Tentacruel Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Dammit Sasuke. Somebody tell the emo to take a seat. Oh well, this is how the series had to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Still, this makes me worried about The Last Movie. We haven't seen Sasuke's design yet, and while I figured it was because Kishimoto didn't want to reveal that this fight would happen, this only makes me worried that Sasuke will die, and if he does, what would be the point? Maybe Kishimoto is holding back because he doesn't want to confirm that Sasuke survives this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Still, this makes me worried about The Last Movie. We haven't seen Sasuke's design yet, and while I figured it was because Kishimoto didn't want to reveal that this fight would happen, this only makes me worried that Sasuke will die, and if he does, what would be the point? Maybe Kishimoto is holding back because he doesn't want to confirm that Sasuke survives this?Yeah, I'd say giving out a Sasuke design would imply he goes back to Konoha, or at the very least it'd spoil on what does happen to him since that's a very gray outcome at the moment.I don't think he'll die. Unless something crazy happened with Spiral Zetsu and Sasuke gets a redemption move, but I'm banking more on Naruto beating sense into him and ultimately Sasuke acts as the Danzo to his Hiruzen.But Sasuke's been one hell of an X Factor before, so I don't know if there's any use predicting what he'll do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Still, this makes me worried about The Last Movie. We haven't seen Sasuke's design yet, and while I figured it was because Kishimoto didn't want to reveal that this fight would happen, this only makes me worried that Sasuke will die, and if he does, what would be the point? Maybe Kishimoto is holding back because he doesn't want to confirm that Sasuke survives this? I'm CERTAIN Naruto will not kill him. Anyway, no shock that Naruto and Sasuke are going to have a final fight. Also, at least his motivation is less stupid now. Fine chapter over all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake the Sage Posted September 11, 2014 Report Share Posted September 11, 2014 Okay I just read the newest chapter. Like everyone else, all I could think was, "God d*mn it Sasuke!" Yet Fusion does make a good point, if anyone was going to beat some sense into him it'd be Naruto. Hell! We all knew this was going to happen anyways so I'm not even sure why I was surprised in the first place! Maybe, like Roxas said, it's because after everything you'd think that he'd have learned something on his own . . . Guess he's just stubborn; or completely convinced that his way is the only way to prevent what they just went through from ever happening again. Now, I want to point something out no one has yet. The Six Path's Plan for the tailed beasts . . .I suppose that Six Paths told Kurama that he was going to be put back inside Naruto because that was what he really wanted, but would never admit it, yet I still feel he should have let Kurama deny it first . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 I get that they have to fight. While they've worked together, it didn't exactly resolve the Cycle of Hatred. We never saw Sasuke's side of things, so we have no reason to believe he's changed. During this battle, we can see how he could. The problem, however, is that he apparently learned nothing. The Kages are just as much victims of the cycle, and the whole point of the Shinobi Alliance is that all the nations, together, would change that. Sasuke has nothing that could make his plans be sympathetic, but he's Sasuke, so him being a crazy dumbass should be expected. I'm just curious how long this battle will take, since Kishimoto is nearly at chapter 700. As for Hagoromo, yes, I think he should have been more courteous towards Kurama, but at the same time, I get what he's going for. Still, though, isn't it about time that Kurama's two halves finally got reconnected? Maybe Naruto beats Sasuke by restoring Kurama to full power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 I get that they have to fight. While they've worked together, it didn't exactly resolve the Cycle of Hatred. We never saw Sasuke's side of things, so we have no reason to believe he's changed. During this battle, we can see how he could. The problem, however, is that he apparently learned nothing. The Kages are just as much victims of the cycle, and the whole point of the Shinobi Alliance is that all the nations, together, would change that. Sasuke has nothing that could make his plans be sympathetic, but he's Sasuke, so him being a crazy dumbass should be expected. I'm just curious how long this battle will take, since Kishimoto is nearly at chapter 700. As for Hagoromo, yes, I think he should have been more courteous towards Kurama, but at the same time, I get what he's going for. Still, though, isn't it about time that Kurama's two halves finally got reconnected? Maybe Naruto beats Sasuke by restoring Kurama to full power? I stand by it ending with chapter 700. We are on 692(I think) so fight might take 5 or so chapters with 3 for clean up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 The battle with Kaguya started at the end of 679 and ended with 690, so five chapters would be a rather short battle. I guess we'll have to see what Kishimoto does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Well, while it's indeed short, I believe that the battle will be about the same in terms of length, not nearly as long as the battles with Juubito or Madara since the manga needs to end in time for the movie. Oh, the chapter itself was pretty epic and unexpected~ finally everything that Sasuke's been doing from the moment he tried burning down the Juubi now makes sense, and we get to see where all his character development has ultimately led him towards. ...In other words, basically, this is communism (Sasuke) vs democracy (Naruto). