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but madara is in his original body. I'll tell you why. Madara has told sasuke that he is much weaker than he ever used to be, and isn't at his full strength. Now, lets compare Madara to orochimaru. Orochimaru, when weakened, would then transfer to a different body, and become stronger and healthy again until the body rejected him. Now, if madara switched bodies constantly, then he wouldn't be constantly weaker than he used to be; he would have regained his strength. That, my friend, is the flaw in your logic.

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I shudder at Madara's strength. I took the Akatsuki days to extract each demon, but it only took Madara a few seconds by himself.

 

I would think he would manipulate a male rather than a female. Like Shisui' date=' also, how old would Obito be at this time?

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A. Shisui was a woman.

 

B. Obito is dead at this time.

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I shudder at Madara's strength. I took the Akatsuki days to extract each demon' date=' but it only took Madara a few seconds by himself.

 

I would think he would manipulate a male rather than a female. Like Shisui, also, how old would Obito be at this time?

 

A. Shisui was a woman.

 

B. Obito is dead at this time.

 

A. Shisui was male.

 

B.

I'm saying IF Obito was alive' date=' how old would he be? Early twenties? Late teens?

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Seems kinda daft to have female jinchuurikis then:/

 

I'm bored of flash backs now; I want him to turn into fox sage naruto already :/

 

Kushina's chakra was capable of having a strong seal on the kyuubi' date=' and the host before her was also a Uzushio female.[/url']

 

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Orochimaru's way was developed by himself...Madara could use another method. Look at Hiden' date=' Kazuku, and Sasori..all different ways of immortality

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I never said madara wasn't immortal. You just proved that madara most likely doesn't switch bodies, and has some other way to be immortal, which means that it is highly unlikely that he has changed bodies. Also, if he were to switch bodies, he would no longer have the sharingan.

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Are you absolutely sure Shisui was male?

 

And also, if alive, Obito would have been about the same age as Kakashi was at the time, which is around 14.

 

Edit: Nvm, you're right. For some reason, I remember someone referring to Shisui as a she.

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hmmm' date=' touche. I likez you, you get +1 reps for making me scratch my chin and get brain melt down... how about the coffin that orochimaru couldn't summon? Could it be.... sage of six paths? Highly unlikely, but hey, would throw a wrench in the clockwork. could be *gasp* madara's brother. or anyone else.and it totally could be sage of six paths, as with that particular jutsu, rotting is meaningless. heck, it could even be a giant pickle and madara is deathly alergic O_o

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Okay that was a completely useless rant!!! He was talking about the coffin that Kabuto threatened Madara with, not the coffin that Orochimaru tried to summon. Which in fact we know to be the 4th hokage. The third stopped this summon.

 

 

Also to everyone who is trying to figure out who the masked uchiha is that kidnaps Naruto and forces the 9 Tails from Kushina, it cannot be Sasuke's mother. She married a Uchiha and their fore cannot posses a Sharingan unless the writer is trying to make the Sharingan more like the Rinnegan. Also it could very well be another unseen Uchiha, mainly Madara's brother. My reasonings for this is someone just a little while ago on here said that no one is old enough or powerful enough to be well known by the Kyuubi. Well having Madara's brother being the one to kidnap Naruto and force the 9 Tails out, would show how powerful he is/was and would make it even more reliable in conjuction with the fact that Kabuto summoned a last coffin that suprised and temporary scared Madara.

 

My Idea is just that, and the reasons why Madara would be afraid of his brother like this is because he can control the 9 Tails so easily and that his brother could possibly be stronger then Madara. The only logical problem with this fact is where did Madara's brother get his eye's from? An explanation could be similar to Kakashi or even the stealing them like Madara did.

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Just because I really want to say it' date=' and because some people may not have realized, Naruto and Sasuke actually are cousins, although very distant.

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Both of Naruto parents doesn't have Sharingan. So it's near impossible unless Masashi draw its manga while drunk or threaten by Yakuza member.

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hmmm' date=' touche. I likez you, you get +1 reps for making me scratch my chin and get brain melt down... how about the coffin that orochimaru couldn't summon? Could it be.... sage of six paths? Highly unlikely, but hey, would throw a wrench in the clockwork. could be *gasp* madara's brother. or anyone else.and it totally could be sage of six paths, as with that particular jutsu, rotting is meaningless. heck, it could even be a giant pickle and madara is deathly alergic O_o

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Okay that was a completely useless rant!!! He was talking about the coffin that Kabuto threatened Madara with, not the coffin that Orochimaru tried to summon. Which in fact we know to be the 4th hokage. The third stopped this summon.

