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@Monkey: I don't know if Kakashi become Naruto's Vice Hokage/Advisor is a good idea. Given the fact that Naruto doesn't always listen to Kakashi suggestion (ex: Sasuke case), appointing a brilliant advisor but neglected or ignore his suggestion is waste of talent imo. Kakashi is more suited become a shadow leader like Danzo, so that in case Naruto screw up in making the decision, Kakashi can fix it from behind the curtain.

 

And i really don't like "No Sasuke. You and I will die TOGETHER."-attitude from Naruto. Why can't he just defeat Sasuke & Madara (together with other shinobi) and still LIVES to become the future Hokage? Naruto have Massive Chakra, Sage Mode, FTG Mode, almost total control of Kyuubi Chakra, AND Sage of the 6 Path Mode (perhaps. Only speculation though). Killing both Sasuke & Madara is easy for Naruto given the fact that Madara almost obliterated by Minato's FTG techniques. Why is today Naruto is more and more becoming a pessimistic type person? I remember a pre-Shippuden Naruto attitude, i saw that flame of passion and greatness from his eyes, that optimistic voice while he saying, "I will become the future Hokage!" Now, where were those optimistic feeling go? Was it swallow up by Sasuke emo-drama chapters? No idea. Only Kishimoto know.

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GOD DAMMIT! Kisame dies! :( And in the shittiest way... bitting off his own tongue... well then again, he did get pounded by Gai.

 

@Monkey: I don't know if Kakashi become Naruto's Vice Hokage/Advisor is a good idea. Given the fact that Naruto doesn't always listen to Kakashi suggestion (ex: Sasuke case), appointing a brilliant advisor but neglected or ignore his suggestion is waste of talent imo. Kakashi is more suited become a shadow leader like Danzo, so that in case Naruto screw up in making the decision, Kakashi can fix it from behind the curtain.

 

By shadow leader, do you mean Hokage? Because kage literally means 'shadow'. Or do you mean like Naruto as the fake Hokage while Kakashi sits behind and pulls the strings?

 

And i really don't like "No Sasuke. You and I will die TOGETHER."-attitude from Naruto. Why can't he just defeat Sasuke & Madara (together with other shinobi) and still LIVES to become the future Hokage? Naruto have Massive Chakra, Sage Mode, FTG Mode, almost total control of Kyuubi Chakra, AND Sage of the 6 Path Mode (perhaps. Only speculation though). Killing both Sasuke & Madara is easy for Naruto given the fact that Madara almost obliterated by Minato's FTG techniques. Why is today Naruto is more and more becoming a pessimistic type person? I remember a pre-Shippuden Naruto attitude, i saw that flame of passion and greatness from his eyes, that optimistic voice while he saying, "I will become the future Hokage!" Now, where were those optimistic feeling go? Was it swallow up by Sasuke emo-drama chapters? No idea. Only Kishimoto know.

 

Well you not liking that quote is your own issue. It's a little hard for Naruto to take on Sasuke and Madara, even with other shinobi. Sasuke has his an Eternal Mangekyo now (plus whatever else he mastered) and Madara has his space/time manipulation abilities (plus other unknown techniques). It isn't as easy to take out a shinobi of their status so easily. Regardless of what Naruto is capable of. Madara can easily just transport Naruto to another dimension instanly. They are two of the strongest shinobi currently in the series. You make them being killed sound so easy when really, it's a lot harder. Who are the other shinobi you had in mind who would help Naruto? Bee? the other Kages? Sure, they'll help big time, but Madara and Sasuke can easily separate them and take them out individually. Naruto being pessimistic is him maturing and him realizing what the hell is going on in this world. Pre-shippuden, Naruto didn't have to worry about the Akatsuki going after him or any other big time pressure. He just had to practice and what not. Now, Naruto is in more trouble than he was before. He's a bigger target than he was before, granted that he was a target before. Plus, Orochimaru isn't really much compared to Sasuke and Madara. Kabuto on the other hand, is a big threat as well. He makes Madara's army that much stronger, with the 7 bijuu and all the resurrected Akatsuki members and whoever else he revived.

