Kakashi Hatake Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 It has nothing to do with being wrong. It has to do with the fact that it's:A. A HORRIBLE writing choice.B. Full of plot holes, such as his age.Potential C. Involves stealing another character's gimmick for no reason. If he's just Obito, then this Manga becomes complete trash.A. I don't share that opinion.B. I'll give you that.C. Stealing what character's gimmick? Trash? What is your problem with Tobi being Obito? What is so bad that you would call the manga trash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalFear Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Your probably right fusion along with the the possibility of it being some type of revive tech or puppet or something like zetzu but I figured I'd throw it out their because it is a theory and everyone was either missing that fact or just not stating it. But for all i know could quite very well be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'm calling it right now, Obito was rebuilt with Zetsu cells, which is why he was all tall and sexy when he fought Minato. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 C. Stealing what character's gimmick? Orochimaru's. Some people think whoever this is is just using Tobi's body, hence recycling the different bodies schtick Orochimaru's been doing. Actually, say Tobi turned out to be someone like the Rikudo Sage's Elder Son or Izuna or whoever.If you think about it, that really wouldn't work well as a reveal because none of his opponents would have any feasible reaction to give it more meaning. Naruto-"I got his mask off! ...Kakashi-sensei, who is that?Kakashi-"Not really sure..."Guy-"I never was good with faces."Tobi-"Sooo...I never actually needed the mask?" So actually, Obito's kind of a good writing choice, for dramatic (to some) storytelling purposes at least.Your probably right fusion along with the the possibility of it being some type of revive tech WAIT.Chiyo's Life Exchange Jutsu.Chiyo was a medical ninja.Tsunade met Chiyo on the field of battle.Recorded Chiyo intel.Rin was a medical ninja.Rin found said intel.Rin somehow found out Obito loved her.Rin gets Orochimaru to help reconstruct Obito's body and then gives her life to him.Boom. I dunno, that probably sounds really, really dumb, but I think that could actually work if polished up and done properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [spoiler=Hey, guys. I've got this crazy theory that just might work. What if... Obito... was actually...]Obito. WAIT.Chiyo's Life Exchange Jutsu.Chiyo was a medical ninja.Tsunade met Chiyo on the field of battle.Recorded Chiyo intel.Rin was a medical ninja.Rin found said intel.Rin somehow found out Obito loved her.Rin gets Orochimaru to help reconstruct Obito's body and then gives her life to him.Boom. I dunno, that probably sounds really, really dumb, but I think that could actually work if polished up and done properly.This isn't a shoujo, man. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [spoiler=Hey, guys. I've got this crazy theory that just might work. What if... Obito... was actually...]Obito. This isn't a shoujo, man. xD As long as we get a good explanation, I'm fine with that.But honestly, I wish it wasn't so. Obito was such a good kid ;__; AND A GUY CAN DREAM CAN'T HE?THAT'S WHAT ALL THE NARUHINA AND NARUSAKU SHIPPERS ARE DOING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Orochimaru's. Some people think whoever this is is just using Tobi's body, hence recycling the different bodies schtick Orochimaru's been doing. Actually, say Tobi turned out to be someone like the Rikudo Sage's Elder Son or Izuna or whoever.If you think about it, that really wouldn't work well as a reveal because none of his opponents would have any feasible reaction to give it more meaning. Naruto-"I got his mask off! ...Kakashi-sensei, who is that?Kakashi-"Not really sure..."Guy-"I never was good with faces."Tobi-"Sooo...I never actually needed the mask?" So actually, Obito's kind of a good writing choice, for dramatic (to some) storytelling purposes at least. WAIT.Chiyo's Life Exchange Jutsu.Chiyo was a medical ninja.Tsunade met Chiyo on the field of battle.Recorded Chiyo intel.Rin was a medical ninja.Rin found said intel.Rin somehow found out Obito loved her.Rin gets Orochimaru to help reconstruct Obito's body and then gives her life to him.Boom. I dunno, that probably sounds really, really dumb, but I think that could actually work if polished up and done properly. Dude, THAT is a good theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheComposer Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Rin's backstory hasn't really been built on, so I assume she'll have a big role in flashbacks in these coming chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW (For The Wynn) Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Rin's backstory hasn't really been built on, so I assume she'll have a big role in flashbacks in these coming chapters.This. Plus, we saw Obito have one very intense deathbed scene. So, there has to be an explanation as to how he "survived" and his subsequent actions from there. This set of flashbacks will probably last a good long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Which would be funny, considering how the early 500 chapters dealt with the events surrounding Naruto's birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Kishi must've known about all the speculation that Tobi = Obito over the years/months. It just seems too weird that he would just