Cyber Altair Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-360-fail-rate-54-percent-says-game-informer-survey-144557.phtml And there's the 45% or so that have had to fix the console again after the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 This is another reason I don't want a 360. Really that is just bad on Microsoft’s part since this has been a problem from day one and you'd think that by now they'd have most of the kinks worked out. Cause really, 54% is simply ridiculous. Also, on the topic of Wii, and PS3 failures, I'd say the PS3 is more in the acceptable range, granted still a bit high. The Wii is in the range of what I'd say is good (IMO it being 5%-8%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 yes but keep in mind the user's stated they use it a lot less than the PS3. Something small as the Wii would surely overheat should a person play on it for quite some times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyire Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Meh, they both suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Oh dear, If my XBox 360 fails, I might consider buying a Wii or PS3, most likely the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 This is a fairly biased test, seeing as everyone interviewed was selected from a gaming community, and probably play for extended periods of time, increasing the risk of overheat. Also, seeing as there was no way of assuring honesty, there will have been many who answered yes for ulterior reasons (ie, not liking the XBox 360). I think a fairer measure of the fail rate would be Microsoft's official statement saying pre-Jasper, non-Elite models had a failure rate of 32% within their first three years. This was at the beginning of this fiscal year, so the number may have crept to high 30%s, and very possibly early 40%s, but 54% is an exaggerated number, and should not be trusted. Having said that, have a failure rate of between 35 and 40% is not good by anyone's books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dictator7 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 It's called the red ring of death. That happens when the console gets over heated and malfunctions. It only happens in the older models. But that problem is easily fixed. All you need to do is put another fan on the back of the console, and it will keep it cool. I don't know how to put it on, because my dad did it to ours. But that fan really works. I would rather have better graphics/sound effects. So I will put up with that small little malfunction that is easily fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Mine broke and I hardly ever touch the thing. Then when I sent it off to GERMANY I had to put it in a box so nobody could tell what it was. I didn't even get the same one back. On a side note, do we have any percentages on the Elite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 This is a fairly biased test' date=' seeing as everyone interviewed was selected from a gaming community, and probably play for extended periods of time, increasing the risk of overheat. Also, seeing as there was no way of assuring honesty, there will have been many who answered yes for ulterior reasons (ie, not liking the XBox 360). I think a fairer measure of the fail rate would be Microsoft's official statement saying pre-Jasper, non-Elite models had a failure rate of 32% within their first three years. This was at the beginning of this fiscal year, so the number may have crept to high 30%s, and very possibly early 40%s, but 54% is an exaggerated number, and should not be trusted. Having said that, have a failure rate of between 35 and 40% is not good by anyone's books.[/quote'] This is Game Informer not your usual dumb magazine. Also the gaming systems were made for the hardcore gamers, they should be able to handle 5-6 hours. Previous generation consoles did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I don't rate Game Informer very highly, Cyber Altair. We're talking about a magazine owned by a company whose parent company is a games store, you are almost certain to find inherent bias in many of their articles. Plus, you shouldn't be playing for more than about an hour with a fifteen minute break in the middle for health reasons, never mind over-heating. You can get circulation problems from remaining in one position for too long. Besides, this problem is fairly irrelevant now, the Jasper Model does not RRoD (or at least, it has a massively reduced failure rate that puts it back with the Wii and PS3 for reliability), and the newer Elites are similarly fixed. While it was a stupid move for Microsoft to release software that wasn't ready yet, fixed software has now been released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdog1243 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Hey if a old super nes could handle me and my freind beating every game we had for it ( like 25 )a newer sytem should be able to handle it.I can't play though all of LOZTP in one siting on my wiiI can't play though all of Halo 3 in one siting on my xbox360I cant get though 1/4 of obliven in one siting on my PS3All becasue of overheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I don't rate Game Informer very highly' date=' Cyber Altair. We're talking about a magazine owned by a company whose parent company is a games store, you are almost certain to find inherent bias in many of their articles. Plus, you shouldn't be playing for more than about an hour with a fifteen minute break in the middle for health reasons, never mind over-heating. You can get circulation problems from remaining in one position for too long. Besides, this problem is fairly irrelevant now, the Jasper Model does not RRoD (or at least, it has a massively reduced failure rate that puts it back with the Wii and PS3 for reliability), and the newer Elites are similarly fixed. While it was a stupid move for Microsoft to release software that wasn't ready yet, fixed software has now been released.