Type Killers

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

 

I see this on just about every list I see, and I agree with it. It's a blatant shot to the head to Machines everywhere.

 

We're not here to discuss Chimeratech Fortress Dragon, but where the line must be drawn with type-killers like it. What's their "breaking point"?

 

Should cards like System Down, Warrior Elimination, Last Day of Witch, Exile of the Wicked, and the like also be taken out? Should cards that, directly or not, specifically target certain Decktypes also be taken out? Should we take out cards like Mirror of Oaths, Light-Imprisoning Mirror, and even cards like Royal Oppression because they're "Decktype killers"? Should we start madly looking for anything that directly inconveniences certain Decktypes? At what point do we stop?

 

Discuss.

 

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[burnpsy]

I think Exile of the Wicked and the like are a nice place to stop. After that, it's just paranoia.

[-Lightray Daedalus-]

They already banned Tribe Infecting Virus...Why More?

[Cypress]

They already banned Tribe Infecting Virus...Why More?

 

exactly, virus hits every decktype. these cards hit one. so unless next time you go to locals, and you face the same deck 7 times, 1 decktype killer wont hurt

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

They already banned Tribe Infecting Virus...Why More?

 

It's because they reduce variety in the Deck pool.

 

 

exactly' date=' virus hits every decktype. these cards hit one. so unless next time you go to locals, and you face the same deck 7 times, 1 decktype killer wont hurt

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Their being good against a Deck that's dominating generally isn't the problem, because if those Decks are dominating, chances are they aren't awfully hindered by cards that target them. It's Decks that won't get to see play because they're too overwhelmed by that card's power. Why should it be fair that cards like System Down see play when a card with System Down's effect which worked against all types would be banned without question? It's unfair to those Decks.

[-Lightray Daedalus-]

System Down, Warrior Elimination, Last Day of Witch, Exile of the Wicked Never see play...I don't see the problem with them being there coz Anyway Nobody uses them...and this are not a excuse to the low play action this specific types have right now.

 

LIM, SIM are they to stop the current meta decks...

Royal Oppresion is another thing...

[VolTama]

So, does this mean Fortress Dragon is the current format's TIV?

 

Warrior Elimination, Last Day of Witch, etc. are deck killers, but they shouldn't be taken out or limited at all. Nowadays, monsters on the field expandible. They can be recovered/used at almost anytime now. Even being RFP'd isn't as game-breaking as it used to be. While those cards would cause damage, they're basicly a type-specific Lightning Vortex. Now if they worked in a way like CCV that effected your deck, THAT would deserve the list. Fortress simply deserves the list because he ruins your opponent's field and rewards you with a lolatk beatstick.

 

Light/Dark Mirror = Light/Dark Skill Drain, right? If that's the case, those Mirrors wont stop the best effects in their deck (i.e. Honest and Swarming), so it wouldn't matter.

 

SS negation is crucial to anti meta. Some rewards you for stopping the SS, but most (if not all) cards require some kind of cost or need the SS'd card to have come from a certain place. While this does limit many of the player's choices, this will most likely only buy the card's user time and delay their opponent. At best, I'd say Oppression would be at 2. That's the best I can think of really.

[RyanAtlus]

Metakiller

Normal Spell Card

Destroy all cards that are part of an Archetype.

 

lulz

But they should complete the typekiller list.

[Lazer Yoshi]

Stuff like Systemof a Down and Exile of the Wicked are not used because it's like playing Texas Hold'em: You're guessing what they got.

Guessing in Yugioh isn't always the best solution.

Tribe was the ultimate Type Killer, but it's banned now, so no worries.

[Flame Dragon]

What makes this and Trib different from the likes of Warrior Elimination and Last Day of Witch is that tribisn't limited to one group and Cyber doesn't take any deck space meaning if your up against Machines, it's as good as gg since he'll rape them and give you a beatstick.

[Toffee.]

Special Summon Cyber Dragon -> Remove it, and an opponents monster -> You get a 2000ATK beatstick -> ??????? -> Profit?

[burnpsy]

Special Summon Cyber Dragon -> Remove it' date=' and [b']several opposing monsters[/b] -> You get a 3000+ATK beatstick -> ??????? -> Profit?

 

Fixed.

[-Griffin]

I think the problem that the topic is trying to get at is the overall effect it has. It's very hard for a type to become meta and a strong, commonplace Deck when there are side Deck options that just act like a Regiki for it, and in Cydra's case. One that gives a beat stick for doing so.