Naruto

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

Good to see Sakura finally acknowledge the obvious.

 

Well, we know the Rinnegan has at least one more power to explore, so there must still be a bit of fight action left. However, I imagine that there is a third power, one for the right eye, one for the left eye, and one for both.

 

However, now it looks like Sasuke and Madara have the same eye.

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

best panel

[Merci]

Jeez, after all that talk about Team 7 and the bell test thing, it's still just Naruto and Sasuke going to rescue. Seriously? What was all that foreshadowing and that dramatic flashback in the previous chapter for?

 

Eh, anyway, hello Infinite Tsukuyomi.

[Fusion X. Denver]

Thought Sakura was gonna do something there for a second...nope.

I'm almost wondering if my original prediction's gonna come true. Obito's actually still barely alive (since that was in no way a send-off) and he gets Naruto and Sasuke into the Kamui dimension just in time. And either he goes with them, talks with them one more time, then sends them back, or he sends Kakashi back with them and Kakashi will use his discarded eye to get them back.

Or maybe Sasuke's Rinnegan's power is to space-time travel too, and he'll get them back that way.

[·Toot]

That forehead vagina was gross. No matter how many power ups she gets, Sakura will always remain useless. I think Sasuke will get tht eye. I want to believe Obito will snap out of it, but I think that Sasuke will pull a Madara and swiper no swipe his eye. He'd probably use it and we get a boring chapter about Obito's thoughts.

[vla1ne]

that was depressingly goood and bad at the same time. for some reason it seems like sakura running to get herself stabbed was kishimoto's way of trying to put her on hinata's level of determination. then again, it seems like she's finally learning that sauke is narutosexual(He was once itachisexual, but he finally got over that).

 

on the other note, looks like naruto and sauke are about to be forced to use their full power from here on out, so that's a plus. and while i saw that 3rd eye coming, the cause of it does raise a few questions.

 

Like does proximity to the moon cause the 3rd eye to appear in anybody with 2 rinnegan, or is it specific to those who posess moon-blood and rinnegan?

 

Is there a way to break out of the genjutsu using other eye types, and is it possible that the people aware of what the genjtsu does can just spend the rest of this fight with their heads facing away from the moon and remain unaffected(because if they can establish communication with shikamaru for his strategies this fight would get far less complex.)

[Merci]

Is there a way to break out of the genjutsu using other eye types,

The Rinnegan is the most powerful Dojutsu, and not only are there two of them in the possession of their original owner, but they also happen to be powered by the FREAKING JINCHUURIKI OF THE JUUBI. Plus, it's so powerful that it's wide enough to reflect off the moon and enshroud the planet in a constant stream of dreams.

 

Can you list anything that can beat that? Nope, didn't think so. I suppose Naruto's and Sasuke's new Six Path Powers can resist it, but apart from that, it's hopeless for everyone. No one can hope to beat such a technique. Infinite Tsukuyomi is infinite.

 

 

and is it possible that the people aware of what the genjtsu does can just spend the rest of this fight with their heads facing away from the moon and remain unaffected(because if they can establish communication with shikamaru for his strategies this fight would get far less complex.)

Do you know how light works? ^_^ Let's say you're outside, and it's daytime. You can see, right? You can see a whole lot of stuff. It's not dark, it's light, thanks to the sun. You're not facing the sun, but you're still seeing its light. The same probably applies to a genjutsu reflected off the moon. The genjutsu won't just envelop you when you face the moon, since it'll be everywhere. Reflected onto the whole of half the planet.

 

So no, facing away from the moon won't help.

[vla1ne]

The Rinnegan is the most powerful Dojutsu, and not only are there two of them in the possession of their original owner, but they also happen to be powered by the FREAKING JINCHUURIKI OF THE JUUBI. Plus, it's so powerful that it's wide enough to reflect off the moon and enshroud the planet in a constant stream of dreams.

 

Can you list anything that can beat that? Nope, didn't think so. I suppose Naruto's and Sasuke's new Six Path Powers can resist it, but apart from that, it's hopeless for everyone. No one can hope to beat such a technique. Infinite Tsukuyomi is infinite.

