Cloister Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 True that, I don't really understrand why he didn't learn that Jigsaw always used a regular knife, and not bladed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 it's not that If you recall in Saw 5 Jigsaw berated him for using crappy quality material for the traps, but the knife is a different matter I bet very few people (that includes Saw fans) factored in the possibility that morgue autopies can tell the difference between what type of a knife was used to cut the jigsaw piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Yes, and that's why they started to work on the Pendulum Trap Video, so just because the same knife was used to cut the jigsaw piece from seth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 exactly, and that was why Hoffman let down his guard because he thought the Seth Baxter case is closed up He didn't expect it to suddenly open back up again. But it still leaves me to wonder did Hoffman's secret really get out into the public or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Don't think so, since the three that he killed in the room were the only ones knowing that he was Jigsaw's apprentice, if the didn't have something hidden in the room to tape what they said or if someone saw him getting into his card and found out what he did, so don't think his secret is known to someone besides jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 maybe, though it's possible the voice descrambler can automatically send the info (even if no one is on the terminal) to other databases remember, it still took Hoffman a few min after killing Erickson and Perez to go get the gasoline and burn the lab down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Erickson was alive when he started the fire so it is possible that he could have gotten away (most likely not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 He didn't, I checked up on the Saw interviews Saw 7 will start off with the confirmation he and Perez had died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Okay, but if he died I think hoffman is "free" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 not fully there's still the problem with Jill and remember that thicker envelope in the box Jigsaw gave her? We still don't know what it is yet My gut feeling is it's another back up plan, just in case the reverse bear trap didn't work on Hoffman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 It could be another plan and it probably is, I didn't think about it since you mentioned it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 I know, as an engineer Jigsaw had to have been smart enough to know there's a way to escape the reverse bear trap even without the key and as he told Hoffman in Saw 5 if you're good at anticipating the human mind it leaves nothing to chance so he had to have factored in the possibility Hoffman could escape the trap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 And since hoffman have learned to think more like Jigsaw I think he should have known what to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 yeah, but it still doesn't change their occupations. Hoffman is still a policeman, while Jigsaw is an engineer. This means while Hoffman has some experience of Jigsaw's traps, there will obviously be ones he can't see coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Of course, but we also got to see in the flashback with "The Rack" that Amanda knew something was going to happen to Hoffman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 yeah but that was obvious since Jigsaw tests everyone he's connected to Therefore everyone knew since Saw 5 Hoffman would have to be tested one way or another. Besides in Saw 4 at the autopsy Jigsaw already stated that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 Yes, the only one that not has been tested is Jill, but that might be because she is too connected to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 15, 2009 Report Share Posted December 15, 2009 yeah, and Jigsaw specifically said in his vid will Jill will always be his world, life or death She is the only person he fully trusts, so if anyone is going to test Jill, it'll be Hoffman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 Hopefully she will be tested I don't think she appreciates her life enough to survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 what she needs right now is to see by keeping loyal this way will have consequences If she actually thinks she can get away with it indefinately, she's wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 She sure is and therefor I think she will get tested in one way or another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 16, 2009 Report Share Posted December 16, 2009 yeah and even if not, for the time being she has to keep looking over her back since Hoffman will now be hunting her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fooba Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 the movie look so good but i havent seen 4 lol man i have to watch them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloister Posted December 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 4 is good but imo it's the least best But have they talked about the plot anything for 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 17, 2009 Report Share Posted December 17, 2009 all they said so far is Saw 7 will take flashbacks from every single Saw film. Therefore if you REALLY want to connect all the dots, you should watch 1 through 6 right before you go see 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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