One of the more underrated Archetypes...(DISC)

[C.F.Yuji]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah my Favorite Archetype, Even though Failnami must've been drunk or something when coming up with the Adult Forms, I mean, 800 ATK?, How are they to use their abilities and survive with Low ATK?, Try 2000+ next time Failnami.

 

Anyway, I can see where Dharc's adult form would come in handy, No, Himself as a whole would come in handy for DAD decks, Considering he's DARK, And If I don't see a LIGHT Charmer or more Dharc soon I'm gonna snap >_>.

 

The only versions I see that can be used now adays are the Familiar-Possessed form cause of their ATK of 1850.

[CrabHelmet]

The word "underrated" does not mean what you appear to think it means.

 

The word "underrated" means that cards are held in lower esteem than their actual quality warrants. It is not an umbrella term for every card that is considered terrible.

[kidchaor]

i like those cards.actually when they came out i have been buying packs just to find them.they are perfect for their attribute decks.

[Flame Dragon]

They aren't underrated. Their rated correctly. Their bad.

 

The first set and third set will often be dead before you can use their effect. The second is just a beatstick.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

i like those cards.actually when they came out i have been buying packs just to find them.they are perfect for their attribute decks.

 

they are better than lightsworn just like psychics and arcana forces right?

[C.F.Yuji]

Apparently some people forget that Card Games CAN be Strategy based >_>,

 

i like those cards.actually when they came out i have been buying packs just to find them.they are perfect for their attribute decks.

 

Glad to see someone else likes them...

 

They aren't underrated. Their rated correctly. Their bad.

 

The first set and third set will often be dead before you can use their effect. The second is just a beatstick.

 

If they're bad then why can I kick a lot of people's butt's using a deck around them where I live?, And don't say "Then they must suck to loose to these cards", Cause not every deck is invincible, And every deck CAN win when played right.

 

Anyway, The third set, Yeah, they'll be gone before they can be used, BUT, The first set?, Not if you use this:

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster,

 

Now to a lot of you, that may be a waste cause your using, like, 3 cards, But it's a good strategy IMO, I remember eliminating quite a few DAD and JD in my town using this strategy...

 

And I only consider the FP form Beatsticks if you give them the ability to use their Piercing effect...

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I actually like the beginning forms + the Familiar-Possessed ones.

 

The EOJ ones, well the effect is good, but I kinda think pics are bad. The other two types are awesome, though. And the pics rock :D

 

(P.S. I use the Water Familiar-Possessed in my Deck)

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Apparently some people forget that Card Games CAN be Strategy based >_>' date='

 

i like those cards.actually when they came out i have been buying packs just to find them.they are perfect for their attribute decks.

 

Glad to see someone else likes them...

 

They aren't underrated. Their rated correctly. Their bad.

 

The first set and third set will often be dead before you can use their effect. The second is just a beatstick.

 

If they're bad then why can I kick a lot of people's butt's using a deck around them where I live?' date=' And don't say "Then they must suck to loose to these cards", Cause not every deck is invincible, And every deck CAN win when played right.

 

Anyway, The third set, Yeah, they'll be gone before they can be used, BUT, The first set?, Not if you use this:

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster,

 

Now to a lot of you, that may be a waste cause your using, like, 3 cards, But it's a good strategy IMO, I remember eliminating quite a few DAD and JD in my town using this strategy...

 

And I only consider the FP form Beatsticks if you give them the ability to use their Piercing effect...

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This post demonstrates total awesomeness. It's that awesome. TOTAL.

[Master Hyperion]

I love the art.

 

And that's about the only positive thing I can say about them.

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

Now to a lot of you, that may be a waste cause your using, like, 3 cards, But it's a good strategy IMO,

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Your combo heavily depends on a very bad flip effect monster which heavily depends on the opponent's monsters Attribute, an Attribute changing equip card that is rather useless when you don't have set a Charmer monster and a Spell card that's also useless on it's own, since it's most likely that you are going to use it on your own Charmer monsters.

 

This means you need 3 cards that are heavily useless unless they are actually combined together, but even then it's not worth it, since the controlled monster still heavily depends on the charmer monster that only has 500 ATK, so it can and will be ran over by anything else and lose control of the controlled monster.