 

 

 

Do you know how light works? ^_^ Let's say you're outside, and it's daytime. You can see, right? You can see a whole lot of stuff. It's not dark, it's light, thanks to the sun. You're not facing the sun, but you're still seeing its light. The same probably applies to a genjutsu reflected off the moon. The genjutsu won't just envelop you when you face the moon, since it'll be everywhere. Reflected onto the whole of half the planet.

 

So no, facing away from the moon won't help.

I figured as much. but in that case, I'm still thinking that there should be another method of breaking out of it that might not be as difficult as you think. the problem is that it's nighttime in the manga, and every method i can think of to negate it would require something like a midday sun, and unless somebody has a light/chakra manipulation jutsu, they won't matter anyways.

 

about the eye jutsu, it might be the strongest eye, but sauke's eye seems to be something on an entirely different level. if madara can use his to trigger it, then sauke might be able to use his to either seal, or at least weaken it somehow. the problem is he only has 1 eye to work with while madara has 3...

 

also, this manga doesn't seem very ninja-like anymore does it? I can't remember the laast time i saw a kunai stealth kill get used. I still like it though, I'm just saying.

[Tentacruel]

I figured as much. but in that case, I'm still thinking that there should be another method of breaking out of it that might not be as difficult as you think. the problem is that it's nighttime in the manga, and every method i can think of to negate it would require something like a midday sun, and unless somebody has a light/chakra manipulation jutsu, they won't matter anyways.

 

about the eye jutsu, it might be the strongest eye, but sauke's eye seems to be something on an entirely different level. if madara can use his to trigger it, then sauke might be able to use his to either seal, or at least weaken it somehow. the problem is he only has 1 eye to work with while madara has 3...

 

also, this manga doesn't seem very ninja-like anymore does it? I can't remember the laast time i saw a kunai stealth kill get used. I still like it though, I'm just saying.

I don't think anyone has ever been killed by a kunai.

 

But yeah, it really has nothing to do with ninjas anymore. 

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

I vaguely remember Kishi's original version of Naruto being more mystical than ninja-esque, and I think that still follows through here. After all, the last color you would expect a ninja to ever dress up in is neon orange.

 

Anyway, if the Eternal Tsukuyomi proves easy to break, I will not be happy. Although, I expect Naruto and Sasuke to have some resistance to it after gaining powers from Hagoromo.

[Merci]

Well, to be fair, I don't believe that Kishimoto ever intended them to be 'ninja' in the way we understand them. From the very beginning they were never assassins, or silent killers. They're more like stealthy warriors with the ability to use ninjutsu.

 

[spoiler=Insight into the ninja of the Naruto World]

Wikipedia describes it as this:

Ninjutsu (忍術) sometimes used interchangeably with the modern term ninpō (忍法) is the martial art, strategy, and tactics of unconventional warfare as well as the art of espionage purportedly practiced by the shinobi (commonly known outside of Japan as ninja). Ninjutsu was more an art of tricks, than a martial art.

In other words, that's what Kishimoto writes ninja as. Warriors that are stealthy and utilize unconventional warfare, mixed in with the art of tricks (more common during the original series, with the most notable example being the Substitution Jutsu). Unlike modern martial arts, it's not centralized and can hence to apply to wide variety of subjects.

 

Within the work itself, if we were to look at this logically, it's only natural that it would end up as a world filled with shinobi. Thanks to the Sage of the Six Paths, chakra was spread across throughout most of humanity. However, despite the fact that his intention was to establish a network in which everyone could understand each other, they rebelled, taking the chakra for themselves and deciding to use it for power. If you look at it another way, mankind tricked him into giving them power, but then refused to listen to his words. They didn't trust him, and they didn't trust each other. This cycle of trickery and deception would only continue in tandem with warfare, thanks to ninjutsu.

 

While there is a structure of order in the current Naruto world, thanks to Hashirama's original efforts to unite clans to build Konoha within a chaotic, warring world, it isn't very good. Many clans have their own special techniques, and while they may have an ideal to follow (like the Will of Fire), they're still fairly disorganized, compared to what you'd see in a feudal army filled with samurai, which would have a disciplined code of honour to abide by.

