Strider Tigerwolf Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 *reads current last chapter* Kishi... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaoySOGlZ_U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [spoiler ITS SO OBVIOUS]Tobi is.... IT STILL HOLDS UP!!! I'm actually thinking its Rin who is behind everything. Or was it just me who thought she had dead eyes in the flashback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 IT STILL HOLDS UP!!! I'm actually thinking its Rin who is behind everything. Or was it just me who thought she had dead eyes in the flashback?I kinda thought that at first. LolI thought that theory would get flamed though. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 After reading the chapter I gave up on all theories and conspiracies. Now I just want to know what da fuq is kishi thinking and how the's going to explain this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 It's not Obito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 One of the several things that really bugs me about Tobi (this ignors him being Obito) is how he could have Obito's eye. His left sie was crushed by a rock. The eye should have been destroyed, crushed beyond repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 They've flat out said that he's Obito and you guys can't believe! XD "No! It can't be!" or "My God, there must be more to it! I can't have been wrong!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 They've flat out said that he's Obito and you guys can't believe! XD "No! It can't be!" or "My God, there must be more to it! I can't have been wrong!"It has nothing to do with being wrong. It has to do with the fact that it's:A. A HORRIBLE writing choice.B. Full of plot holes, such as his age.Potential C. Involves stealing another character's gimmick for no reason. If he's just Obito, then this Manga becomes complete trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 It has nothing to do with being wrong. It has to do with the fact that it's:A. A HORRIBLE writing choice.B. Full of plot holes, such as his age.Potential C. Involves stealing another character's gimmick for no reason. If he's just Obito, then this Manga becomes complete trash.You don't have to resort to name-calling, dick. The fact is, all you know right now is that it's Obito. Whether you think it's bad writing or not, you can't change that and that's all you know for a fact. It may just be Obito's body, but it's still Obito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 It may just be Obito's body. Something tells me..."Regeneration Techniques" like Hashirama and Tsunade is going to be a piece of that evidence...and if that IS true, then technically Obito's eye could have been regenerated. but I'll wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Obito is actually a regeneration of the Doctor. It explains everything. Try and prove it wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 It has nothing to do with being wrong. It has to do with the fact that it's:A. A HORRIBLE writing choice.B. Full of plot holes, such as his age.Potential C. Involves stealing another character's gimmick for no reason. If he's just Obito, then this Manga becomes complete trash.Don't think the age thing is that big a deal. Side from him controlling the Mizukage at some time and his knowledge of the past, he always seemed to be about Kakashi's age. The bigger problem is stuff like character motivation, super power jump between his death and his fight with the 4th, and how he came back from the dead. I'm sure something big will happen for chapter 600 to further the fight and make some of that less stupid. You don't have to resort to name-calling, dick. The fact is, all you know right now is that it's Obito. Whether you think it's bad writing or not, you can't change that and that's all you know for a fact. It may just be Obito's body, but it's still Obito.Um....what name calling? Am I just that blind? Anyway, if its just his body it isn't really Obito. Just a puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 He trolls with the best of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Um....what name calling? Am I just that blind?Aw, c'mon! What the f*ck?! I could have sworn that he said "idiot". Am I really the only one who saw that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW (For The Wynn) Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Aw, c'mon! What the f*ck?! I could have sworn that he said "idiot". Am I really the only one who saw that?You're getting more and more paranoid, Kakashi. I guess finding out you are fighting your dead best friend really took a toll on you. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 They've flat out said that he's Obito and you guys can't believe! XD "No! It can't be!" or "My God, there must be more to it! I can't have been wrong!" Because of course Tobi being revealed as Madara had nothing more to it. It has nothing to do with being wrong.It has to do with the fact that it's:A. A HORRIBLE writing choice.B. Full of plot holes, such as his age.Potential C. Involves stealing another character's gimmick for no reason.If he's just Obito, then this Manga becomes complete trash. A. How is it a horrible writing choice beyond being proving the biggest piece of speculation since the character's introduction?B. Doesn't mean those can't be filled in.C. Agreed, I don't want him to be like Orochimaru. If Kishi does make it so that he's controlling Obito, at least make it unique in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Because of course Tobi being revealed as Madara had nothing more to it.Tobi wasn't revealed to be Madara, he only claimed to be, which was obviously a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTW (For The Wynn) Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 It is entirely possible that Obito has Madara's DNA embedded into him now. Like what Danzo, Orochimaru and Kabuto have done with Hashirama Senju's DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Tobi wasn't revealed to be Madara, he only claimed to be, which was obviously a lie. Exactly my point. We didn't know Tobi was