Max Darkness Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Because I'm interested in the maritime innovations that occured; such as the development of the second type of ironclad (USS Monitor and CSS Virginia) compared to HMS Warrior. But what is annoying is that the writer is imagining a battle between USS Monitor and HMS Warrior. The set-up is that the British Empire has joined the side of the Confederacy to secure its cotton exports (which is what Lincoln's Anaconda Plan was designed to stop) and has set its two flagships HMS Warrior and HMS Black Prince to assist. Somewhere near Richmond (capitol of Virginia), the Monitor has intercepted the Warrior and starts fighting. Now, in the book, the battle is an even clash before the Monitor gains an upper hand by firing at point blanc range a few times, almost crippling Warrior. That's what's annoying me. In reality, the British would never have got involved in the Civil War, since there was no gain for us. Then, even if the two had met, the Warrior would have crushed the Monitor, possibly literally. It had a larger number of, and more powerful guns; better armour; was faster and could turn more rapidly; and if all that failed, it could just run the Monitor over, considering it was almost 80 times heavier than the American ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Pheonix Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Thats a very good point. I always was wondering why Britain was involved, they had no gain. After the war, nothing changed with them, they lost nothing, they gained nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ursus Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Shout away. I'm really looking forward to this big tournament on thursday. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Well, the American Civil War is something I learned about last year. Interesting time period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolwhy Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Yup, it is interesting. I've always been a buff about the Civil War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Hubo algunas tácticas interesantes. Creo que fue el primer incidente moderno de la guerra total. Translation: There were some interesting tactics. I think it was the first modern incident of total war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 He guys I'm back. PS. I'm hereby anouncing that I can't be as active in this club as I want to be though to RL things I have to do.Ths means that I can only post late at night (my time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ursus Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I'll have to sign off for tonight. See ya tomorrow. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted June 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 @ Striker: The American Civil War was the first Modern War. It was World War One that was the first Total War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 Hell NDLites.... Its been a while...any new cards or fan-fics up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 I believe you are mistaken Max. There was an incident of total war in the Civil War. There is two definitions. 1. Destroying everything that your opponent has. 2. Using all your resources for the war effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master White Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Wow, within one day, 4 pages has came about. Oh well. @Necro: Yea, but I won't be on as often, b/c I am not at school, but thats alright. @Max: Well, thats cool, and I think I made an Double Accel Sycnhro, finally. The problem is whether or not I'm done with it, which I'm sure I am not done with it. @anyone: I'm off to finish that one card. and etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Max is this book fictional or no? I do believe the brits got involved in the war, I'll check my history textbook... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Darkness Posted June 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 @ Striker: In the American Civil War, neither side used all their resources. There were large tracts of the the mid-west and western areas of the US that saw no combat whatsoever. In fact, almost all the fighting was concentrated around Richmond in Virginia. Also, the Union did not destroy all the Confederacy had (large areas of Texas and Alabama were untouched) and they did not use all their resources to do it (some western states didn't even mobilise). The third definition of 'Total War' is a war in which anyone is a target. In World War I that was fulfilled. Civilian casulities were the highest of any war that had proceeded. And both sides exhausted all their industry and money to defeat the other. The American Civil War was the first modern war (use of Ironclads, balloons and heavy armament), but not the first total war. @ Whamo: This book is real. The story is based on possible events. The British never got involved. We were too busy with our empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Pheonix Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Hello everyone, I'm sorry that I wasnt on yesterday, but I feel I should explain why. So, someone my mom works with, a friend of ours, commited suicide yesterday by shooting himself in the head. Other staff members found him in the woods that day and my mom, who was at home, got the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Man that sucks, did you knew him very well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Pheonix Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Not entirely well, but he was always extremely nice, and would drop whatever he was doing to say hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Then it is a loss to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Pheonix Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Yeah, it is, and I didnt get any sleep at all last night because whenever I closed my eyes I saw images of him there with the gun and it played through his death. No matter what I did, all night, I saw it over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 During the American Civil War' date=' U.S. Army General Phillip Sheridan's stripping of the Shenandoah Valley, beginning on September 21, 1864 and continuing for two weeks, was considered "total war". Its purpose was to eliminate foodstuffs and supplies vital to the South's military operations, as well as to strike a blow at Southern civilian morale. Sheridan took the opportunity when he realized opposing forces had become too weak to resist his army. Union Army General William Tecumseh Sherman's 'March to the Sea' in November/December 1864 destroyed the resources required for the South to make war. Sherman is considered one of the first military commanders to deliberately and consciously use total war as a military strategy. General Ulysses S. Grant and President Abraham Lincoln initially opposed the plan until Sherman convinced them of its necessity.[/quote'] Enjoy reading this Max. A counter argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 @Necro: Seriously, I never had such things when someone died/commited suicide.I hope it will pass with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Sorry to hear about that Necro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexadin Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Yeah, it sucked.Anyways, I hate pagehider and I'm off for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necro Pheonix Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Thank you guys. I think all I need to do right now is talk to my friends, it always cheers me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael D. Striker Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Well, I'm on right now. Topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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