Guest JoshIcy Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 [align=center]As much of a threat was it was? Could this be Limited?[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 CED is better. Its just a stronger version of chaos sorcerer. Its CS + Tyrant Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfi Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Its banned for a reason. We complained. Thats why they gave us back Chaos Sorcerer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERYUGI!GO!! Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 you obviously don't remember how broken this card was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 you obviously don't remember how broken this card was Past-tense. I dont see this card anywhere near the threat and brokeness it was back then.Now, it's just a speed-beatstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 [align=center]you obviously don't remember how broken this card was Past-tense. I dont see this card anywhere near the threat and brokeness it was back then.Now' date=' it's just a speed-beatstick.[/quote'] You rang? But yeah, Chaos Sorc seems better in this format tbh.[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdt Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 That card is on the ban list almost ever year. But 2002 I used it in a tournment. It didn"t win me but it did good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 It Special Summons itself from the hand by fulfilling a laughable Summon Condition, and then proceeds to either run over 2 monsters with 6000 ATK worth of attacks per Battle Phase or remove anything mildly problematic from play. Oh, and to top it all off, it has too much ATK for most things to run over, so it forces removal too. Legalizing this would be an unspeakably foolish decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 [align=center]you obviously don't remember how broken this card was Past-tense. I dont see this card anywhere near the threat and brokeness it was back then.Now' date=' it's just a speed-beatstick.[/quote'] You rang? [/align]Best. Post. Ever. Also, we need to start taking sips. Crab has ben locking topics left to right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Crab has ben locking topics left to right. That's because this forum is full of terrible topics. Five created cards topics, a card collection topic, three joke banlist topics, a discussion topic that duplicates another one on the front page, and four topics whose titles request that they be locked. YCM-kun is having a bad day, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 YCM-kun is having a bad day' date=' apparently.[/quote'] I hear ya' I need to call 911, since I think my replacement liver just died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Really, just because the meta is different doesn't change anything about the card when it first got banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Despite being a LIGHT Atribute, I still think it's pure evil created by Satan in order to distort and control the minds of everyone, but failnami found that they could counteract this evil by banning it.Now you all know why it must never see the light of day again... that, and it's broken as hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 I'm surprised no one mentioned how he has Honest on his side these days...I know it's redundant but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 the only way this wil ever be legal is when you play in traditional. easy as that.so ya. are you happy. its limited now. ur just playing in the wrong format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Oh, how I miss the days back when the sole objective of the game was to Summon BLS - Envoy before your opponent did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Its probably the greatest beatstick in the game.On another note, I made this topic earlier and someone said that the Earthbound Gods were better.lolycm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Its probably the greatest beatstick in the game.On another note' date=' I made this topic earlier and someone said that the Earthbound Gods were better.lolycm[/quote'] lolycm indeed :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 It's all what Crab said +-The monster you remove. You get to take ANY monster regardless of ATK, Level, Type, Position, ANYTHING.-Revoded from play means no Stardust intervention. -But you can say that lots of cards can actually be stronger, name how many monsters can actually run over this one by card effects or battle? Red Dragon Archfiend D Hero Plasma Injection Fairy Lily Heraclinos JD Gyzaurus Snipe Hunter Monarchs (WIND, DARK, LIGHT, Thunder) DAD Black Rose Dragon(commonly used ones, that's pretty much it I guess,[except Injection]. You might have a point if this really matters that much.) hmmm... hard desition... hmmm....ummmm......ammmmm.........I guess......hummmmmm...... I'll go for.........ummmm.........stay banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Blade Knight Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 I think it should stay banned, to over powered and the fact it's very abuseable and splashable in almost every meta deck these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Its probably the greatest beatstick in the game.On another note' date=' I made this topic earlier and someone said that the Earthbound Gods were better.lolycm[/quote'] lolycm indeed :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 The chaos cards were a nice idea, but they were done horribly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 The chaos cards were a nice idea' date=' but they were done horribly wrong.[/quote'] How can Failnami make nice ideas without making them horribly broken anymore? (besides type specific cards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 The chaos cards were a nice idea' date=' but they were done horribly wrong.[/quote'] How can Failnami make nice ideas without making them horribly broken anymore? (besides type specific cards) What do you mean by "besides type specific cards"? If we extend "type" to account for any artificial grouping - actual Types, Attributes, Archetypes, monsters with over/under/exactly XXXX ATK/DEF, and so on - then we either get cards that either only work when used in combination with certain other cards (producing a de facto type restriction) or are splashables. And the problem with splashables is that any new splashable needs to be strong enough to be chosen for use over the currently available splashables and not too strong that it becomes broken - and even then, there is still a risk of 40goodcard.dek becoming the meta unless the various types can muster something stronger, putting us right back where we started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 The chaos cards were a nice idea' date=' but they were done horribly wrong.[/quote'] How can Failnami make nice ideas without making them horribly broken anymore? (besides type specific cards) What do you mean by "besides type specific cards"? If we extend "type" to account for any artificial grouping - actual Types, Attributes, Archetypes, monsters with over/under/exactly XXXX ATK/DEF, and so on - then we either get cards that either only work when used in combination with certain other cards (producing a de facto type restriction) or are splashables. And the problem with splashables is that any new splashable needs to be strong enough to be chosen for use over the currently available splashables and not too strong that it becomes broken - and even then, there is still a risk of 40goodcard.dek becoming the meta unless the various types can muster something stronger, putting us right back where we started. By type specific, I mean cards like that new Fish type Pot of Greed.And by nice ideas, I mean splashable in ANY deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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