Skyfi Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Discuss where it belongs on the ban list when released. I say Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCodyPwns Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 it would have to be limited, or else Synchro Cat would be devestating the current meta *more so than now* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I think @1 is fine. TC: you should do a poll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 It is Limited in Japan who pretty much shares the list with us so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 You people really are clueless. Synchros and Fusions should NEVER go to 1. They are 3 or 0. Putting them at 1 changes NOTHING. On Topic: It should be at 3. Also, IT"S ALREADY AT 1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 It should be banned as it is used for no purpose other than to facilitate OTKs. Also, everyone who said it should be limited is retarded. People ONLY USE ONE COPY for the OTKs, so WHAT THE HELL DOES LIMITING IT CHANGE?! Nothing! Have you EVER seen a case where it benefited someone to summon two of these instead of one and Goyo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkillzKill Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 You people really are clueless. Synchros and Fusions should NEVER go to 1. They are 3 or 0. Putting them at 1 changes NOTHING. On Topic: It should be at 3. Also' date=' IT"S ALREADY AT 1![/quote'] I agree with most of this post, however, Brionac should be at 0, not 3. If you think not, then please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 So of course Konami is going to limit DSF. On topic:Banned. I wouldn't want to see another DSF like episode where the opponent summons Brionac, clears the field, and then brings Plague back for another Synchro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 The reasons why he shouldn't be banned is because his effect only comes at a cost, meaning to use it your the only person lossing advantage. Also to clear the field enough to OTK with him you need a large enough hand to clear your opponent's field and enough field presence to go for the OTK. Odds of being able to do both is unlikely. Now comes the fact that alone he only does a bit more then 1/4 damage and he is easy to run over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 It is by no means unlikely you won't be able to do an OTK with this. Sure, Heavy Storm might be a bit better, but this you can bring out at the drop of a hat and you will usually have enough to clear your opponent's back row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Limiting Fusions and Synchros does make an impact, but not nearly enough of one. Ban, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 It is by no means unlikely you won't be able to do an OTK with this. Sure' date=' Heavy Storm might be a bit better, but this you can bring out at the drop of a hat and you will usually have enough to clear your opponent's back row.[/quote']Ok, now you just wasted, lets say 2 cards, to clear it. What now if you can't finish your opponent? If you can't all that happens is our opponent goes and they just replay those 2 cards. Also cut back on the negatives I don't know what you mean. When using his effect it will only make an impact if 1) you end the duel right then and their, which is hard to do in 1 turn or 2) You remove something that is a pain to get out such as synchros fusions, and nomis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 It is by no means unlikely you won't be able to do an OTK with this. Sure' date=' Heavy Storm might be a bit better, but this you can bring out at the drop of a hat and you will usually have enough to clear your opponent's back row.[/quote']Yes, now you just wasted, lets say 2 cards, to clear it. You can't finish your opponent. Your opponent goes and they just replay those 2 cards. When using his effect it will only make an impact if 1) you end the duel right then and their, which is hard to do in 1 turn or 2) You remove something that is a pain to get out such as synchros fusions, and nomis. That's why I said he's ONLY USEFUL IN OTKS! His complete ineffectiveness in doing anything else is what gives him no redeeming qualities. He exists to OTK and that is not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 It is by no means unlikely you won't be able to do an OTK with this. Sure' date=' Heavy Storm might be a bit better, but this you can bring out at the drop of a hat and you will usually have enough to clear your opponent's back row.[/quote']Yes, now you just wasted, lets say 2 cards, to clear it. You can't finish your opponent. Your opponent goes and they just replay those 2 cards. When using his effect it will only make an impact if 1) you end the duel right then and their, which is hard to do in 1 turn or 2) You remove something that is a pain to get out such as synchros fusions, and nomis. That's why I said he's ONLY USEFUL IN OTKS! His complete ineffectiveness in doing anything else is what gives him no redeeming qualities. He exists to OTK and that is not a good thing.Yes, but to OTK with him you need a decent sized hand and enough field presence to do so. Having oth at the same time is hard since gaining one comes at the cost of another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 You people really are clueless. Synchros and Fusions should NEVER go to 1. They are 3 or 0. Putting them at 1 changes NOTHING. On Topic: It should be at 3. Also' date=' IT"S ALREADY AT 1![/quote'] Dude, everything should be at 3 or 0. Except Malicious, Night Assailant, and Stratos. Oh, and I'm not going to post my opinion because I'm too busy playing flash games to continuously spew out my futile arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 You people really are clueless. Synchros and Fusions should NEVER go to 1. They are 3 or 0. Putting them at 1 changes NOTHING. On Topic: It should be at 3. Also' date=' IT"S ALREADY AT 1![/quote'] Dude, everything should be at 3 or 0. Except Malicious, Night Assailant, and Stratos. Oh, and I'm not going to post my opinion because I'm too busy playing flash games to continuously spew out my futile arguments. Their are a few other cards that should be at 1, but, yea, most cards are 3 or 0. Also he does have other uses side from OTK. As I said, he counters synchros fusions, and nomis very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Also he does have other uses side from OTK. As I said' date=' he counters synchros fusions, and nomis very well.[/quote'] I didn't say he didn't. =P Not that I can remember anyway, I might've in some other thread, but w/e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 this + degenerate circuit = opponent is doomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Also he does have other uses side from OTK. As I said' date=' he counters synchros fusions, and nomis very well.[/quote'] I didn't say he didn't. =P Not that I can remember anyway, I might've in some other thread, but w/e.I wasn't talking to you any more. I was talking to GenzoTheHarpist. He had said that his only use was OTK and I showed he does have a use side from being a beatstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbra Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Stardust REALLY hates this card. I would say BAN. I have seen enough of Brionac to know that it can turn games. With enough cards in the hand, Brionac is a gift that keeps on giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raikoh Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Ban it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Stardust REALLY hates this card. I would say BAN. I have seen enough of Brionac to know that it can turn games. With enough cards in the hand' date=' Brionac is a gift that keeps on giving.[/quote'] Again though, your the only person lossing. Any Spell or Traps will just be replayed during your opponent's next turn and most monster can easily be summoned again (again unless you end the game right then and their). However, if your hand is that large odds are you have very few monsters on the field and will be unable to win that turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Except brionac is almost never summoned except when the owner has game. People summon him to facilitate an OTK hand they already have. Nobody summons him if they think it's going to be a wasted effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Except brionac is almost never summoned except when the owner has game. People summon him to facilitate an OTK hand they already have. Nobody summons him if they think it's going to be a wasted effort.In a good format, an OTK hand won't be easy to come by. Also it would be nice to have you show some of the OTKs he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 It should be banned as it is used for no purpose other than to facilitate OTKs. Also' date=' everyone who said it should be limited is retarded. People ONLY USE ONE COPY for the OTKs, so WHAT THE HELL DOES LIMITING IT CHANGE?! Nothing! Have you EVER seen a case where it benefited someone to summon two of these instead of one and Goyo?[/quote'] Well 2 Dark Strike Fighters won Nats... if DFS was limited the OTK wouldnt have occured. Anyway Ive seen this card win me more games in my Sept 2008 format TeleDAD in WC09 than Dark Armed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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