 

I remember eliminating quite a few DAD and JD in my town using this strategy...

 

lol

 

If DAD or JD hits the field, it's most likely that they already turned the duel around or even already won the current duel. If you can gain control of a DAD or JD with a combo that requires 3 cards that just plain suck, your opponent needs to stop sucking.

[evilhorus]

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

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Brain Control/Mind Control/Enemy Controller > That

[C.F.Yuji]

I love the art.

 

And that's about the only positive thing I can say about them.

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

Now to a lot of you, that may be a waste cause your using, like, 3 cards, But it's a good strategy IMO,

[/quote']

 

Your combo heavily depends on a very bad flip effect monster which heavily depends on the opponent's monsters Attribute, an Attribute changing equip card that is rather useless when you don't have set a Charmer monster and a Spell card that's also useless on it's own, since it's most likely that you are going to use it on your own Charmer monsters.

 

This means you need 3 cards that are heavily useless unless they are actually combined together, but even then it's not worth it, since the controlled monster still heavily depends on the charmer monster that only has 500 ATK, so it can and will be ran over by anything else and lose control of the controlled monster.

 

See, Here's the way I usually do it, I would take control of a monster, If it has a good effect, I'd use it, Use it to Attack the enemy as well, Then get rid of it for either a Tribute Summon (If the Charmer has been on the field longer then 1 turn), Synchro Summon or send the Charmer and monster to the grave for a piercing 1850 FP form.

 

I remember eliminating quite a few DAD and JD in my town using this strategy...

 

lol

 

If DAD or JD hits the field' date=' it's most likely that they already turned the duel around or even already won the current duel. If you can gain control of a DAD or JD with a combo that requires 3 cards that just plain suck, your opponent needs to stop sucking.

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Eh, I knew that would come up eventually, And my Charmers do not suck, Neither do my enemies, And it is possible to gain control of powerful cards through a "Useless Card" Combo...

 

Besides, The only reason DAD and JD can make the duel go in your favor, Is cause I think those two are either Overpowered or Broken IMO, Should've had "Once per turn" written on them or a higher cost for JD or something >_>.

 

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

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Brain Control/Mind Control/Enemy Controller > That

 

Eh, That's your opinion, But I'll stick to my Charmers.

[evilhorus]

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

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Brain Control/Mind Control/Enemy Controller > That

 

Eh, That's your opinion, But I'll stick to my Charmers.

 

 

So, you would rather use a situational combo that requires 3 cards or use 1 card that does not have any specific targeting?

[SkillzKill]

They aren't underrated. Their rated correctly. Their bad.

[C.F.Yuji]

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

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Brain Control/Mind Control/Enemy Controller > That

 

Eh, That's your opinion, But I'll stick to my Charmers.

 

 

So, you would rather use a situational combo that requires 3 cards or use 1 card that does not have any specific targeting?

 

IMO, If I had them in my hand at the time, Yeah, I'd use my 3 card combo, But If I didn't have them in my hand, and had something else, then I'd use it.

[Master Hyperion]

I love the art.

 

And that's about the only positive thing I can say about them.

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

Now to a lot of you, that may be a waste cause your using, like, 3 cards, But it's a good strategy IMO,

[/quote']

 

Your combo heavily depends on a very bad flip effect monster which heavily depends on the opponent's monsters Attribute, an Attribute changing equip card that is rather useless when you don't have set a Charmer monster and a Spell card that's also useless on it's own, since it's most likely that you are going to use it on your own Charmer monsters.

 

This means you need 3 cards that are heavily useless unless they are actually combined together, but even then it's not worth it, since the controlled monster still heavily depends on the charmer monster that only has 500 ATK, so it can and will be ran over by anything else and lose control of the controlled monster.

 

See, Here's the way I usually do it, I would take control of a monster, If it has a good effect, I'd use it, Use it to Attack the enemy as well, Then get rid of it for either a Tribute Summon (If the Charmer has been on the field longer then 1 turn), Synchro Summon or send the Charmer and monster to the grave for a piercing 1850 FP form.

