Naruto

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

Obito became a Hollow. Kubo phoned Kishimoto and bought Obito's character so he can use him in Bleach. Called it. 

[Legend Zero]

The 3-Tail thing is really boring, imo. He should have made the reveal differently. Like, when Naruto was learning all the Tailed Beast's names Rin could've been with the 3-Tails (although Yagura is cooler) and given Naruto a message or something.

[Merci]

I don't think it's possible to make the plot twist any more dramatic than dragging Kakashi into an OOC moment. Besides, I guess Kishimoto just wanted to add an additional bijuu-related plot point.

 

But I do have to wonder, how did the Sanbi get to that lake thing if its host was killed? From what we learned about the Kyuubi, if the jinchuuriki dies, so does the bijuu itself. I can't think of an answer.

 

As for the chapter itself, I found it kind of boring. But that's only because I'm the kind of guy who likes philosophical discussions, monologues, or action scenes, none of which this chapter had. Still, I can accept it, since this chapter seems to be just a lead-up into something greater. Not surprised about the whole Obito thing, it's only to be expected after what he went through.

[Fusion X. Denver]

But I do have to wonder, how did the Sanbi get to that lake thing if its host was killed? From what we learned about the Kyuubi, if the jinchuuriki dies, so does the bijuu itself. I can't think of an answer.

 

As for the chapter itself, I found it kind of boring. But that's only because I'm the kind of guy who likes philosophical discussions, monologues, or action scenes, none of which this chapter had. Still, I can accept it, since this chapter seems to be just a lead-up into something greater. Not surprised about the whole Obito thing, it's only to be expected after what he went through.

That was kind of retconned when the Raikage thought about killing Naruto and during the Fox Attack flashback. Instead of the Bijuu dying, it remains dormant inside the dead body for a while, but then it'll escape in full form. There's a significant gap of time between then and the death though, so there's almost always time to prepare a new host for it.

Which I'm guessing didn't work out when Yagura died.

 

As for me, this chapter was ace.

First they addressed why Kakashi couldn't just kill Obito when he snuck into the Kamui dimension the first time; he's still holding out for Obito.

Even if he did, apparently it won't work out...

And then the Rin thing. It gave Obito a good reason for posing as the Mizukage later on and it also added depth for Obito. I know people were bummed that he seemed to be doing all of this over the girl he loved years ago, but it's more on the ideology of the shinobi world that forced that and other tragic things to happen, and that is a much stronger motivation that I can accept.

 

The one thing I'm confused on is how this fits with the timeline. I'm guessing this was done under the 3rd Mizukage's rule, so Yagura was made the new Jinchuriki and Kage after Rin died, since we see him being directly manipulated by Obito later when they meet Kisame.

But if he was under Obito's control, then how did Obito not extract it and let the 3-Tails roam free for a while?

 

Oh, and about damn time Naruto ran out of gas. Seriously, he should've been kaput 10 chapters ago >.>

[Legend Zero]

A friend of mine just mentioned this. But now that Obito is a major plot point and stuff it really does make Sakura the only one from Team 7 without a major part in the final battle.

[Fusion X. Denver]

A friend of mine just mentioned this. But now that Obito is a major plot point and stuff it really does make Sakura the only one from Team 7 without a major part in the final battle.

So far

[spoiler=To be honest, I think Sakura's]

gonna die.

She'll die and be the last push of motivation for Naruto, Kakashi, maybe even Sasuke to take down the bad guys.

Plus, Kishimoto's been showing her having a lot of close calls lately. This chapter and last chapter, then with Kakashi pulling her out of the way right before one of the Juubi's spikes hit her.

 

 

[Phantom Roxas]

Sakura has been irrelevant for a long time. Even before the Obito reveal, Kakashi was more important than she ever could be.

 

Obito chose Kiri because he wanted them to experience firsthand the brutality that they had to endure. Yagura was for personal reasons, although aren't the Jinchuuriki supposed to be connected to their respective Kage in some way? I guess they broke that agreement because picking any weakling who came along would make it so that Isobu would be all the more likely to go on a rampage.

[Lt. Colonel Remo]

So far

[spoiler=To be honest, I think Sakura's]

gonna die.

She'll die and be the last push of motivation for Naruto, Kakashi, maybe even Sasuke to take down the bad guys.

Plus, Kishimoto's been showing her having a lot of close calls lately. This chapter and last chapter, then with Kakashi pulling her out of the way right before one of the Juubi's spikes hit her.

 

 

[spoiler I literally hypothesized the exact same thing]

And Naruto will prove Obito wrong by being able to live through it all and keeping his promise to her whilst also keeping his ideals intact

 

That's how the cliche goes, right?

 

 

[Strider Tigerwolf]

Pretty much.

 

And lol @ bleach moment.

[Fusion X. Denver]

[spoiler I literally hypothesized the exact same thing]

And Naruto will prove Obito wrong by being able to live through it all and keeping his promise to her whilst also keeping his ideals intact

 

That's how the cliche goes, right?