lying, so there could be more to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakashi Hatake Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Exactly my point. We didn't know Tobi was lying, so there could be more to this.So, Tobi could be lying about being Obito even though it literally showed that he is? xD No, but seriously, I'm joking. I know it might not be more than just Obito's body but it'd be best if it was fully Obito imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 One of the several things that really bugs me about Tobi (this ignors him being Obito) is how he could have Obito's eye. His left sie was crushed by a rock. The eye should have been destroyed, crushed beyond repair. I say Senju/Zetsu cells helped regenerate the eye.I'm sure we'll get a good explanation.It has nothing to do with being wrong.It has to do with the fact that it's:A. A HORRIBLE writing choice.B. Full of plot holes, such as his age.Potential C. Involves stealing another character's gimmick for no reason.If he's just Obito, then this Manga becomes complete trash. A. I don't think it is; it could be called a cliche good guy gone bad thing, but that's not necessarily a bad writing choice. If Obito's downfall seems forced in Kishi's explanation, then...whatevs.B. Like I said, they aren't really holes unless they're left unfilled. I am positive Kishi's planned out on covering every angle.C. I'll give you that. I completely disagree that this manga would be trash just because it seems like his identity choice contradicts everything we know.The point of a twist (granted lots don't see this as a twist, but) is to upend what we thought we knew with the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Eh, I think people are just mad cause it's not anything like their overcomplicated theories. Obito makes sense, being crushed by a rock would not necessarily destroy your eye beyond repair, I think we may have misinterpreted Kakashi becoming a Chunin at 12, and even if we did, it's honestly more believable than him becoming a Chunin at 6. Anyway, stop looking for excuses to complain. Everything pointed to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalFear Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hey what up guy's, I read the latest chapter and had to see what everyone on here was saying about it. In my honest opinion im confused, yet somethis make sense. Their is one thing I'd like to point out that everyone seems to be forgetting. Tobi can use the time space jutsu to send part of his body or all of it to a different demension. So in theory if Tobi is really Obito with nothing else added it makes sense that when Obito had the rock crush him that he could have just used the time space jutsu to transport his left side to the other demension. The thing that confuses me the most is the knowledge of the past and how he fought with minato. But then again we dont know much about this demension and its effects. For all we know time could be greatly shortened inside the demension allowing it so Obito could be tobi through out it all. Just thought Id throw that out their and see if anyone agreed or had any alternate thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hey what up guy's, I read the latest chapter and had to see what everyone on here was saying about it. In my honest opinion im confused, yet somethis make sense. Their is one thing I'd like to point out that everyone seems to be forgetting. Tobi can use the time space jutsu to send part of his body or all of it to a different demension. So in theory if Tobi is really Obito with nothing else added it makes sense that when Obito had the rock crush him that he could have just used the time space jutsu to transport his left side to the other demension. The thing that confuses me the most is the knowledge of the past and how he fought with minato. But then again we dont know much about this demension and its effects. For all we know time could be greatly shortened inside the demension allowing it so Obito could be tobi through out it all. Just thought Id throw that out their and see if anyone agreed or had any alternate thoughts. Dude, that's genius. Maybe at that moment he learned the jutsu, but who knows. Anywayz, let's just wait for Kishi to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Hey what up guy's, I read the latest chapter and had to see what everyone on here was saying about it. In my honest opinion im confused, yet somethis make sense. Their is one thing I'd like to point out that everyone seems to be forgetting. Tobi can use the time space jutsu to send part of his body or all of it to a different demension. So in theory if Tobi is really Obito with nothing else added it makes sense that when Obito had the rock crush him that he could have just used the time space jutsu to transport his left side to the other demension. The thing that confuses me the most is the knowledge of the past and how he fought with minato. But then again we dont know much about this demension and its effects. For all we know time could be greatly shortened inside the demension allowing it so Obito could be tobi through out it all. Just thought Id throw that out their and see if anyone agreed or had any alternate thoughts. The problem with your idea is Obito would be acting to deceive his teammates at that moment.I'd really hate to think he was evil back then.The other thing is Tobi's power is revealed to be a Mangekyo power. I highly doubt Obito unlocked MS like 5 minutes after unlocking regular Sharingan and managed to do something complicated like warping half his body away in an instant. Tenta makes another good point, I feel like most people I've seen on the internet were looking for something more complicated, but I think a lot of us older folk (including me) forget sometimes that Naruto is a Shonen manga. It's not really supposed to get too complicated because its target audience are prepubescent kids who are probably flipping their sh*t right now that Tobi turned out to be Obito, Kakashi's old teammate they had thought long dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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