 

Awesome. Not only do you have to use a 3-card combo, but you are also forced to deck a 1850 ATK monster that is horribly useless unless you are actually able to Special Summon it to gain it's effect. And it's only reward is piercing damage, which isn't going to run over a Defense Position monster unless it's Sangan or Jujitsu Master.

 

I remember eliminating quite a few DAD and JD in my town using this strategy...

 

lol

 

If DAD or JD hits the field' date=' it's most likely that they already turned the duel around or even already won the current duel. If you can gain control of a DAD or JD with a combo that requires 3 cards that just plain suck, your opponent needs to stop sucking.

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Eh, I knew that would come up eventually, And my Charmers do not suck,

 

Why yes. Yes, they do.

Neither do my enemies' date='

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Suuuuuuuuuure they don't.

 

And it is possible to gain control of powerful cards through a "Useless Card" Combo...

 

You are still required to have 3 cards that do nothing decent untill you can actually pull it of. And even then' date=' it's still not worth it waiting for it.

 

Besides, The only reason DAD and JD can make the duel go in your favor, Is cause I think those two are either Overpowered or Broken IMO

 

I think we can both agree with this line.

 

Should've had "Once per turn" written on them

 

It still wouldn't matter. DAD and JD still are broken since it doesn't take too much effort to actually Summon a 2800/3000 beatstick out of nowhere.

 

or a higher cost for JD or something >_>.

 

Cyber Stein.

[evilhorus]

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

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Brain Control/Mind Control/Enemy Controller > That

 

Eh, That's your opinion, But I'll stick to my Charmers.

 

 

So, you would rather use a situational combo that requires 3 cards or use 1 card that does not have any specific targeting?

 

IMO, If I had them in my hand at the time, Yeah, I'd use my 3 card combo, But If I didn't have them in my hand, and had something else, then I'd use it.

 

IMO, I just woudnt run them or Charmers =D

[C.F.Yuji]

Eh, Say they suck all you want, But I'm not gonna stop using 'em, Besides, there are too many people running DAD, Blackwings and JD these days for me to switch to something like that...

 

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

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Brain Control/Mind Control/Enemy Controller > That

 

Eh, That's your opinion, But I'll stick to my Charmers.

 

 

So, you would rather use a situational combo that requires 3 cards or use 1 card that does not have any specific targeting?

 

IMO, If I had them in my hand at the time, Yeah, I'd use my 3 card combo, But If I didn't have them in my hand, and had something else, then I'd use it.

 

IMO, I just woudnt run them or Charmers =D

 

Then that's Your opinion, Run whatever you want, But as for me, I'm sticking to my Charmers as my 1st Deck, 2nd goes to Psychics...

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Eh' date=' Say they suck all you want, But I'm [u']not[/u] gonna stop using 'em, Besides, there are too many people running DAD, Blackwings and JD these days for me to switch to something like that...

 

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

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Brain Control/Mind Control/Enemy Controller > That

 

Eh, That's your opinion, But I'll stick to my Charmers.

 

 

So, you would rather use a situational combo that requires 3 cards or use 1 card that does not have any specific targeting?

 

IMO, If I had them in my hand at the time, Yeah, I'd use my 3 card combo, But If I didn't have them in my hand, and had something else, then I'd use it.

 

IMO, I just woudnt run them or Charmers =D

 

Then that's Your opinion, Run whatever you want, But as for me, I'm sticking to my Charmers as my 1st Deck, 2nd goes to Psychics...

 

Where do you people COME from!?!?!?

 

RAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNBOOOOOOOOW!

[evilhorus]

Eh' date=' Say they suck all you want, But I'm [u']not[/u] gonna stop using 'em, Besides, there are too many people running DAD, Blackwings and JD these days for me to switch to something like that...

 

 

Face-Down Charmer>>>>>>Scroll of Bewitchment on enemy monster>>>>>Book of Taiyou on Charmer>>>>>>Take Enemy monster' date='

 

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Brain Control/Mind Control/Enemy Controller > That

 

Eh, That's your opinion, But I'll stick to my Charmers.

 

 

So, you would rather use a situational combo that requires 3 cards or use 1 card that does not have any specific targeting?

 

IMO, If I had them in my hand at the time, Yeah, I'd use my 3 card combo, But If I didn't have them in my hand, and had something else, then I'd use it.

