Naruto

[Phantom Roxas]

And to think I actually doubted kishi...you know what? I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut about him+naruto in development from now on and just read the damn thing.

Anyways, I do think Rin could be Senju/Uzumaki, + add the fact that she could have gained/had information about The Rain/The Flame Village(s) and her information as well as body would be a key factor in deciding not just a battle but a tremendous piece of the war. This would indicate why Kakashi had to kill Rin: To protect and keep those secrets from being exploited by the enemy. Unfortunately, his Mangyeko awakens...and he loses consciousness unable to keep up with the mission. Lucky for him, Obito goes on a rampage unknownly using his Mangyeko through-out the entire time.

As for why Obitobi didn't use the "Senju" techniques in the present:

• Needed to keep a low profile
  
• Was acting under the name "Madara Uchiha"
  

Those 2 reasons are actually more than enough to justify his not using the technique, and even then he only reveled that he had the power of the "Senju" running through him to those he "had to kill". Example:

I don't blame the guy either for keeping his history secret from most. It's helped him get this far and now those secrets are starting to unravel and it's giving our good guys a fighting chance.

 

Wow, good catch. I didn't even remember that he had said that he had the power of the Senju, and now we know how.

 

I never said it did.

 

I know, but I reject the notion that Part II was better than Part I.

[Kakashi Hatake]

I know, but I reject the notion that Part II was better than Part I.

Part II being Shippuden, right? I don't know if I can agree with you, yo.

[Phantom Roxas]

Oh wait, I meant the idea that Shippuden was NOT better than Part 1.

 

No, I totally agree with you.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

There are a few moments were Obito had to use his mangyeko or at least there the most logical points in which he would need to use them. Dei's final explosion, & Itachi's fail safe he added to Sasuke.

[Fusion X. Denver]

Itachi's fail safe he added to Sasuke.

 

Actually wait

We know Amaterasu caught him on fire because he was caught off guard and screamed his a*s off.

So how DID he put it out? He could warp the parts on fire, sure, but wouldn't they still be burning even after coming back?

[Phantom Roxas]

I'm guessing he let the arm burn off in Kamui's dimension and then he grew a new one.

[Fusion X. Denver]

I'm guessing he let the arm burn off in Kamui's dimension and then he grew a new one.

 

He has to go to the Zetsu plant to replenish his arm though, doesn't he?

And he has it here right when he came back.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v43/c397/10.html

Unless he quickly warped over to there and then came back, but I somehow don't think he could have done all that in the short amount of time that passed.

[Phantom Roxas]

See, that's what I thought, but...

 

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c475/11.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v51/c475/15.html

 

Really, this just doesn't explain why he didn't just get a new one after he fought Konan.

[Fusion X. Denver]

See, that's what I thought, but...

 

http://www.mangahere...51/c475/11.html

http://www.mangahere...51/c475/15.html

 

Really, this just doesn't explain why he didn't just get a new one after he fought Konan.

 

If you're saying his arm's back in the 2nd link, it's just his sleeve. When you see him observing the battle later, you can tell it's an empty sleeve.

[Kakashi Hatake]

Don't question Obito. He grows back his arms when he wants, not when it's convinient for you people.

[Mr.WHAM]

I just noticed that the diamond on Tsunade's head is still present, so there might actually be a chance that she survives whatever happens. We'll see.

[✪RION]

I'm starting to think that kishi's doesn't plan his story ahead now... Don't flame me, just an honest opinion!

 

Thought that the bloody mist name was used during Yagura's era when he was under Tobi's control. Which makes me still think that Madara did act as Tobi before.

 

The way that both Kakashi and Obito got their Mangekyō was cool. Kakashi unlocking the Mangekyō for both of them is a nice touch since Madara did says that both user need to be close so their eye can evolve/grow strong.. something like that.

 

But why is it Kakashi was never shown or reference at all that he already unlock his Mangekyō.

 

Always thought that he got that prior to the start of Shippuden. If he doesn't know that he already unlock the Mangekyō, wonder what was his first reaction when he used it for the first time... I wonder who did he think he kill to get it.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

He didn't warp his arm or anything.

 

He warped the Amaterasu flames. Remember, he can warp anything near him as well. For example, various people.

[Tentacruel]

But why is it Kakashi was never shown or reference at all that he already unlock his Mangekyō.

 

Always thought that he got that prior to the start of Shippuden. If he doesn't know that he already unlock the Mangekyō, wonder what was his first reaction when he used it for the first time... I wonder who did he think he kill to get it.

 

He unlocked it and fell unconscious. He probably just couldn't harness its power and control it until then.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

He didn't warp his arm or anything.

 

He warped the Amaterasu flames. Remember, he can warp anything near him as well. For example, various people.

 

This...

 

He unlocked it and fell unconscious. He probably just couldn't harness its power and control it until then.

 

And this.

 

Basically, Kakashi aided in Unlocking the eye, but because he "non-Uchiha" he passe out and fails to recall he awakened it...until during the two year lapse that happened between "Part 1" and "Part 2" (not calling them Naruto and Naruto Shippuden). Something...must have happened, and he must have realized that he too has the Mangyeko Sharingan, and then decides to recall that feeling, is able to awaken the Mangyeko and then realizes why he passed out. Though practice he increases his Chakra levels so that he can use his Mangyeko about twice before adding more skill and precision to the technique through-out "Part 2".