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 I somehow doubt Sasuke will be the final villain. What would be amazing is if Sasuke Edo uses the 5 kages as tributes to resummon the hokage and madara..that would be something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Favourite chapter in years, ive only been continuing to read this manga to see the final fight between Naruto and Sasuke and its good to finally get confirmation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 I somehow doubt Sasuke will be the final villain. What would be amazing is if Sasuke Edo uses the 5 kages as tributes to resummon the hokage and madara..that would be something no thank you plz No, seriously, this is an epic enough conclusion as it is. Readers are already suffering from arc fatigue with Obito and then the Juubi and then Obito again and then Madara and then Kaguya, and truly there's no other way for the story to go at this point. If we can have a nice, clean confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke as was promised right from the start, then that would make everyone happy. If we have any more Man Behind the Mans, I'm probably going to faint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 no thank you plz No, seriously, this is an epic enough conclusion as it is. Readers are already suffering from arc fatigue with Obito and then the Juubi and then Obito again and then Madara and then Kaguya, and truly there's no other way for the story to go at this point. If we can have a nice, clean confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke as was promised right from the start, then that would make everyone happy. If we have any more Man Behind the Mans, I'm probably going to faint.Look at the flashback of Hashirama distributing the Beast to the other villages, look at the guy behind the mizukage, then look at orochimaruAlso Hamura is gonna be involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hamura isn't going to turn evil, and Orochimaru is still stuck in Infinite Tsukuyomi. Sorry, but Sasuke is the final villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hamura isn't going to turn evil, and Orochimaru is still stuck in Infinite Tsukuyomi. Sorry, but Sasuke is the final villain.I really some how doubt he's gonna be the final villain. Sasuke cannot die in this fight, Madara turns good before he dies. Way too happy of an ending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I said that Madara refused to turn good, and just because Sasuke can't die doesn't mean he can't be the final villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 I said that Madara refused to turn good, and just because Sasuke can't die doesn't mean he can't be the final villain.Depending on the translation he does turn.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 No chapter this week.But look at these Sasuke and Kakashi Last Movie sketches.WellHuh.Didn't expect to see Sasuke. And actually kinda like his look, not gonna lie.Fun fact about it, initial concept designs for Sasuke involved all those necklaces; they were ultimately scrapped to make him easier to draw, but now I see Kishi finally included them for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 And to the surprise of no one, Sasuke is going to survive. And I agree, I like that he's finally getting the design Kishimoto initially intended on, though now I'm curious if Naruto ruins his hand during this final fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 And to the surprise of no one, Sasuke is going to survive. And I agree, I like that he's finally getting the design Kishimoto initially intended on, though now I'm curious if Naruto ruins his hand during this final fight.I was wondering if maybe it was to keep the seal Rikudo gave him in check.And Sasuke has his left hand bandaged similarly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Fun fact about it, initial concept designs for Sasuke involved all those necklaces; they were ultimately scrapped to make him easier to draw, but now I see Kishi finally included them for him. 'Course, he's taking advantage of the fact that Sasuke will be animated by a bunch of other guys so he won't need to draw Sasuke and all his necklaces in every panel anymore. But still, it's pretty touching~ Gives the movie an extra sense of legitimacy~ Depending on the translation he does turn.... Alright, look, movie comes out in December 6. Right now it's September 20th, so Kishi has at most eleven chapters to finish the manga, and that's assuming that he plans on ending things a mere day before the release of the actual movie itself. Now, I'm personally betting that he'll end it a week or two before, so that leaves us with nine or ten chapters left to do the battle with Sasuke and ultimately conclude the long, long legacy of Naruto with all its thematics... ...and you think that, within the span of - again, at most - eleven chapters which could otherwise be used to set up the ultimate epilogue, Kishimoto will somehow be able to fit in a battle with yet another final villain? Yeeeeaaaaah, I don't think so. Sorry but I just don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Well, the original Naruto and Sasuke fight lasted 7-8 chapters (with the 8th simply being the fallout from after the last Chidori-Rasengan clash); I don't know if this fight'll be as long or if it will be, but something to keep in mind as we go, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted September 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 If he does chapter chapters again, or at least has the battle end exactly, at 700, that still gives him a few chapters of wrap-up. Of course, the last chapter, at this point, really has to be extremely long. Like, three times the length of normal chapters. Hopefully he makes the most of it so the manga doesn't end on a "watch the movie" note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 If he does chapter chapters again, or at least has the battle end exactly, at 700, that still gives him a few chapters of wrap-up. Of course, the last chapter, at this point, really has to be extremely long. Like, three times the length of normal chapters. Hopefully he makes the most of it so the manga doesn't end on a "watch the movie" note. Naruto would have +45 pages when it ends. Most of the major shonen series get 40 and Naruto being, well, Naruto, is likely to get more. My money is still on 700 being the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 Did Sasuke just turn evil again? That wasn't even necessary. Everything was going fine but now he turns evil again for no reason whatsoever. Somebody just resummon Itachi and have him slug Sasuke already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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