' date=' this card is horrendiously overrated! if you want to get AM out you have to run elphin, and thats terriblethe sheer amount of dedication this deck needs for this card to be wholly effective its mental!the shura combo with this card is the only decent one, as when you get a sorroco in grave later you can sync into an armed wing, however its much easier to just use blizzard, as there is more lv4s in blackwings than there is lv5s i can see how this could potentially work in ls, but the word potential is as far as it goes drawing into either blacking leaves for a huge dead draw, which is the absoloute last thing you want in lightsworn so again no! using this in a norleras build is terrible also, not only does it not ftk as you need 2 turns to get norleras in grave plus enough vayus, and elphins (again running elphin) to otk unless your very lucky, the amound of dead cards youd be drawing is insane so there you go, this card is GREAT if you tech 1 or 2 in standard blackwings, it makes as a nice replacement for gale, but thats it honestly![/quote'] I beg to differ. Sososo much. Vayu Turbo will top at nats.In which way has it been hurt by the banlist? Vayu Turbo runs about 13 ways to get Vayu into the grave, well a decent one does. It is extremely fast, on a par with LS, well a decent one is.NEVER run Vayu in standard BWElphin was only horrible because it doesn't work in standard BW, again use 13 ways to get into Graveyard. Shura does well in Vayu Turbo. http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-148281.html This or PM BtM for their build.YOU FORGOT MY BUILD!!! D:http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-144765.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 omg' date=' this card is horrendiously overrated! if you want to get AM out you have to run elphin, and thats terriblethe sheer amount of dedication this deck needs for this card to be wholly effective its mental!the shura combo with this card is the only decent one, as when you get a sorroco in grave later you can sync into an armed wing, however its much easier to just use blizzard, as there is more lv4s in blackwings than there is lv5s i can see how this could potentially work in ls, but the word potential is as far as it goes drawing into either blacking leaves for a huge dead draw, which is the absoloute last thing you want in lightsworn so again no! using this in a norleras build is terrible also, not only does it not ftk as you need 2 turns to get norleras in grave plus enough vayus, and elphins (again running elphin) to otk unless your very lucky, the amound of dead cards youd be drawing is insane so there you go, this card is GREAT if you tech 1 or 2 in standard blackwings, it makes as a nice replacement for gale, but thats it honestly![/quote'] I beg to differ. Sososo much. Vayu Turbo will top at nats.In which way has it been hurt by the banlist? Vayu Turbo runs about 13 ways to get Vayu into the grave, well a decent one does. It is extremely fast, on a par with LS, well a decent one is.NEVER run Vayu in standard BWElphin was only horrible because it doesn't work in standard BW, again use 13 ways to get into Graveyard. Shura does well in Vayu Turbo. http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-148281.html This or PM BtM for their build.YOU FORGOT MY BUILD!!! D:http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-144765.html or Syncrows if you want "Vayu Style" ;) Shura doesnt do well. Ive been testing Vayu decks for a while. Shura should not be run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 basically the deck, focouses around dropping 3, 2300 beatsticks, that dosnt sound amazing the deck would be horifically inconsistent imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 basically the deck' date=' focouses around dropping 3, 2300 beatsticks, that dosnt sound amazing the deck would be horifically inconsistent imo[/quote'] Most of them run 2 Elphin, or less. Have you ever faced a Vayu deck toni? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 well no you can build them yet its just clear, that its not good, norleras was good 2 formats ago with monster gate and reasoning just you will all be kicking yourselfs, once stardust buster is topping nats ;) (joke!) but then the only way we will find out is with the passage of time and i will be looking forward to playing this deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 well no you can build them yet its just clear' date=' that its not good, norleras was good 2 formats ago with monster gate and reasoning just you will all be kicking yourselfs, once stardust buster is topping nats ;) (joke!) but then the only way we will find out is with the passage of time and i will be looking forward to playing this deck[/quote']*scans in my english Vayu* Stardust Buster is made of win though. Norleras can be sent from the deck to the grave and hand, it doesnt need Reasoning etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alordzynix Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 This may sound stupid but how would Vayu work with some kind of Skill Drain Build? I know that you won't be able to use Judgement Dragon or Norleras to nuke the field but you could use Vayu first as a regular tuner and then his effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 omg' date=' this card is horrendiously overrated! if you want to get AM out you have to run elphin, and thats terriblethe sheer amount of dedication this deck needs for this card to be wholly effective its mental!the shura combo with this card is the only decent one, as when you get a sorroco in grave later you can sync into an armed wing, however its much easier to just use blizzard, as there is more lv4s in blackwings than there is lv5s i can see how this could potentially work in ls, but the word potential is as far as it goes drawing into either blacking leaves for a huge dead draw, which is the absoloute last thing you want in lightsworn so again no! using this in a norleras build is terrible also, not only does it not ftk as you need 2 turns to get norleras in grave plus enough vayus, and