 

IMO, I just woudnt run them or Charmers =D

 

Then that's Your opinion, Run whatever you want, But as for me, I'm sticking to my Charmers as my 1st Deck, 2nd goes to Psychics...

 

Where do you people COME from!?!?!?

 

RAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNBOOOOOOOOW!

 

 

Your Penis.

 

 

OT: Psychics (Apart from Krebons and Commander) are Crap. Charmers are da shiz.

 

And dont say its an opinion - its not. Its an actual fact.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Your Penis.

 

 

OT: Psychics (Apart from Krebons and Commander) are Crap. Charmers are da shiz.

 

And dont say its an opinion - its not. Its an actual fact.

 

Thought Ruler Archfiend, Magical Android, and Mind Master are cool though. Especially Mind Master because he can be Special Summoned from the Deck by at least 2 different Spell Cards and is an FTK with Magical Scientist.

[C.F.Yuji]

Where do you people COME from!?!?!?

 

RAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNBOOOOOOOOW!

 

 

Your Penis.

 

 

OT: Psychics (Apart from Krebons and Commander) are Crap. Charmers are da shiz.

 

And dont say its an opinion - its not. Its an actual fact.

 

lol' date=' Psychic's are crap?, Why?, Their Life Point cost thing?, I like 'em, On Tag Force 3, If I get Emergency Teleport, I can almost always Synchro Summon on my first turn XD, But it's usually either Magical Android, or Psychic Lifetrancer.

 

Your Penis.

 

 

OT: Psychics (Apart from Krebons and Commander) are Crap. Charmers are da shiz.

 

And dont say its an opinion - its not. Its an actual fact.

 

Thought Ruler Archfiend' date=' Magical Android, and Mind Master are cool though. Especially Mind Master because he can be Special Summoned from the Deck by at least 2 different Spell Cards and is an FTK with Magical Scientist.

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Eh, I prefer Hyper Psychic Blaster in the Psychic Synchro's, THEN Thought Ruler.

[shadowferret]

The Charmers can be pretty cool...

And to those people who keep saying they suck... Well, it's not as if all of us keep tournament level dueling in mind. Maybe people like to build decks and use certain cards for FUN, or because we LIKE them. Not simply it's because "it wins". Not everyone takes the game so seriously.

 

As for the Charmers, the effects can be difficult to use IMO, but I think they've got some potential. If you could run some good stall, and draw out all the cards for your comboes, I think they could be good.

[C.F.Yuji]

The Charmers can be pretty cool...

And to those people who keep saying they suck... Well' date=' it's not as if all of us keep tournament level dueling in mind. Maybe people like to build decks and use certain cards for FUN, or because we LIKE them. Not simply it's because "it wins". Not everyone takes the game so seriously.

 

As for the Charmers, the effects can be difficult to use IMO, but I think they've got some potential. If you could run some good stall, and draw out all the cards for your comboes, I think they could be good.

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QFT

 

I remember the good 'ol days when everyone would duel for fun and didn't care what kinda deck they made, and didn't care if they won or lost, Now adays we get people who just want to win and build a lot of the same decks (DAD, JD and Blackwings).

[Manjoume Thunder]

I am tired of people who say archetype A is bad, but people should run it. They shouldn't run archetype B, because everyone does. BW and LS are fun to play. Tele-DAD was one of my favourite builds. Why run horrible card instead of better cards that can be fun too. And you can always make semi-competive fun decks like Heroes, LS variants (LS hero, LScrystals ...), crystal beasts ... They are some of the most funny builds and still have a slight chance of topping a big tourney. And I can't imagine how a deck that can't win even a friendly match can be fun.

[C.F.Yuji]

lol, If your talking to me about what I say about DAD, JD and Blackwings, I'm not saying they're horrible or anything like that, no, I love Blackwings myself, And I use LS on Tag Force 3 and '09, It's just that I think that DAD and JD should've had a limiter or something, Like a once per turn thing, Since you can destroy 3 cards as soon as DAD hits the field, and blow everything up with JD, like you could also do with Demise.

 

And that everyone seems to run them these days, Where's the originality? XD.