Fusion X. Denver Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 White Zetsu theory? You mean with him being the original Zetsu?But they've been seen together .__. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 You know the White Zetsu's power can basically change into Just about anyone. That, is what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 They've still been seen together :/Plus, it's not like the copying ability grants him super strength either. The only reason these Zetsu impersonators have been so effective is because they caught the shinobis off-guard. Once they were found out, a lot of them went down with one blow.And remember, Tobi's said that Zetsu's specialty isn't combat strength. The more I think about it, I think Tobi's the sage.It explains why he knows so much about stuff people don't know.It fits in with him originally possessing the Rinnegan, giving it to Nagato, then taking back what was his.It fits in with him claiming he's not as powerful as he used to be.It explains his proficiency with sealing.The only mismatch is his story about the Juubi, with him becoming the Jinchuriki then splitting it into the Bijuu. However, he's known to have bent the truth before. Maybe instead of passing on his essence to his sons, the sons took the power of his eyes and body in order to stop his mad plan of taking over the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I took a more... Fire Emblem approach to it. It's possible that his sons stopped him, but... IT's also possible he just lost faith in everyone, because this is the 4th GREAT war. There were other wars, too. He might have lost his hope for them, and decided to just kill them all. Wouldn't be the first time that was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 That could be true, but why would he go through the Moon's Eye Plan if he originally intended to kill them all?Unless...THE PLAN IS A BIG FAT LIE.Or he'll kill them all while they're under the influence.I am now convinced he's the sage, though we need a little more info on his past in order to refute or support any current claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted October 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 The chapter just blew my mind. I had accepted the whole "Madara in the coffin" theory, but didn't know how to react if it was true. If this does end up being Izuna (Who I want it to be), then I will accept this revelation as being better than the one with Z-one. Tobi has not disappointed me as a villain, so I hope that there's a good explanation for why he's been running around and claiming to be Madara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I think it might be the sage. The reason being that they'll have to show the sage at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I think it might be the sage. The reason being that they'll have to show the sage at some point.That's where I started and then it developed xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I highly doubt that it's the Sage. I want it to be an Uchiha, because having Tobi be an Uchiha would be consistent with the theme of the immortal conflict of the two brothers. Then again, if it was the Sage, then it would also be consistent with the theme of the new surpassing the old, but I would rather have it be an Uchiha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 It's either the sage or Madara's bro. There's really no one else it could be, unless Kishi pulls out some random character from nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 It could be Obito...possibly.I'll acknowledge Izuna and the Sage are way more likely, but it's not impossible that it's Obito.I kinda want it to be the Sage because seeing Naruto (and maybe Sasuke and/or Team 7) fighting the Sage would be epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 It could be Obito...possibly.I'll acknowledge Izuna and the Sage are way more likely, but it's not impossible that it's Obito.I kinda want it to be the Sage because seeing Naruto (and maybe Sasuke and/or Team 7) fighting the Sage would be epic.Izuna would be more fitting though, if you think about it. Sage would work well in this, but put more of an idea on Izuna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 There are theories that Tobi is a clone of Madara. I like that theory just as much as the Tobizuna theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Now seeing that Tobi can't be Madara, which by the way blew my mind, I'm reverting to my theory that Tobi is Obito. Tobi HAS to be an Uchiha so anything outside of that is pure bs. Also, since Tobi isn't Madara, any and all speculation can be plausible, so let me say this:TOBI IS A MIX OF SEVERAL SHINOBI :D Where is Madara's EMS? Has he just not activated it yet? Madara vs ?? We saw a few scenes from the 7 Swordsman fight!!! Yay!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Some of the Seven Swordsmen were defeated off-screen. Hopefully that gets expanded upon on in the anime. Is anyone else getting Z-one vibes with this Madara revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Some of the Seven Swordsmen were defeated off-screen. Hopefully that gets expanded upon on in the anime. Is anyone else getting Z-one vibes with this Madara revelation.Now that you mention it, I am. 'Cept, Z-ONE admitted, when confronted "Yeah, I'm not Yusei." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I'll need to see if other people are making the connection to Z-one. I just hope there's a better explanation for why Tobi has been saying that he's Madara, because Z-one's explanation wasn't particularly good, but this is not the thread to discuss Z-one's motivations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Think it was quite obvious that tobi wasn't Madara, but they did a good job of convincing me otherwise. so the coffin was Madara, good looks like the Manga is starting to get more interesting, alot of the lattest chapters have been a real bore for me so it's good to see some huge developments like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Think it was quite obvious that tobi wasn't Madara, but they did a good job of convincing me otherwise. so the coffin was Madara, good looks like the Manga is starting to get more interesting, alot of the lattest chapters have been a real bore for me so it's good to see some huge developments like this.Gaara vs. The Amazingly hilarious and badass 2nd Mizukage was boring? WAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Honestly, I was so surprised to see that Madara was resurrected that it never even occurred to me that it was like a Z-One moment. Ugh not knowing Tobi's true identity is really bugging me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 There are theories that Tobi is a clone of Madara. I like that theory just as much as the Tobizuna theory. Meh.With the Narutoverse having clones of ninjas in every other chapter kinda makes me hope that's NOT the case. Actually, come to think of it, who DOES get to fight Madara?Can't be Naruto, the one with Gaara is a clone.Gaara? But he's wiped.Tsuchikage? Probably, in which case, the old geezer's gonna die.Or all of them will team and lose.I wonder who'll defeat him then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Gaara vs. The Amazingly hilarious and badass 2nd Mizukage was boring? WAT. That was a great fight, but it dragged on for a bit too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted October 13, 2011 Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 I was still hoping to see Mizukage vs Black Zetsu, but now I'm not so sure :TI suppose Kakashi's team vs The Seven Four Swordsman are out of the question too.Meh, I guess I'm alright for some boss fights now. Let's see something drastic happen.Or rather, keep drastic stuff coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted October 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2011 Tobi is a troll simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I KNEW IT! I MOTHAFRIKING KNEW IT!!!!!!! THE COFFIN WAS MADARA'S ORIGINAL BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now there are four theories:1. Tobi is a clone of Madara.2. Tobi is Izuna.3. Tobi is Obito4. Tobi is a random character But anyway, what bothers me is that Real Madara knew about Nagato. . . . . so what's up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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