Mister Sir Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 what if he had 1000 attack would he be not broken anymore? All of your posts in here make it sound like you've never heard of this. Anyways' date=' I don't see the issue with leaving it where it is. It may be a free SS, but how often does it serve a good purpose in decks? Most decks can't find room for him, and thus he is a minor problem.[/quote'] Vice Dragon is DARK. Your argument is invalid. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xazeon Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 This card rewards bad play. Banable, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 what if he had 1000 attack would he be not broken anymore? All of your posts in here make it sound like you've never heard of this. Anyways' date=' I don't see the issue with leaving it where it is. It may be a free SS, but how often does it serve a good purpose in decks? Most decks can't find room for him, and thus he is a minor problem.[/quote']In a good meta things would be very different then they are now. what if he had 1000 attack would he be not broken anymore? not really as long as he is level 5 because he provides instand sycnhs. and if he was level 4 still broken level 3 only a little bit but not really and 2 and under not reallyBeing good with synchros doesn't make it so he should go to 0, or even 1. If that was the case, even easy Special Summon monster that is at least level 2 or 3 would need to have something done about them. Plus there are many spell that grant monster, Instant Fusion is a good example, and it is pointless to do something about all these cards. If synchros are the problem, ban the problematic synchros not the cards that help to summon them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 first turn monarchs and field swarmsinstant lvl 7-8 synchrospunishes your opponent for, of all things, summoning a monster.rewards you for having no field presence.involved in otks and ftks. if it had the clause:can only be special'd main phase 2it might be so much fairer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Everyone clamoring for the banning of Cyber Dragon because monarchs exist is INCREDIBLY dim. If you make the argument because of monarchs, you also make the argument that Instant Fusion as well as Fiend's Sanctuary are bannable, and to a lesser extent Emergency Teleport and Flute of Summoning Kuriboh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Everyone clamoring for the banning of Cyber Dragon because monarchs exist is INCREDIBLY dim. If you make the argument because of monarchs' date=' you also make the argument that Instant Fusion as well as Fiend's Sanctuary are bannable, and to a lesser extent Emergency Teleport and Flute of Summoning Kuriboh.[/quote'] i completely agree with this.. seriously, CyDra isnt as big of a threat as it once was. if it were at two i dont think anyone else would be in a mad dash to get back the ones they traded/stuck in their binders to add them to their decks again.. CyDra is cool, but maining him in every deck? No.. that's just noobish.. As stated, the only reason that CyDra could possibly deserve being on the Limit List is that he can be used with Synchros. But so can a multitude of other cards, such as the above, Scapegoat, heck even Marauding Captain. i personally like Marauding Captain better than CyDra.. Anywho, my personal belief is that it should drop down to two. it only makes sense.. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I like how you agreed with me, and posted pretty much the opposite of the way I feel about Cyber Dragon. <_< It's not that "lol, its got Synchros" and "lol, it's got monarchs", but it's that it's a "lolbeatstick" that runs over just about any commonly run level 4 monster. It punishes your opponent for playing well enough to get you to have no monsters, as well as rewarding you for playing poorly and allowing yourself to be left wide open for an attack. It's bannable in the same way that Gorz is bannable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kale Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I like how you agreed with me' date=' and posted pretty much the opposite of the way I feel about Cyber Dragon. <_< It's not that "lol, its got Synchros" and "lol, it's got monarchs", but it's that it's a "lolbeatstick" that runs over just about any commonly run level 4 monster. It punishes your opponent for playing well enough to get you to have no monsters, as well as rewarding you for playing poorly and allowing yourself to be left wide open for an attack. It's bannable in the same way that Gorz is bannable.[/quote'] i was actually agreeing with the point you brought up with the fact everyone wants it banned for that reason, nothing more. The way you wrote it, without the tid bit above this text, could make it seem inferred either way. ;) anywho, i understand your reasoning with this added bit, and i feel almost the same. but i also raise the question of why should we remove the few cards that can allow a person a comeback in those situations? I understand the banning of cards that dont allow your opponent a chance, like DaD or what have you, and i can see banning Gorz for the unexpectedness and the extra effect of either getting a Token for free or damaging your opponent, but CyDra isnt even in that league anymore. if it were at 2 i dont know if the entire community would rush to main it. CyDra just doesnt seem as powerful as it once was, and it is way weaker than Gorz. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 But that's a rather poor way of looking at it, in terms of it being "more bannable" or "less bannable". If that argument worked, one could say that Pot of Greed should be unlimited, because it's not as broken as Chaos Emperor Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 instant fusion at least has a cost.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDark72 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Reading all of this over.... Cyber Dragon, should be banned because He's an easy to summon beatstick? Hm.. and I thought it was only His fusions that were the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 his fusions are only a problem because of the otks. i think this is a disgusting meta we live in where a 21 freebie isnt considered good enough to be stapled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinobiDark72 Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 As far as I cna tell, this meta sucks for most decks. Cyber dragon was never staple, he was very splashabale yes, but not a staple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 wellderp i know. but hes very... splashable.and its sad that in this meta, cards like cydra, snipe, and so on arent worth being splashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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