SAW

[ragnarok1945]

yeah I know, it was a clear lesson to William, who thought his formula solved EVERYTHING

[johnvander29]

I love all the saw movies. I can watch them over and over again.

[ragnarok1945]

but do you watch it for storyline or just the traps?

[Cloister]

a lot of people watch them just for the traps, but the traps are important imo because he uses them to show his work

[ragnarok1945]

there WERE of course matters where I felt Jigsaw's predictions were a little TOO far fetched.

 

Yes he did say if you're good at predicting the human mind, it leaves nothing to chance. But even he isn't perfect. He admitted in Saw 5 (via flashback in Saw 2 he just lets the game play out)

 

It was a testament to the steam room trap in Saw 6

[Cloister]

I find saw 6 game too big and what have happened if william had died in the brathing mask?

[ragnarok1945]

no that part made sense

 

the janitor had smoked for so long, so obviously William's lungs would be stronger.

 

I was referring more about the steam room trap, the one where his attorney tried to kill him to get the key to the crossbow trap placed on her head

[Cloister]

But IF he had failed the first trap the janitor could have just left athe others and everything would have failed

 

what do you mean with testament for the steam room?

[ragnarok1945]

well, after his attorney found out the key was sowed inside William, she tried to saw him open with an electric saw to get it out to save her life.

 

Question is, what made Jigsaw so sure she wouldn't be able to kill William that way?

[Cloister]

I'm not sure what made him so sure

He had known William a long time and maybe knew how he would react

[ragnarok1945]

yeah that I wasn't sure either

 

Jigsaw may be a good civil engineer, and engineers are supposed to be good at how materials behave. But that's not supposed to apply to the human mind.

 

My only guess is maybe because Jill's clinic has treated so many people, and Jigsaw had been there for enough of them that he took experience from that

[Cloister]

yes, maybe, but he seems like a person that might have studied the human mind also or he have been at jill's hospital so many times

[ragnarok1945]

that's just it. He's an engineer, not a psychologist, he shouldn't have the ability to predict everything that will happen and then they end up doing almost EXACTLY what he thought would happen

[Cloister]

well, for the smaller traps, I could make a trap (not that I'm an engineer) but they concist of 1 thing, like amandas or Kerry or Troy)

[ragnarok1945]

yeah I know

 

I was referring to the big ones like they had in Saw 4, 5, and 6

 

combined with the ability to predict everything that'll happen, it's giving Jigsaw TOO much power

[DARKPLANT RISING]

SAW Ⅲis the best I "saw" so far. ^^

 

And when I'm 12.

[Cloister]

The most is Rigg's game in saw 4

That is just crazy how everyhing worked out exactly as Jigsaw/Hoffman planned it would

[ragnarok1945]

and that is what I'm hoping will go wrong in Saw 7, since as of this moment it's still planned as the last in the series

 

now maybe everything WON'T go according to plan

[Cloister]

and everything will f*** up

do you know when 7 will be released?

[ragnarok1945]

yeah, they're keeping it within normal traditions

 

It should be Oct 22, 2010

 

Filming is set to begin sometime in Feb

[Cloister]

Now I can't wait too see what happens between Hoffman and Jill, since last movie ended with them being foes

[ragnarok1945]

in addition I doubt Jill is out of the woods for the authorities either

 

gut feeling is that eventually they're going to say for being so sympathetic towards Jigsaw she's still guilty of allowing him with such crimes

[Cloister]

Well, some of them are going to get busted, likely hoffman, because they have pointed him out as Jigsaw's apprentice.

Jill has stayed out of that so far

[ragnarok1945]

that's true

 

but the fact is if you knew about the crimes but chose to stay silent, it's a law violation too

[Cloister]

yes, but I feel that since she was married to him and was going to have his child and all that, she had to protect him