Console War

[Dark]

Sales = Quality

 

I don't think millions of people would waste $250 plus the cost of games and buy a crappy console. The high sales show that the majority of people (twice as many as the PS3) would go out and buy a Wii compared to XBOX 360 or PS3. And if you think it's just the price, you are wrong. I'm pretty sure one of the two consoles (360 or PS3) costs $200 now.

[Flame Dragon]

 

Graphics: The Wii's graphics are last gen. That's putting it mildly. For the most part' date=' the graphics are terrible. I know there's the "Oh, graphics don't matter at all!" argument, but that is [i']false[/i]. You shouldn't buy something just because of the graphics, it's true. But they do matter. Alot. Rarely will I buy a game that has terrible graphics, simply because I can't stand watching it. Look at the first word in the name of the medium itself: "Video". Wouldn't that be some indication as to an important aspect? Basically, good graphics are not a major influencing factor in "Do I want to buy this?", but terrible graphics are definitely one.

You make it sound like the Wii's graphics are eyes bleed bad. Sure they are crap if you look at even the 360, but they still are about the same as last gen. IMO last gen looked nice and so the Wii's graphics are "sub-par", not terrible.

 

I enjoyed the last gen's graphics too.

 

From what I've played, most of my PS2 games have better graphics (does playing them on a PS3 affect the graphics?) than the majority of games on the Wii.

 

I did not make them out to be eye-bleed bad. I said terrible, which is at least one step above XD

 

Everything past the 3rd sentence of that paragraph wasn't even talking about the Wii >_>

No idea if playing on the PS3 makes a difference, but I don't think it would. And yes most PS2 game's graphics are at least the same as the Wii's. But remember that only high end GC games look like most the Wii's games.

 

Also only that people are starting to see that you can't go uber realistic with the look and are starting to take another path on the games looks. It's really hard to say since even I don't fully get it, but I've never gave a damn about graphics, hell I like the way the N63 look. Still the games they showed at E3 looked great. Also if you really want to see what I'm talking about look at Red Steel 2.

 

 

Also saying Melee>Brawl is a matter of opinion.I find Brawl to be the better of the two, but this is WAY off topic. Also most people I know have had the 360 fail. The 360's hardware is really problematic.

[TAG]

And you can't lable a console automatically horrible because of it's graphics. I didn't >_> Take really old consoles' date=' the N64 in particular. The graphics (I should know, I have one) are drop-dead disgusting. Still, the N64 was one of the best consoles in the world. Why? Because graphics don't affect the overall rating of a console a lot. [i'] The graphics were not considered bad, because those were the best they had at the time. If you've played games with nothing but sprite graphics, then move up to 3D, it looks really good. If you've been playing current gen games and then play a last gen game, it looks worse to you than if you had played the last gen game first. [/i]

No real complaints there

 

The Wii is the only out of the three consoles that doesn't use a standard hand-held controller.

Standard hand-held controllers are perfect. Deeper control schemes don't work very well with the remote/nunchuck pair. It ends up making nearly every game feel gimmicky and awkward to play. Brawl even controls badly with it. The creators even admit that a GC controller is much better for that game, which is why they included the option.

The reason it "controls badly" is because nearly all of the people who fell in love with Melee are used to a GC controller, so they aren't used to the other schemes.

 

The Wii is the only out of the three to have the best sales for new-gen consoles.

Sales don't mean anything. The majority of people in the world are idiots, people that would never play a real game purchase the wii, and it's mainly utilized as a gimmicky toy by the majority of buyers.

TBQH, that doesn't make too much sense. People who would never play "a real game" probably just wouldn't buy a console. Besides, to them, the Wii games ARE real games.

 

 

The Wii is the only out of the three (I think) to have free WiFi accessibility for many of it's games.

PS3 has free online too and the 360's online is reasonably priced. The friend code system is more of a hassle than the other console's matchmaking systems. The PS3 can surf the internet, and you can rent movies with the 360. The Wii can.........check the weather. Ahh yes, the environmental conditions outside my house are crucial elements in regards to my indoor gaming experience.

You can surf the net with the Wii as well. Just not as well as a PS3, I would imagine.

 

Wii has SSBB, WiiFit, WiiSports, SMG, and a bunch of highly rated games.

Melee was better, who is going to use wiifit to actually stay in shape?, bowling is the only fun part of wii sports and it can even grow tedious, and mario platformers got stale during the early gamecube era. That leaves us with Fire Emblem and Metroid Prime as the only good exlcusives I can think of off the top of my head. If anyone is even considering bringing up Wii Play's sales in defense of the wii, (pardon my abbreviation) you can gtfo. Everyone knows that the only reason it sells is because of the free remote.

Brawl was better in many, many people's eyes; I'm sure a number of people will use Wii Fit to stay in shape (the better question is, WILL it actually keep them in shape?); I don't see how they've gotten stale if there's been only one per console and SMG2 is the first Mario platformer that's a sequel to a Mario platformer on the same console since SMB2 & 3; it has quite a bit more exclusives than that (Punch Out!!, Madworld, No More Heroes, Tatsunoko vs Capcom come to mind); Wii Play comes with a free remote?

 

Wii has less than a 1% error console rate (according to Wiki).