[/quote'] Nobody died from playing too long. Well longer than 15 hours but anyway console's shouldn't be made to work for 1-2 hours than you have to turn it off or it'll break. Also GI is most probably the best gaming magazine out there now that EGM isn't and it isn't gonna purposely trash the reputation of a console never mind one which they are big money from unless they're being fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Shockingly, this is no shock. I just received 2 calls from 2 different friends in the past week that their XBOX 360 of less than 15 months had to be returned. 54% is a bit too high, and I still wonder why people take these risks and buy the XBOX. :/ I can play my Wii for up to 4 hours in a row (maybe a 10-minute food break, but it's still on and the game is on, no one is playing, however) without the slightest problem, but after 4 hours I get a bit scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Shockingly' date=' this is no shock. I just received 2 calls from 2 different friends in the past week that their XBOX 360 of less than 15 months had to be returned. 54% is a bit too high, and I still wonder why people take these risks and buy the XBOX. :/ I can play my Wii for up to 4 hours in a row (maybe a 10-minute food break, but it's still on and the game is on, no one is playing, however) without the slightest problem, but after 4 hours I get a bit scared.[/quote'] Pussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 lol, I'd rather NOT have my Wii overheat, and I can't find anything on how long a Wii can last running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 lol' date=' I'd rather NOT have my Wii overheat, and I can't find anything on how long a Wii can last running.[/quote'] Then why not find out ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 If my XBox dies Altair, would you kindly kill me for arguing with you about PS3 vs. 360? But mine is a Jasper, hopefully it will not break. I am getting slightly mad at Micro$oft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
problematica Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I don't rate Game Informer very highly' date=' Cyber Altair. We're talking about a magazine owned by a company whose parent company is a games store, you are almost certain to find inherent bias in many of their articles. Plus, you shouldn't be playing for more than about an hour with a fifteen minute break in the middle for health reasons, never mind over-heating. You can get circulation problems from remaining in one position for too long. Besides, this problem is fairly irrelevant now, the Jasper Model does not RRoD (or at least, it has a massively reduced failure rate that puts it back with the Wii and PS3 for reliability), and the newer Elites are similarly fixed. While it was a stupid move for Microsoft to release software that wasn't ready yet, fixed software has now been released.[/quote'] Nobody died from playing too long. Well longer than 15 hours but anyway console's shouldn't be made to work for 1-2 hours than you have to turn it off or it'll break. Also GI is most probably the best gaming magazine out there now that EGM isn't and it isn't gonna purposely trash the reputation of a console never mind one which they are big money from unless they're being fair. What GI is does not change the fact that there is likely a high chance of lieing in part of Playstation owners that claim that they own a 360 and that it failed, they don't know who owns what unless they ask and even then they can be lied to. Also, taking in that they asked 5,000 readers without any specific numbers as to the total for each console really makes you wonder about the true range of just how many are failing. As Deucalion stated, a more accurate number would be from Microsoft itself. They know exactly how many people own 360s and how many of them are failing. Also, as Deucalion pointed out again, a majority of these problems are already fixed and the ones that are failing are just the ones that are too old to have all the fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver The Hedgehog Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 (vಠ.ಠ) well, thats great...just when I finally get a xbox for the first time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted August 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Did you think of the large majority who mod the 360? I'd love to see them send the 360 for repairs so Microsoft can count there numbers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 yes but keep in mind the user's stated they use it a lot less than the PS3. Something small as the Wii would surely overheat should a person play on it for quite some times.I can understand the lesser use of the PS3 would make it's fail rate lower (If memory serves this does, or did, have some problems with overheating. As for the Wii though, I've been able to play mine for hours on end and the only time it overheated was my own fault because I ended up breaking to cooling fans. Hell I think it was Dragon Master that would simply leave his Wii on all day and nothing bad would happen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire Wolf Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 [align=center]I don't know how many times My 360 has had a Red ring, i don't go on it that much now, i mainly go on my ps3, hasn't even broken once, ive had it for awhile, While my 360 has had a red rign and wouldn't turn on 5 times, No wounder the fail rate on the 360 is that high..[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I did an 11 hour Smash Bros./Mario Kart marathon on my Wii without turning it off ONCE and nothing happened. And it was in the middle of Summer and the Air-Con in our house had broken. Games Informer is a trustworthy magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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