Legend Zero Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 I rofled. Earth, Wind and Fire. Is this his power? [spoiler=?] It would make for an epic summon, amirite?Him + Zabuza + Sakura = [spoiler=??] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 I'm just wondering, Madara said he gave nagato the Rinnegun right? So how'd Madara get it? I mean his not part of the Senju his an Uchiha? I didn't even think you could transfer that kind of power? Or am I just missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Hasn't been explained yet.All we can do is theorize, but nothing seems certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 i hope something's revealed about Madar soon though there is so many possibilities, why he still has the mask I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted February 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Rinnegan isn't a Senju trait, it's just the power of the Sage of the Six Paths, and Madara is most likely a descendant from him, just like Nagato. Considering how Madara has so many Sharingans, it's not that hard to believe that he stole the eye from someone that had it. Alternatively, the elder son of the Sage stole the Rinnegan, and passed it down to preserve its power until it came to Madara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 wow thats complicated, so the sage of the six paths, what is he? just the founder of those traits eg: sharingun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Sage_of_Six_Paths The Sage had the Rinnegan. He created the moon, the 9 bijuu, and ninjutsu. The Sage entrused his "eyes" to the elder son his "body" to his younger son. The Uchiha and the Senju respectively. He named his younger son his successor. Older brother was mad so he attacked his younger brother, thus starting the conflict between the Uchiha and the Senju. PERSONAL SIDE NOTE: I have decided that my next favorite character who I would like to see fight will be Roshi and the 4 Tailed Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Am I the only one who is still skeptical that Tobi is really Madara? It would be just like Kishi to throw a curveball like that. Maybe it's the Sage of Six Path's son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm skeptical, but he's NOT Obito. I think the body Kabuto resurrected might have been Madara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm skeptical, but he's NOT Obito. I think the body Kabuto resurrected might have been Madara.Of course he's not Obito, Obito got smashed. I think you're right about that second comment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Tobi not being Madara and Madara being the 6th coffin DOES fit.It could work.Although, Kishi is kinda throwing the possibility in our face, isn't he? What if all this skepticism were just toying with us to distract the real hints at what's in the 6th coffin?I'm inclined to believe Tobi is Tobi and not Madara, although the way Kishi has created this controversy makes me think its ultimate purpose is to have us trail a red herring so he can surprise us with who was really in the 6th coffin.If not Madara, I say it's the Rikudo Sage, the one Tobi always praises and explains to people. Plus, the Rikudo Sage had godly powers that could match his, so Kabuto resurrecting him and using him against Tobi would be a huge disadvantage.Any bad guy would sh*t his pants if he had to face the God of shinobi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalFear Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I have to agree with your first half Fusion, but I will contradict you on you very last sentance! "Any bad guy would sh*t his pants if he had to face the God of shinobi." As this would be true in the aspect of it being Rikudo Sennin, but Orochimaru did fight the "God of Shinobi" and lived with his soul intact!!! LOL I know what you ment but people still forget that Hiruzen Sarutobi was also known as the God of Shinobi". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Enma needs to come back :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted February 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 But Kabuto has explained that he needs to DNA of the person he intends to revive, and we would need an explanation of that if the coffin really does contain the Rikudo Sage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 If that's the case, he'll probably just pull some random DNA out of his ass or something or be like derp, I jus fuzed Uchiha and Senju DNA and maked Rikudo Sage DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 But remember Madara/Tobi's words?"WHERE did you get that?"If it's the Rikudo Sage, it's possible Madara discovered his remains during his prime and sealed it away, until Kabuto found them.That could also be where he got the Rinnegan, something only the Rikudo Sage had until Nagato had them....I have just thought of a theory I am now convinced is the most plausible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 What confuses me about your theory is 1) how could have Madara found Rikudo's remains if Rikudo Sage lived WAY before Madara's time? 2) The Rinnegan would have decomposed and/or vanished by the time Madara, out of all people, would have found it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 1. Perhaps the youngest son sealed his father's body away? It's possible since he wouldn't want anyone stealing his Kekkei Genkai and techniques. If not, perhaps the elder son's remains were found (he did inherit the eyes after all). If you think about it, how would Kabuto find the DNA of the SECOND Tsuchikage and Mizukage? They lived before Madara's time, yet Kabuto found their remains.Madara could also have found one of the early descendants of the elder son before it mutated into the Sharingan or whatnot and used their eyes.2. If Madara found at least some of his remains, like a withered corpse, it would leave the secrets one would need to gain the Rinnegan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 1) If Orochimaru was able to find the First and Second Hokage's DNA, Kabuto should be able to scrap around and find the Second Tsuchikage and Mizukage's DNA. I'm not sure that the Second Tsuchikage and Mizukage lived before Madara's time, Madara is pretty old... 2) Madara got his Rinnegan by stealing it from Nagato's dead body. Madara never had the Rinnegan until just recently I'm getting confused in what you are saying. Are you saying that Madara found Rikudo Sage's remains, stored it away and preserved it until Kabuto found it. In the meantime, he learned how to get the Rinnegan/took the Rinnegan from the remains. Now, Kabuto found the remains that Madara stored and he used Edo Tensei to bring Rikudo Sage back and show it off to Marara? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted February 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 I think that Madara was around the time of the Second Tsuchikage and Mizukage, if not before them, since he was fighting for the position of First Hokage. I stand by my theory that the elder son stole the Rinnegan and trusted them to every next generation. It makes sense that the Rinnegan Madara has is the same Rinnegan the Sage of the Six Paths had, and it has been preserved all these years. What I want to know is why Madara would trust a little kid like Nagato with the Rinnegan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Roxas' theory sounds very logical as long as the Rinnegan (being the ultimate dojutsu) hasn't deteriorated whatsoever. Maybe Madara noticed how strong Nagato could potentially be? That and also he was able to manipulate Nagato and use him as a puppet fairly easily. So why go through the trouble of stealing the Rinnegan when you can just control Nagato from the beginning? I'm sure if Madara got on Nagato's bad side while trying to steal the Rinnegan, the Rinnegan would activate and blow Madara's socks off and force him to use Izanagi or something earlier than he would have liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah, the passing down of eyes makes sense. It's definitely possible that Madara took possession of the eyes by stealing them from one of the descendants and for some reason entrusted them to Nagato.How long ago did the Rikudo Sage exist before Madara and the 1st Hokage did? Depending on the time gap, it's possible the remains didn't deteriorate and that Kabuto found them. Another thing that's possible is that Orochimaru had something to do with finding them and hiding them from Madara, and that's how Kabuto had access. Madara keeps discovering Orochimaru knew a lot about his plans, so he could have done it again with the remains of the Rikudo Sage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 But Roxas, what if Tobi is the elder son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 But Roxas, what if Tobi is the elder son? There's a thought.Tobi was stated to be an immortal by Itachi, so that could work.Not too sure it's the actual truth, but definitely possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Posted February 2, 2011 Report Share Posted February 2, 2011 Yeah, the passing down of eyes makes sense. It's definitely possible that Madara took possession of the eyes by stealing them from one of the descendants and for some reason entrusted them to Nagato. Nagato was born with the Rinnegan, they weren't transplants and they werent entrusted to him by Madara. Madara never stole the Rinnegan until Nagato was dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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