 

 

Oh

Snap.

I didn't even notice that parallel.

Yeah, I think this is what's gonna happen. Should be nice character drama.

[Phantom Roxas]

Or Hinata dies, making Neji's sacrifice in vain.

[Monkey]

Or Hinata dies, making Neji's sacrifice in vain.

But it's ok because when this is all over, everybody will be reborn again, just like what Nagato did... -_-

[Fusion X. Denver]

Eh, I feel like if he killed Hinata off though, it'd feel he deliberately did it just for shock value.

The other thing is, Hinata's death was already teased back with Pain. We've seen Naruto go apeshit over something happening to her once, it won't happen again.

Sakura dying would just devastate him though, and she'd probably inspire him with her last words that would end up renewing his strength to win the whole thing.

Maybe she'd even get something out of Sasuke to help shift him more towards his redemption again.

 

 

But it's ok because when this is all over, everybody will be reborn again, just like what Nagato did... -_-

I'm probably taking this much too seriously since it sounds like you're half-kidding, but I've heard this before and I really don't think he'd do that again.

There's this paranoia that Kishi will repeat used plot twists/devices/whatever that I've seen everywhere and I honestly think it's jumping the gun a lot. Have some faith in his storytelling.

[Flame Dragon]

Unlike other series I don't think Kishi hits on the same plot points all that often. He's a fan of drawing parallels between characters but once an idea comes up he isn't really one to keep going back to it. At least I never found him to.

 

 

Also, does anyone know when the filler is going to end? Its like, we haven't even started the second half of the war, you can stop with the filler now.

[Phantom Roxas]

Seriously, I've been waiting for my brother's girlfriend to find out about Madara, since she follows the anime instead of the manga. Is it really too much to ask for them to get to that part at least?

[Kakashi Hatake]

Seriously, I've been waiting for my brother's girlfriend to find out about Madara, since she follows the anime instead of the manga. Is it really too much to ask for them to get to that part at least?

What, does she try to insist that Tobi is Madara while you try not to give spoilers? xD

[Phantom Roxas]

Actually, yes. Since she hasn't seen the part where Edo Madara has shown up, I try to make sure that she doesn't know Tobi isn't Madara.

[Fusion X. Denver]

Actually, yes. Since she hasn't seen the part where Edo Madara has shown up, I try to make sure that she doesn't know Tobi isn't Madara.

Wouldn't the new opening have spoiled her by now though?

 

And I wish I knew. See, they shouldn't be doing filler around random edo-zombies they made up, they should be focusing on some of the dead people Kishi didn't focus on like Chiyo and Kimimaro, or Dan, or anyone really.

[Flame Dragon]

Wouldn't the new opening have spoiled her by now though?

 

And I wish I knew. See, they shouldn't be doing filler around random edo-zombies they made up, they should be focusing on some of the dead people Kishi didn't focus on like Chiyo and Kimimaro, or Dan, or anyone really.

 

 

Agreed. The fact that th filler seems to be just random stories is frustrating when we have tons of cool characters running around atm.

[Fusion X. Denver]

Massively frustrating, yes.

What makes it worse?

We know Studio Pierrot is actually capable of making good filler with cool action and storytelling after the "Power" arc. So them reverting back to this quality is pretty disappointing.

[Monkey]

@NeoFusion

 

I was being completely sarcastic with that comment about Kishi repeating what Nagato did. I REALLY hope he doesn't do it again

[Phantom Roxas]

Wouldn't the new opening have spoiled her by now though?

Yeah, I had asked her if the opening had spoiled that for her, but I don't think she noticed it somehow. She does try to avoid stuff like previews for next episodes, so it could be that she was trying to not let the opening spoil things for her.

[Merci]

And I wish I knew. See, they shouldn't be doing filler around random edo-zombies they made up, they should be focusing on some of the dead people Kishi didn't focus on like Chiyo and Kimimaro, or Dan, or anyone really.

 

I'm SERIOUSLY disappointed with how they handled the two during the Hanzo battle. All they did was reuse the same animations from before and showed nothing more than them jumping around and slashing randomly. Ugh.

 

Oh, and the anime hasn't mentioned Raiga Kurosuki. At all. I know he's just filler in the manga, but jeez, he existed in the anime and Kishi actually had the decency to reuse his blades! I think that should deserve a mention or two to the guy, don't you think? The fact that an episode focused on Ringo Ameyuri (a character I actually liked from the expanded filler she was given) only makes it more painful. To quote the wiki:

• Though Raiga is an anime-only character, there are no references of him in Shippūden episode 289, focused on Ameyuri Ringo, the predecessor of the Kiba (the swords which were adapted from the anime).

[Northern Sage]

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/630/3

Hey guys, stuff.

And... Talk no Jutsu.

Naruto's reaction was pretty strange.

[Phantom Roxas]

Jegus, that was awesome. Shikamaru once again coming up with a plan like a boss, Kakashi turning Obito's philosophy against him and then expanding on it, and DAT ENDING.