 

 

Also to everyone who is trying to figure out who the masked uchiha is that kidnaps Naruto and forces the 9 Tails from Kushina, it cannot be Sasuke's mother. She married a Uchiha and their fore cannot posses a Sharingan unless the writer is trying to make the Sharingan more like the Rinnegan. Also it could very well be another unseen Uchiha, mainly Madara's brother. My reasonings for this is someone just a little while ago on here said that no one is old enough or powerful enough to be well known by the Kyuubi. Well having Madara's brother being the one to kidnap Naruto and force the 9 Tails out, would show how powerful he is/was and would make it even more reliable in conjuction with the fact that Kabuto summoned a last coffin that suprised and temporary scared Madara.

 

My Idea is just that, and the reasons why Madara would be afraid of his brother like this is because he can control the 9 Tails so easily and that his brother could possibly be stronger then Madara. The only logical problem with this fact is where did Madara's brother get his eye's from? An explanation could be similar to Kakashi or even the stealing them like Madara did.

You obviously wasn't paying attention to the rant, my friend. When I said "how about the coffin orochimaru couldn't summon" i specifically meant that kabuto summoned the 4th's coffin. But likely that wouldn't scare madara. And if you notice I already said that the coffin could be madara's brother. Also, it's unlikely that the man in the mask is madara's brother, because madara killed his brother for his eyes, which is mainly why madara wants vengance. (at least I'm pretty sure he did) Also, another note, it could still easily be the sage of six paths. or madara's father, he's scared of a spank xD Anyways, no, my rant was not pointless. And it wasn't a rant. I was trying to inject some humor into my reply. But I was serious about the coffin being madara's brother or the sage of six paths. Also, i'm honored that my idea of madara bieng the only one noteworthy to the kyubi stuck in your head.

 

Both of Naruto parents doesn't have Sharingan. So it's near impossible unless Masashi draw its manga while drunk or threaten by Yakuza member.

 

Lol, nice analogy, but no. Sasuke's mother is not uchiha by blood. She is married into the Uchiha clan and can't use sharringan herself. So most likely sasuke's mother is a relative of naruto's mother, therefore naruto and sasuke are related.

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It's impossible that the Sage is in that coffin. Sage had lived a long time ago, even before Madara born. There is no way Madara know the Sage face is look like. The only possibility is Madara's Brother. Although i suspect Masashi will throw something unsuspected or nasty thing in that coffin. *shiver*

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Seems kinda daft to have female jinchuurikis then:/

 

I'm bored of flash backs now; I want him to turn into fox sage naruto already :/

Personally I like flashbacks. It tells us why things are the way they are.

 

Just because I really want to say it' date=' and because some people may not have realized, Naruto and Sasuke actually are cousins, although very distant.

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I thought so but can you explain? I iz confuzord.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/462/12/

 

I think that's what he's talking about.

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Just because I really want to say it' date=' and because some people may not have realized, Naruto and Sasuke actually are cousins, although very distant.

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Both of Naruto parents doesn't have Sharingan. So it's near impossible unless Masashi draw its manga while drunk or threaten by Yakuza member.

 

Sage of Six Paths had 2 sons. One who was the root of the Uchiha and one of the Senju. So Uchiha and Senju are brothers. Hashirama Senju married Mito Uzumaki. Mito's kinswoman is Kushina. Put the pieces together.

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Both of Naruto parents doesn't have Sharingan. So it's near impossible unless Masashi draw its manga while drunk or threaten by Yakuza member.

 

Lol' date=' nice analogy, but no. Sasuke's mother is not uchiha by blood. She is married into the Uchiha clan and can't use sharringan herself. So most likely sasuke's mother is a relative of naruto's mother, therefore naruto and sasuke are related.

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No way their not relatives they are friends or close friends but if Naruto and Sasuke were related that would be weird.

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Just because I really want to say it' date=' and because some people may not have realized, Naruto and Sasuke actually are cousins, although very distant.

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Both of Naruto parents doesn't have Sharingan. So it's near impossible unless Masashi draw its manga while drunk or threaten by Yakuza member.

 

Sage of Six Paths had 2 sons. One who was the root of the Uchiha and one of the Senju. So Uchiha and Senju are brothers. Hashirama Senju married Mito Uzumaki. Mito's kinswoman is Kushina. Put the pieces together.

 

Not only that, but it was stated that the Uzumaki and Senju clans shared a common ancestor. Considering how the Uzumaki clan is known for their long lives and their abilities with seals, it's likely they inherited that from the younger son.

 

However, I was raised under a principle that stated that after three generations, you don't really count as being related.

 

Considering how during the Chunin Exams Kakashi stated that it's possible the Sharingan descended from the Byakugan, it's also possible that the Hyuga and Uchiha clans are related in the same way Uzumaki and Senju are, which might mean Naruto and Sasuke are cousins of Neji and Hinata as well.

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