Monkey Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 So I wonder what pisses off Madara so much that he turns so evil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 I don't think Madara is outright evil. Most main villains in the Narutoverse aren't outright evil, having a more... twisted view of good and/or not caring about how they pursue it. Nagato should be obvious, Obito's trying to end pain because he believes nothing good comes out of reality, and I assume Madara's going for a similar goal. The only main that I can truly call evil is Orochimaru, and I'm not even sure that fits him anymore. Hashirama already said that the problem with the Uchiha is that their emotions run way too high, so it's likely he overloaded on pain and loss and felt that restarting from scratch would be better, Even Sasuke wasn't so much evil as chasing vengeance for his clan. Yes, he became... dark, per se, but he was never "evil", just pursuing what he felt was righteous judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Wait a minute… All we know is that Izuna died in battle. I think Hashirama killed Izuna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Wait a minute… All we know is that Izuna died in battle. I think Hashirama killed Izuna.And didn't Izuna give up his eyes? So that might explain why Hashirama may not have recognizes that he was an Uchiha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Hashirama killing Izuna....hmmm...I doubt that, but not completely. I'm thinking that maybe it was Tobirama who would've killed Izuna instead, Madara becomes what he is now (present) due to his brother's loss but obtains his eyes, goes nuts and seeks out power in order to attempt revenge (Sasuke moment), and eventually leads up to what has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Now ain't that some sh*t... I wonder how this is gonna end... Well we know Tobirama and Izuna will come out alive. But what of the adults? Hehe nice chapter thar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Tobirama and Izuna are definitely going to survive this battle, but Izuna will have to die later. At this point, I'm certain that things that could be blamed on Madara or Danzo can now be traced to Tobirama. Nice going, Second Hokage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Naruto is basically a series of bastards whose actions are due to other bastards who all have good intentions, sans Part 1 Orochimaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 The only main that I can truly call evil is Orochimaru, and I'm not even sure that fits him anymore. Orochimaru didn't care about the state of the world or his 'friends' and 'allies', nor the many tens of thousands of ten thousands of lives he ruined. All he cared about was learning all the jutsu in the world, and not even the death and corruption of cute little kids stopped him - so he's evil. The only evil guy around. Naruto is basically a series of a******s whose actions are due to other a******s who all have good intentions, sans Part 1 Orochimaru. You summed it up perfectly. To teach us a lesson about the consequences of our 'benevolent' actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 You summed it up perfectly. To teach us a lesson about the consequences of our 'benevolent' actions. As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. It is nice that Naruto tends to have characters that act for more then the evilz of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Wait, I meant Tobirama killed Izuna. It works with their rivalry, and Tobirama does have the Uchiha. Plus it would make his reason for hating Madara his own fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Orochimaru didn't care about the state of the world or his 'friends' and 'allies', nor the many tens of thousands of ten thousands of lives he ruined. All he cared about was learning all the jutsu in the world, and not even the death and corruption of cute little kids stopped him - so he's evil. The only evil guy aroundI said "anymore" given how he's been actin lately, and even then maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Orochimaru didn't care about the state of the world or his 'friends' and 'allies', nor the many tens of thousands of ten thousands of lives he ruined. All he cared about was learning all the jutsu in the world, and not even the death and corruption of cute little kids stopped him - so he's evil. The only evil guy around.The moment I read that... That came to mind...so yes. I'm going to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 So, how was this weeks filler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 So, how was this weeks filler?[spoiler=Well]Meh, could have been a lot better.They all obviously overcame their old respective foes, but there was no interesting action.[spoiler=Until...]The Sound 4 dragged Shikamaru, Choji, Kiba and Neji into Hell. Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 So… No ShikaTema, I take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 So… No ShikaTema, I take it?NONE WHATSOEVER 8D [spoiler=I dunno though,]maybe Temari will worry about him after seeing him teleported away by that one chick she killed a few years back and that could count for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 The manga is on a break this week, isn't it? -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Yea, but if you we've known about it since last week. What sucked was when One Piece also went on break without notice since Oda got sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 [spoiler=About the filler last week, I lied]The "Underworld" is just some super-barrier that no one can get out of unless someone comes and gives chakra like genjutsu disruption.So basically, Naruto's going to bail them out in an episode or two.Not much inspiring action this week either. What really bugs me is how Studio Pierrot's being lazy with this arc when we know they can do better after seeing Chikara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/624/3 Early chapter is very early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Damn... He's the one who killed Tobirama... Owai... I wonder how this'll turn out. Something's telling me he's gonna kill off all of his clan except for Tobirama. /Itachi RQ: So is Tsunade's surname Senju? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 My computer's telling me that mangapanda has malware that may infect my computer... ...Oh well, doesn't matter. Reading the naruto manga is more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 That makes sense why Madara ended up cementing his hatred then.And obviously Hashirama won't listen to what he says. He goes on to form the Hidden Leaf as their First Hokage with his brother following him.What I realized after reading was that the last battle in the chapter wasn't the Final Valley one, that comes later. But good stuff, I'm still very invested in this flashback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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