go with all the speculation and simply allow Tobi to be Obito without any conditions, ifs, ands, or buts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Kishi must've known about all the speculation that Tobi = Obito over the years/months. It just seems too weird that he would just go with all the speculation and simply allow Tobi to be Obito without any conditions, ifs, ands, or buts.This chapter was just the reveal. It wasn't "lol i'm Obito now let's continue where we left off".High chances this will get explored next chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Chiyo's Life Exchange Jutsu.Chiyo was a medical ninja.Tsunade met Chiyo on the field of battle.Recorded Chiyo intel.Rin was a medical ninja.Rin found said intel.Rin somehow found out Obito loved her.Rin gets Orochimaru to help reconstruct Obito's body and then gives her life to him.Boom. I'm sticking with this. All we know from Rin is that she died. We don't know "how" she died exactly...so there's a lot to fill in with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Kishi must've known about all the speculation that Tobi = Obito over the years/months. It just seems too weird that he would just go with all the speculation and simply allow Tobi to be Obito without any conditions, ifs, ands, or buts. Well, it'd be weird if Kishi didn't plan his identity from when he first created the character. If people happened to guess his identity from the start, well...oh well. ...I just realized this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Kishi derped, but honestly who gives a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpectralMaliceX Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Naruto gets married to the chick in the bonds movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Well, it'd be weird if Kishi didn't plan his identity from when he first created the character. If people happened to guess his identity from the start, well...oh well. ...I just realized thisWait, it's sillier than that. The shot didn't even serve any purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Wait, it's sillier than that. The shot didn't even serve any purpose. Well, it implied that Obito had a dream of becoming Hokage and having his face mounted up there one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Kishi...why do you do dis to us who anxiously want to read a good story? I'm can't put you on my mural for best Mangas next to FMA and RuroKen! D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I still don't get what everyone's problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Naruto gets married to the chick in the bonds movie.What are you saying? I still don't get what everyone's problem is.I think they're talking about Minato's face being on Hokage Summit or whatever that mountai is called and he wasn't Hokage back then, which I think he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I still don't get what everyone's problem is. Not pointing any fingers at people here, but from what I gather, most everyone I've seen on the internet's mad that they were wrong and the Obito theorists, long shunned and scorned for their "naive" and "simplistic" desires for Obito to be Tobi were in fact, right.And nothing bugs a guy more than when an "idiot" or whatever was right and you weren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Not pointing any fingers at people here, but from what I gather, most everyone I've seen on the internet's mad that they were wrong and the Obito theorists, long shunned and scorned for their "naive" and "simplistic" desires for Obito to be Tobi were in fact, right.And nothing bugs a guy more than when an "idiot" or whatever was right and you weren't.Yay! Say you're sorry! Say it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Guys, I've got it. Read this entire post please. Read chapter 503. In it, Tobi bleeds. There's white and red blood seeping out of his sleeve. This points to him being rebuilt with Zetsu cells. Zetsu very well could have something to do with Senju DNA, which would explain why he could control the 9-Tails. As for his height, Kakashi and Might Guy were shown being quite tall during that flashback. What makes it obvious he's Obito is the fact that he knew Minato, and how to infiltrate the Leaf, as well as how to force Minato to use his Flying Thunder God technique. Madara's brother would have no idea about Minato's powers. It's Obito. It's obvious. It always was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Guys, I've got it. Read this entire post please. Read chapter 503. In it, Tobi bleeds. There's white and red blood seeping out of his sleeve. This points to him being rebuilt with Zetsu cells. Zetsu very well could have something to do with Senju DNA, which would explain why he could control the 9-Tails. As for his height, Kakashi and Might Guy were shown being quite tall during that flashback. What makes it obvious he's Obito is the fact that he knew Minato, and how to infiltrate the Leaf, as well as how to force Minato to use his Flying Thunder God technique. Madara's brother would have no idea about Minato's powers. It's Obito. It's obvious. It always was. Don't forget him regenerating his arm in Zetsu cells right after the Danzo thing. A lot of people have been griping about the age thing with Minato; I guess it makes sense that he just had a growth spurt like Kakashi. The real question is how he got so strong in that timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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