My consoles haven't had problems at all. And answer me this: would you rather have a state of the art computer that freezes about once a month, or a 10 year old model that runs flawlessly?

Based on what I've heard about 360 problems specifically, "once a month" isn't exactly the best comparison.

 

At the E3, Wii said they were coming out with WiiFit +, WiiMotion, SMBWii and SMG2. The originals were big sellers.

Once again, sales doesn't reflect the quality.

True, but that doesn't matter if the quality is good, which it is.

 

At $250, the console and game together is considered cheap.

Good price does not equal good product.

Again, true. But that doesn't exactly bolster the arguments of the opponents of the Wii.

 

And then the graphics suck.

 

...positives outweigh negatives. :O

[Dark]

Again, 5% is a lot. Let's assume (cuz I don't want to go back to Page 3 and look) 20 million XBOX 360 consoles were sold.

 

That means, around 1 million of those consoles had some kind of error.

 

Also, I feel pay-to-play WiFi is dumb. You pay for the console and the game, why should you pay for the WiFi?

 

Wii has WiiWeather, WiiNews, and let's not forget you can buy AN INTERNET CHANNEL for 500 WiiPoints.

 

EDIT: Yeah, WiiPlay comes with a free WiiMote.

[Azmodius]

Sales do not = quality! Get this into your tiny heads! Sales = peoples stupidity.

[TAG]

Sales do not = quality! Get this into your tiny heads! Sales = peoples stupidity.

 

>_>

 

Ok......

[Flame Dragon]

Sales do not = quality! Get this into your tiny heads! Sales = peoples stupidity.

Where are you getting "heads" from. Really the only person the seems to think this is Dark so get it out of your head that head needs an "s"

[Dark]

Sales do not = quality! Get this into your tiny heads! Sales = peoples stupidity.

 

I'm the only one saying this, don't pluralize things unless more than one people believe it.

 

So you are telling me the more sales a console... no. You are telling me the more sales ANYTHING has, the worse it is? I like opposite world. I'm now a girl whose favorite color is white and I hate playing videogames, hate chocolate and hate Taco Bell.

[Hydra of Ages]

Lessi... my opinion? From best to last (in my opinion at least)

 

1. Wii

Why: Brawl, Zelda, Mario, Okami, Fire Emblem, plus DS synergy, 'nuff said. Wii Shop contains in my opinion, the best selection of old awesome games I've ever seen. Also, cheap.

On the con side, it gets a lot of shovelware and if often labeled kiddy due to that shovelware. Battery life in the remotes is also annoying.

 

2. XBox

Why: Elder Scrolls: Oblivion mainly, along with a massive list of decent games that end up on my list of 'Games I'd like to try, but don't necessarily need'. Also fairly cheap, much less fragile than some would lead you to believe. Online play is alright. Also has Halo, for those who like that sort of thing.

 

3. Playstation 3

Why: Incredibly overpriced, very shallow selection of games. However, on the plus side, acts as a Blue Ray player (and is actually more inexpensive than they are). Don't know much more about it, as I don't have one, and neither does my usually very game-savvy friend.

[TAG]

Lessi... my opinion? From best to last (in my opinion at least)

 

1. Wii

Why: Brawl' date=' Zelda, Mario, Okami, Fire Emblem, plus DS synergy, 'nuff said. Wii Shop contains in my opinion, the best selection of old awesome games I've ever seen. Also, cheap.

On the con side, it gets a lot of shovelware and if often labeled kiddy due to that shovelware. Battery life in the remotes is also annoying.

 

2. XBox

Why: Elder Scrolls: Oblivion mainly, along with a massive list of decent games that end up on my list of 'Games I'd like to try, but don't necessarily need'. Also fairly cheap, much less fragile than some would lead you to believe. Online play is alright. Also has Halo, for those who like that sort of thing.

 

3. Playstation 3

Why: Incredibly overpriced, very shallow selection of games. However, on the plus side, acts as a Blue Ray player (and is actually more inexpensive than they are). Don't know much more about it, as I don't have one, and neither does my usually very game-savvy friend.

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Okami's for the PS2 also, and Elder Scrolls is for PS3 as well.

[Hydra of Ages]

PS2 doesn't count, as this is talking third gen consoles. (Though, fair enough, PS3's backwards compatible I believe).

 

Never knew Elder Scrolls was for PS3 though.

[evilhorus]

PS2 doesn't count' date=' as this is talking third gen consoles.

 

[b']I thought the PS3, the 360 and Wii were 7th Gen?[/b]

 

(Though, fair enough, PS3's backwards compatible I believe).

 

Not in the UK for some gay reason.

 

Never knew Elder Scrolls was for PS3 though.

 

Me, either.

[TAG]

PS2 doesn't count' date=' as this is talking third gen consoles. (Though, fair enough, PS3's backwards compatible I believe).

 

Never knew Elder Scrolls was for PS3 though.

[/quote']

 

I believe they're still releasing games for the PS2, so technically it still counts.

 

I actually didn't know it was for the 360. It's also for the PC, which I would imagine is the best version because, well, it's a PC.

 

(Though' date=' fair enough, PS3's backwards compatible I believe).

 

[b']Not in the UK for some gay reason.[/b]

 

No, the PS3's newer models are no longer backwards compatible with PS2 games.