elphins (again running elphin) to otk unless your very lucky, the amound of dead cards youd be drawing is insane so there you go, this card is GREAT if you tech 1 or 2 in standard blackwings, it makes as a nice replacement for gale, but thats it honestly![/quote'] I beg to differ. Sososo much. Vayu Turbo will top at nats.In which way has it been hurt by the banlist? Vayu Turbo runs about 13 ways to get Vayu into the grave, well a decent one does. It is extremely fast, on a par with LS, well a decent one is.NEVER run Vayu in standard BWElphin was only horrible because it doesn't work in standard BW, again use 13 ways to get into Graveyard. Shura does well in Vayu Turbo. http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-148281.html This or PM BtM for their build.YOU FORGOT MY BUILD!!! D:http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-144765.html or Syncrows if you want "Vayu Style" ;) Shura doesnt do well. Ive been testing Vayu decks for a while. Shura should not be run.Techinically, it's「VAYU 系」. :DAnd for me, Shura works well. Instant LV5 syncrow. @Alordzynix: I considered that....but it doesn't rly work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Vayu only works for Blackwing synchros...There isnt a level 5 BW Synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alordzynix Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Vayu only works for Blackwing synchros...There isnt a level 5 BW Synchro. I think he means a normal synchro summon. Shura negates Vayu's effect so it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 eh, fair enough I still prefer to summon an Armed wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 Vayu only works for Blackwing synchros...There isnt a level 5 BW Synchro. I think he means a normal synchro summon. Shura negates Vayu's effect so it can be done.^Yes.Sync for Catastor then remove Vayu +Sirocco/Elfphin to sync for Armed Wing or Armor Master. Fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 After re-reading this card, I'm certain it sucks. All it does is give you beat sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 After re-reading this card' date=' I'm certain it sucks. All it does is give you beat sticks.[/quote'] While true, just like most other trump cards, when used in a combo, it's fricken pimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 After re-reading this card' date=' I'm certain it sucks. All it does is give you beat sticks.[/quote'] While true, just like most other trump cards, when used in a combo, it's fricken pimp It forces you to run terrible cards! D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 After re-reading this card' date=' I'm certain it sucks. All it does is give you beat sticks.[/quote'] While true, just like most other trump cards, when used in a combo, it's fricken pimp It forces you to run terrible cards! D: You mean like PoC, Norleras, Foolish, BfaDD, BW (in general) are all terrible? Wow, last I checked most of them were atleast decent if not meta worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 After re-reading this card' date=' I'm certain it sucks. All it does is give you beat sticks.[/quote'] While true, just like most other trump cards, when used in a combo, it's fricken pimp It forces you to run terrible cards! D: You mean like PoC, Norleras, Foolish, BfaDD, BW (in general) are all terrible? Wow, last I checked most of them were atleast decent if not meta worthy. Obviously you don't know what this card does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 I know what this card does, but you obviously don't know how to use it in a good deck. The card allows you to special summon BW Synchros from the Extra Deck with their effects negated and when used properly with PoC and Norleras (and sometimes with Plauge + TDC, which isn't hard really) you get an easy OTK that hits hard and fast. If they chain T-roar, well they'll only have the next card they draw to defende them, and there are not great odds on their side that it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 I know what this card does' date=' but you obviously don't know how to use it in a good deck. The card allows you to special summon BW Synchros from the Extra Deck with their effects negated and when used properly with PoC and Norleras (and sometimes with Plauge + TDC, which isn't hard really) you get an easy OTK that hits hard and fast. If they chain T-roar, well they'll only have the next card they draw to defende them, and there are not great odds on their side that it will.[/quote'] Why would BW run PoC and Norleras? What is TDC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber-Valley™ Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Fail card is Fail card, The effect of the Synchro doesn't work, And you can't Synchro it on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 I know what this card does' date=' but you obviously don't know how to use it in a good deck. The card allows you to special summon BW Synchros from the Extra Deck with their effects negated and when used properly with PoC and Norleras (and sometimes with Plauge + TDC, which isn't hard really) you get an easy OTK that hits hard and fast. If they chain T-roar, well they'll only have the next card they draw to defende them, and there are not great odds on their side that it will.[/quote'] Why would BW run PoC and Norleras? What is TDC? *facepalm* TDC = The Dark Creator Also, you don't just splash Vayu into a build, it has it's own deck dedicated to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Hahha Ive been laughing at the fail posts.DAZ I right. tea think about it, You PoC Norleras, Reset the game, filling your grave with Vayus Sirrocos and Elphins to Synchro and OTK. Cyber Valley is doing it wrOng. I run this IRL, I've been doing so much playtesting it's unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 it isn't that good, and your just using it to otk just like DSF. because of that, I bet this card will follow the same path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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