Phantom Roxas Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 >Call of the Haunted limited>Chaos Sorcerer semi-limited You think Chaos Sorcerer is balanced? You think Call of the Haunted is balanced? It's more balanced than Monster Reborn at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 I just noticed that they Limited Gale instead of Black Whirlwind. For shame' date=' Konami! Also, 3 Breaker is just nonsense. >Call of the Haunted limited>Chaos Sorcerer semi-limited You think Chaos Sorcerer is balanced? You think Call of the Haunted is balanced? What's wrong with Call?How is generic revival good. How pretentious of you. Prove that generic revival is bad. inb4Igetcalledanoob.Why should it be me to prove it's bad? Besides what kind of augments can you give that being able to summon any monster from the grave at little cost to no cost is good for the game? The burden of proof is the obligation to shift the assumed conclusion away from an oppositional opinion to one's own position. The burden of proof may only be fulfilled by evidence. You want generic revival gone so bad' date=' but you don't prove how it harms the game. GTFO.[/quote']Yes, please GTFO. Read my post again. I clearly said why generic revival is bad for the game. Being able to summon any monster from the grave at little to no cost is simply ridiculous. If you still want more that ability offers nothing to the game while at the same time removing skill because it takes away any impact of destroying any monster your opponent may summon because they can easily just bring it back. So, why please tell me why you think generic revival should stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 The offical list gave me cancer. Don't get me wrong, the bans and unlimiting of some cards are nice, but really now... And Chaos Sorcerer @ 2 will never make sense when they just gave all these D.D. Warrior Ladies and Breakers to use to fuel it...hell' date=' Chaos Sorcerer @ 2 will never make sense no matter how you look at it. [/quote'] I think Konami didn't found banworty, because of Caius. Chaos Sorcerer only has 2300 ATK and cannot attack when he used it's effect and can only remove face-up monsters.Caius has 2400 ATK, can attack immediatly afterwards after using it's effect and can remove anything and inflict burn damage. But Konami fails to see that Chaos Sorcerer can be Special Summoned without any problem, while Caius needs to be Tribute Summoned.Also, Chaos Sorcerer can use it's effect multiply times, while Caius can only use it when Tribute Summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Withe everyone raving about CS...I might as well have a go at Chaos Countdown! ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise of the Eldrazi Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 DSF and CCV at 0 makes me happy... And with Breaker and CS at 3 my Endymion deck will RAEP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 just sold my ccv for £85, lol hes gonna be pissed when our locals puts up the new list XD i made £55 on that card so im happy. just need a third breaker now. also rat-box is now tier 2 by the looks of things (natzi commander + breaker=arcanite magician) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 DSF and CCV at 0 makes me happy... And with Breaker and CS at 3 my Endymion deck will RAEP! Chaos Sorcerer will be at 2.What are you smoking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 I just noticed that they Limited Gale instead of Black Whirlwind. For shame' date=' Konami! Also, 3 Breaker is just nonsense. >Call of the Haunted limited>Chaos Sorcerer semi-limited You think Chaos Sorcerer is balanced? You think Call of the Haunted is balanced? What's wrong with Call?How is generic revival good. How pretentious of you. Prove that generic revival is bad. inb4Igetcalledanoob.Why should it be me to prove it's bad? Besides what kind of augments can you give that being able to summon any monster from the grave at little cost to no cost is good for the game? The burden of proof is the obligation to shift the assumed conclusion away from an oppositional opinion to one's own position. The burden of proof may only be fulfilled by evidence. You want generic revival gone so bad' date=' but you don't prove how it harms the game. GTFO.[/quote']Yes, please GTFO. Read my post again. I clearly said why generic revival is bad for the game. Being able to summon any monster from the grave at little to no cost is simply ridiculous. If you still want more that ability offers nothing to the game while at the same time removing skill because it takes away any impact of destroying any monster your opponent may summon because they can easily just bring it back. So, why please tell me why you think generic revival should stay? Okay, I just reread your post. I see now, How could I have been so blind! Asking a question in the form of a statement! That obviously means you are correct. Also, learn to read. I never said generic revival is good for the game. I asked for prove on why you are right. So stfu, bk bar. But for sake of arguments, I will give you a counter argument. On a 3/0 list(which is what I am assuming what you would make these assumptions. I am also assuming we are talking about "Call of the Haunted", for "generic revival." "Call of the Haunted" is obvious a continuous trap, so it is prone to removal like "Trap Eater", "Mystical Space Typhoon", and on certain 3/0 lists "Heavy Storm." Does this make it "balanced?" Not really. What makes Call deadly? Well, I can get any monster, right? If the list is "balanced" then any monster I get should be balanced, and not over powered. How is this bad for the game? Many people say "you can play it in your battle phase and win that turn!" Okay, so you were in a winning position, and then you sealed the win with another card. It's not like your opponent could do anything against a proper board, in which you would activate Call. Another argument is "you can revive a strong monster and stop your opponent's battle phase." So, then it's an improved Threatening Roar, that brings you back a monster, and then use it next turn. What's wrong with that, honestly? The worst you could do(sack wise) is to get something like Stratos or another popular @1 monster. You could also grab a lolatk monster. So, if your opponent was in a winning position, and lost to one card, then they weren't in a winning position, now were they? Honestly, respond to if you want, I just wanted to call you on your pretentiousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesCrow Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 ITTTwo sides of a useless argument.o waitthat's the entire internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 >Call of the Haunted limited>Chaos Sorcerer semi-limited You think Chaos Sorcerer is balanced? You think Call of the Haunted is balanced?Chaos Sorcerer's case is far easier to argue, so I only took issue with it. I think that all three of the revival cards are bannable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xazeon Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 This sucks. They completely ruined my newest deck! Although, some of there choices aren't that bad. They should've Semi'd or Limit'd REDRUM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yugiohrulez! Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 How do you know this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 This sucks. They completely ruined my newest deck! Although' date=' some of there choices aren't [i']that[/i] bad. They should've Semi'd or Limit'd REDRUM. NO. Just cuz I kicked your ass with him :3 HOPELESS DRAGONS FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 This list seems very fake, but if it does happen to be the case, anyone interested in buying my cards can contact me through PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 This list seems very fake' date=' [b'] It was confirmed [/b]but if it does happen to be the case, anyone interested in buying my cards can contact me through PM. Ugh. Spam? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 This list seems very fake' date=' but if it does happen to be the case, anyone interested in buying my cards can contact me through PM.[/quote'] But you're Static.THAT Static. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 >Call of the Haunted limited>Chaos Sorcerer semi-limited Could someone make me a pic which says "This fucks me up"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Shouldn't the word "Rumored" be swapped out for "Confirmed" in the thread title? It's misleading. But seriously, someone please name a deck that wasn't weakened by this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 But seriously' date=' someone please name a deck that wasn't weakened by this list?[/quote']Heroes? *gets shot* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull3tM0nk3y Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Banned:Monster RebornCrush Card VirusCard of Safe ReturnDark Strike Fighter Restricted:Call of the HauntedJudgment DragonBlackwing - Gale the WhirlwindCold WaveSolemn JudgmentMind ControlSummoner MonkRescue CatDemise' date=' King of ArmageddonBlack Rose Dragon Semi-Restricted:HonestChaos Sorcerer[u']Bottomless Trap Hole[/u]Mezuki Unrestricted:Raiza the Storm MonarchGreen Baboon, Defender of the ForestFissureMask of DarknessDestiny DrawBreaker the Magical WarriorD.D. Warrior Lady If like this: THANK GOD!If like this: That just great... [/sarcasm]If like this: OM#G you have GOT to be kidding me. WHY GOD, WHY?!?!!? Okay komani just great and yet, E.V.I.L or as some people call it[align=center]EveryVillainIs Lemons [/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Shouldn't the word "Rumored" be swapped out for "Confirmed" in the thread title? It's misleading. But seriously' date=' someone please name a deck that wasn't weakened by this list?[/quote'] Final Countdown. But anyway, our Agent 004 leads a double life: promoting the usage of archetypes - and utterly destroying them. + goes to PNAC +I'm really' date=' really lost while looking at this banlist...so Solemn is at 1 now because...half your lifepoints apparently wasn't a fair cost for stopping anything? Breaker is at 3 because...players complained about S/T destruction and instead of banning Heavy Storm like many wanted, they simply unlimited Breaker? D.D. Warrior Lady and Fissure @ 3 because...the game needs that much removal now? And Card of Safe Return being banned makes me weep... And Chaos Sorcerer @ 2 will never make sense when they just gave all these D.D. Warrior Ladies and Breakers to use to fuel it...hell, Chaos Sorcerer @ 2 will never make sense no matter how you look at it. Also, maybe it's just me but Call seems kinda worthless with MST, Heavy Storm, and now a colorful playset of Breakers running around.[/quote'] Here's to thinking. 1. They - Konami - might've thought: "Call's SO FUCKIN' BAD, we might as well unlimit Breaker and semi CS!" (If you're not laughing, don't look at me. I'm bein' serious.) 2. In all fairness, both DDWL and Fissure are 1-1 monster removal. 3. CoSR deserves its whippin' day. Why not? In decks that already have a massive amount of bodies and firepower, CoSR adds fuel to the fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolTama Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 lol...wait... since Kitty, Gale, and Judge are all at 1, does this mean Glads are back on top? TBQH, this has to be failnomi's worst list in awhile. Breaker at 3? BRD at 1? Solemn at 1!?! It astounds me that they hurt Bottomless and Solemn, but failed to do a thing to Prison. Also, Mezuki's back @ 2. Zombie World + Foolish + Uru/Aslla + Mezuki = Profit? So, back to my original question; what's gonna be the meta now that the meta's key cards are @ 1? My money's on SD/AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Banned:Monster RebornCrush Card VirusCard of Safe ReturnDark Strike Fighter Restricted:Call of the HauntedJudgment DragonBlackwing - Gale the WhirlwindCold WaveSolemn JudgmentMind ControlSummoner MonkRescue CatDemise' date=' King of ArmageddonBlack Rose Dragon Semi-Restricted:HonestChaos Sorcerer[u']Bottomless Trap Hole[/u]Mezuki Unrestricted:Raiza the Storm MonarchGreen Baboon, Defender of the ForestFissureMask of DarknessDestiny DrawBreaker the Magical WarriorD.D. Warrior Lady [align=right]If like this: THANK GOD!If like this: That just great... [/sarcasm]If like this: OM#G you have GOT to be kidding me. WHY GOD, WHY?!?!!? Okay komani just great and yet, E.V.I.L or as some people call itEveryVillainIs Lemons[/align] If like this: quoted person is bad at this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Shouldn't the word "Rumored" be swapped out for "Confirmed" in the thread title? It's misleading. But seriously' date=' someone please name a deck that wasn't weakened by this list?[/quote'] Final Countdown. HELL YEAH! My Deckhasn't been kicked in the balls by the list, but it surely trip^ped over it while it was rofling the meta.It's going to be Chaos Countdown from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 To be fair, This list could have been worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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