 

To put it simply, the very fact that there are shinobi around - and that they use deception, trickery, lies, manipulation, and the power to reinforce their words - shows that the world is in a chaotic state. The ninja in Kishi's world are both warriors and assassins. Every single fighter, as a shinobi, is someone who can never truly be trusted. That's what they represent.

 

And that's why Naruto's so special. Because he tells the truth as he sees it. The thing is when people make fun of his orange suit and how such a loudmouthed guy can possibly be a ninja, they're absolutely right. Not about the colour, but about him.

 

Naruto Uzumaki is not a ninja. He is a talker. His true power is seriously Talk no Jutsu.

 

Many people hate TnJ. They just want to see their characters gain a new powerup, scream loudly, and beat down Character X, and then win. But they fail to see the point that Kishi continually tries to present. The thing is, it's this tendency to start fights that has wars begin in the first place. It's what Nagato, Obito and Madara have been saying over and over and over and over again, and why they each strive to end it their own way. The former with fear, the latter two with a perfect illusion. Both with their own form of deception, their own 'false reality'. Ironically, I think Naruto Uzumaki is just about the only ninja who thinks the same way they do, but he's different in that he doesn't deceive anyone.

 

If, in the world, they were all samurais or knights or whatever, then trusting wouldn't be as huge a matter. But since they're shinobi, there's no telling when someone might betray you, and there's no telling if you'll kill them for it. Since they're shinobi, they are by nature inclined to do things that eventually affect things behind the background and start new wars, new conflicts.

 

The point of the Naruto series has always been to overcome the desire to start conflicts. It's a Shounen series, sure, and the ninja are there as a way to symbolize the shroud of constant mistrust that cover the world.

 

 

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

Sasuke will break out of it through his Rinnegan/Sharingan combo & Naruto will be awoken from it by the bijuu's that reside within him.

[Fusion X. Denver]

[spoiler=Think Mangastream missed a panel during uploading]

 

[Phantom Roxas]

New chapter.

[Kakashi Hatake]

[spoiler=So...]

Yamamoto looks like he's gonna be a real badass from here on. Who saw that coming? Not me.

 

 

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

Welcome to the Despair Event Horizon.

[Monkey]

So Yamato planned this entire sequence out?

[Kakashi Hatake]

So Yamato planned this entire sequence out?

he aizen now

[·Toot]

Well it is all as predicted. Oh and Hinata looks so hot with the Rinnegan. lol j/s

[Flame Dragon]

Yamato was kidnapped LONG ago and is likely just being used. I remember when we first say something under that Zetsu a lot of people were saying it would be him. Nice to see that he wasn't forgotten though. Also nice to see that Bee isn't dead. Would like to know how though. My guess is he pulled the same stunt from earlier, only this time he gave up most of the eight tails.

 

Anyway, this was all more or less expected.

[Phantom Roxas]

Pretty sure Yamato is being controlled by Spiral Zetsu. Still, glad to see him.

 

The only character missing right now is Anko, right?

[Fusion X. Denver]

Ah, figured it was Yamato.

 

Interesting that Edo Tensei zombies are immune. I'm guessing they'll use the ninja tools to seal the moon or something nutty like that.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Well it is all as predicted. Oh and Hinata looks so hot with the Rinnegan. lol j/s

 

"Dang, giiirl, you lookin' so hot with those rapey hypnotized eyes. Dose round lines and soulless, hypnotized eyes are damn fine, giiirl, you busy later? Not because of the rapey, hipnotized lines eyes or anything, but dang, girl, those rapey eyes are hot."

[·Toot]

"Dang, giiirl, you lookin' so hot with those rapey hypnotized eyes. Dose round lines and soulless, hypnotized eyes are damn fine, giiirl, you busy later? Not because of the rapey, hipnotized lines eyes or anything, but dang, girl, those rapey eyes are hot."

lmao what?

[Philemon]

he aizen now

 

I thought Aoba was Aizen? His favorite phrase is even "Just as planned".