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By shadow leader, do you mean Hokage? Because kage literally means 'shadow'. Or do you mean like Naruto as the fake Hokage while Kakashi sits behind and pulls the strings?

 

That not what i mean lol! I mean like Roots organization that protect Konoha through behind-the-curtain method. Naruto is still treated as Hokage but when there are hard or inhumane decision appear to the surface (ex: like in Itachi case), Kakashi will handle it because Naruto is still young and his heart is not ready for making a painful decisions. Of course Kakashi should reform the Roots organization so that there are no more brainwashing method to its member (like Sai).

 

For Naruto battle against Sasuke & Madara, don't forget that Kabuto primary reason joining the Akatsuki is to KILL Sasuke. Who knows maybe in the heat of battle, Kabuto betray Madara and goes for Sasuke's head. This unexpected act CAN turn the tide of battle and it is easy for Naruto and his friends to bag Sasuke or Madara if this opportunity arise.

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That not what i mean lol! I mean like Roots organization that protect Konoha through behind-the-curtain method. Naruto is still treated as Hokage but when there are hard or inhumane decision appear to the surface (ex: like in Itachi case), Kakashi will handle it because Naruto is still young and his heart is not ready for making a painful decisions. Of course Kakashi should reform the Roots organization so that there are no more brainwashing method to its member (like Sai).

Which is similar to what I'm saying. Naruti is technically Hokage but Kakashi helps him, whether it be as Vice Hokage or as how you view it.

 

For Naruto battle against Sasuke & Madara, don't forget that Kabuto primary reason joining the Akatsuki is to KILL Sasuke. Who knows maybe in the heat of battle, Kabuto betray Madara and goes for Sasuke's head. This unexpected act CAN turn the tide of battle and it is easy for Naruto and his friends to bag Sasuke or Madara if this opportunity arise.

I'm sure Kabuto is smart enough to not jeopardize the chance of him and Madara winning the war by going after one of Madara's strongest weapons. They wouldn't bag Sasuke, they'd kill him too.

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Who was that lady who had the Samehada before Kisame? His mom? She looked like his mom.

 

So Kisame was one of the Seven Swordsman before he had the Samehada?

 

Technically, Kisame isn't dead yet... But I'm sure he's going to just get obliterated at the beginning of the next chapter.

 

Kisame survives yet another chapter! But even if he dies, Kabuto will just revive him, right?

 

What will happen to poor ol' Samehada?

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One question about Manga. Do you think dat Naruto will kill Sasuke or somehow change his mind and he will be a ninja again in Leaf? But i know his now Missing - nin.

 

I think he'll just stay a Rouge Ninja. I don't think he'll ever go back to Konoha after he found out what they did to Itachi. They made him slaughter his whole Clan!

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Kisame bit off his own tongue to force himself conscience; BAD ASS.

 

I don't think he's done in the least. Until he uses his full power, Gai won't recognise him.

 

 

Madara? Would he need the Samehada? I don't think he would use it

 

I think he means Suigetsu

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he...has a point we all know that Naruto is gunna be hokage unless he dies in the fight with Sasuke, and when that happens they will probably say he was a hokage anyway. On a side note, a large number of ninja know who Kakashi is. I think- i know he's a world-class ninja. He just needs chakra training

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At lease we know some of Kisame past and now we know that the 7th Gate will smell after being use.

 

Then the 8th Gate will surely surpass the 7th Gate in term of power or smell. :rolleyes:

Maybe that is the reason Kakashi said that opening the Chakra Gate is forbidden... because it smell terrible.

 

On a side note, a large number of ninja know who Kakashi is. I think- i know he's a world-class ninja. He just needs chakra training

 

Kakashi cannot increased his Chakra capacity anymore because he is already too old for training. The only method to increase the Chakra capacity for Kakashi is to use inhumane experiment to his body (like Orochimaru or Danzo), and Kakashi will surely reject that idea.

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