[Fusion X. Denver]

Ah. Right. Guess I had a brain fart there.

 

On a side note, Roxas, the next episode's apparently about one of the Seven Swordsman Kakashi and his squad are fighting. You're getting your wish.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

The episode after the Seven Swordsman one is about Pakura, or so Wikipedia would claim.

 

This leads me to believe that they are going to alternate between main story and filler.

[·Toot]

I know this question is a bit late, but why does the Zetsu in Tobi's flashback have a swirly face? If that is where's he got that mask, then what's happened toy the mask he had on during the fight with Minato? More than 1 Tobi? Lol. But really, I was just a bit curious.

[Sleepy]

The way that both Kakashi and Obito got their Mangekyō was cool. Kakashi unlocking the Mangekyō for both of them is a nice touch since Madara did says that both user need to be close so their eye can evolve/grow strong.. something like that.

 

I thought it was because Obito witnessed the death of the most important person for him more than they having to be together.

Another theory would be that, Rin might have been just as important for Kakashi, making their simultaneous Mangekyo awakening a coincidence.

[Strider Tigerwolf]

I know this question is a bit late, but why does the Zetsu in Tobi's flashback have a swirly face? If that is where's he got that mask, then what's happened toy the mask he had on during the fight with Minato? More than 1 Tobi? Lol. But really, I was just a bit curious.

 

I get the feeling he fashions these masks from Zetsus, which is why some are different.

 

I thought it was because Obito witnessed the death of the most important person for him more than they having to be together.

Another theory would be that, Rin might have been just as important for Kakashi, making their simultaneous Mangekyo awakening a coincidence.

 

fixed coincidence for ya :P but yeah, it was most likely that.

[Merci]

Oh yeah, about the anime, I recently got myself all the episodes up to the latest and I've been putting myself up to date.

 

Let me just say this about the animations for the latest fifty episodes; low quality.

 

I mean, it's great that they had expanded all the Edo Tensei battles, ESPECIALLY the attack of the Gedo Mazo and the battle against Kakuzu, but everything else...one of the things I really didn't like was the battle between Hanzo and that samurai guy. Although the exposition was touching, the animation was just horrible. And Kimimaro's animations were just reused from the previous anime, he hardly got any exposition at all. That sucked the most.

 

Well, pretty much all the episodes have flashbacks that probably account for almost half the whole episode. I can accept that. Only, the animation of the battles are pretty slow, that's what bothered me. The Sasuke battles during the previous arc had lacked shading, but at least it had smooth battle animations.

 

There was a filler episode I particularly enjoyed, about Deidara after escaping from his sealing and his journey to try and find the 'Super Ultimate Art'. He was pretty much powerless without clay, surprisingly so for a former memeber of Akatsuki. xD after being recaptured, he got the idea for the Super Ultimate Art so...I hope a second filler episode will continue that, before Kabutomaru is defeated~

 

Oh, and the battle against the Seven Swordsmen was halted for the next dozen episodes. Although Kakashi declares 'THE COPY NINJA IS GOING TO GO WILD', we don't ever see the battle except during a single scene when they're in the midst of battle (Kakashi's wielding Zabuza's blade) and all the Edo Tensei zombies retreat for the night. And it's mentioned by the Kage that they (the shinobi) were having the advantage. But it's good that we're finally returning to that battle...the next day.

 

That's my opinion on the anime as of late.

[Fusion X. Denver]

Guys

The Mist ninja all wore the same type of mask that Haku wore.

Wasn't their goal to hunt down their missing ninja and dispose of the corpses to conceal their secrets?

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

That's specifically for Hunter-nin. And as far as I know, Hunter-nin are only from Kiri. Not that there is any difference between them and ANBU.

 

I think Tobi's first mask was kind of a tribute to Spiral Zetsu, or perhaps it was fashioned because Tobi was comfortable with that.

 

I know this is unlikely, but I can see Madara blasting Spiral Zetsu out of existence in the coming chapters to enforce hatred into Obito. Obito and SZ have bonded (in more ways than one), and Madara seems like the type to do object lessons.

[Fusion X. Denver]

That's specifically for Hunter-nin. And as far as I know, Hunter-nin are only from Kiri. Not that there is any difference between them and ANBU.

 

I think Tobi's first mask was kind of a tribute to Spiral Zetsu, or perhaps it was fashioned because Tobi was comfortable with that.

 

I know this is unlikely, but I can see Madara blasting Spiral Zetsu out of existence in the coming chapters to enforce hatred into Obito. Obito and SZ have bonded (in more ways than one), and Madara seems like the type to do object lessons.

 

This says missing-nin.

I think that gives credibility to the theory that Rin was a Mist spy.

[FTW (For The Wynn)]

It is entirely possible that she is a spy of some sorts. And yes, they do hunt down missing-nin. However, right now, all we can do is guess what was going on.

 

Still, I didn't notice the masks in my first runthrough, so good eye.