~Pokemon Gym League~ Battling Club Looking For Gym Leaders and Elite "4" Members!!

Spleko · June 3, 2009

[align=center]~Pokemon Gym League~ D/P/Plt. Battling Club(Subject to change)

[spoiler=[b]About this Club:[/b]]

This is a club dedicated to battling in Pokemon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum. Me and a friend organized how a possible Gym league could work. I wrote up the plans for it and we got it started. Anyone who enjoys competitive battling will love this club!!

[spoiler=[b]Club News[/b]]

-The Gyme League is not going to be open to challengers until we have at least 8 Gym members and 4 Elite Four member (we have one). The thread is still open to free battles of course, and anyone who wants to join the League as a Gym leader or Elite "4" member is very welcome to do so (please do).

-After dealing with some malcontents who came, complained about the rules while not joining, and left, I decided that Elite Four and Champion access to Ubers might be disliked by many, so even though I still think that they should be allowed one Uber, alas they are not.

[spoiler=[b]Rules*Read*:[/b]]

1.) Follow all the rules.

2.) Follow all the rules of this website.

3.) Follow all the rules of the Clubs and Organizations thread.

4.) The Champion’s word is final.

5.) In my extended absence I will notify Bassoonbuffoon, and he will be acting Champion until I return. (In addition to his own Elite “4” title).

[spoiler=[u]Becoming a Member:[/u]]

To become a member fill out the following form:

Username

FriendCode(s)

[spoiler=[b]Becoming a League Gym Leader *Limited time offer*[/b]:]

To apply to become a gym leader first select a type THAT HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN FILLED and PM me with a list of at least 6 Pokemon of that type. I will then walk you through the rest of the steps via PM.

[spoiler=[b]Becoming an Elite “4” Member[/b]*VERY LIMITED TIME OFFER*:]

PM me for details!

[spoiler=[b]Free Battles[/b]]At anytime, any members of this club can use this thread to request any type of battle from any other members. Basically not everyone in this club has to take part in the Gym League. You can simply come here to battle. Rules for free battles are determined by the battlers and are not subject to League rules

[spoiler=[u]Challenging the League[/u]]

If at any point you decide simply being a member of this club is not enough for you, you may challenge our league. To do so, simply PM me with a request to be registered as a challenger. If you are registered as a challenger you will find the title of “challenger” next to your username and friend code(s) under the member list instead of “member”.

Once you are a challenger you may post on the forum at any time requesting a Gym battle.

If your challenge is accepted then simply edit your post saying “Challenge accepted”. If you leave your computer or sign off before your Challenge is accepted then edit your post saying “Challenge Suspended/Canceled” to avoid confusion. If you defeat a gym it is then the responsibility of the Gym Leader to PM me telling me to add to the number of badges next to your name under the Challengers list.

Once you have 8 “badges”, by defeating eight gyms, you can begin requesting Elite “4” battles. The same rules apply for Elite “4” Battles as do gym Battles for requesting battles. It is again the Elite “4” member’s responsibility to PM me telling me to add to the number of “Elite badges” you have obtained.

Once you have obtained 4 “Elite badges” you may PM me to challenge the Champion (me).

Upon beating the league (beating the champion) you will receive the title of “League Graduate” next to your name in the member list. You will also receive a rep for me (yeah, one whole rep :P ), and a “Special badge” to put in your sig, if you so chose.

[spoiler=[u]Members[/u]]

Spleko~Champion~1418 3293 0895

Bassoonbuffoon~Elite “4” Member~*FC*

TwilightAvian~Member~2621 9723 0571

Namo™~Elite "4" Member~3223 2495 2957

Note: Any member with *FC* next to their status hasn’t submitted their friend code yet. It will be soon though.

[spoiler=[b]Gym Leaders[/b]]

The Gym members will have up to 15 pokemon to chose from for League challenges. They can have 1 Legendary(Non-Uber) Pokemon among these 15.

[spoiler=[u]Normal[/u]]

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[spoiler=[color=#FF4500]Fire[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#0000CD]Water[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#FFD700]Electric[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#32CD32]Grass[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#00BFFF]Ice[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#DAA520]Fighting[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#800080]Poison[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#8B4513]Ground[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#87CEEB]Flying[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#FF69B4]Psychic[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#6B8E23]Bug[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#DAA520]Rock[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#9370DB]Ghost[/color]]

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[spoiler=[color=#9400D3]Dragon[/color]]

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[spoiler=[u]Dark[/u]]

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[spoiler=[color=#A9A9A9]Steel[/color]]

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[spoiler=[b]Elite “4” Members:[/b]]The Elite four members will have up to 25 pokemon to chose from for League challenges.

[spoiler=[u]Bassoonbuffoon[/u]]Pokemon:

temporarily unavailable

[spoiler=[u]Unfilled[/u]]Unfilled

[spoiler=[b]Champion:[/b]]The Champion has 35 Pokemon to chose from for battle.

[spoiler=[u]Spleko[/u]]Pokemon:

[spoiler=[u]Battling Rules and Regulations:[/u]]

During League battles all of the following rules apply to both the challenger and League member; These include:

[spoiler=[u]Sleep Clause[/u]]

You may only put one Pokemon to sleep at a time. Once that Pokemon wakes up, you may put it or another Pokemon to sleep again. But again, only one Pokemon on their team can be asleep at one time. Pokemon asleep due to the effects of Rest or Effect Spore do NOT count towards that limit.

[spoiler=[u]Species Clause[/u]]

Each Pokemon must be of a different species. Different Pokedex number means it's a different species.

[spoiler=[u]Evasion Clause and OHKO Ban

Sometimes grouped together as "No DT/OHKO". The following moves are banned:[/u]]

- Double Team

- Minimize

- Fissure

- Guillotine

- Sheer Cold

- Horn Drill

Everything else, including Sand Attack, the item Bright Powder and the Sand Veil ability, are legal.

[spoiler=[u]Item Clause[/u]]

By far the most common non-standard rule, item clause states that each Pokemon on the team must be holding a different item from one another. So no double leftovers or focus sash. Items that do the same thing but aren't the same, such as leftovers and black sludge, are allowed.

[spoiler=[u]No "Hax" Items[/u]]

The following items are banned:

- Brightpowder

- Quick Claw

- Focus Band

- King's Rock

[spoiler=[u]Self-KO Clause[/u]]

This mostly only applies to tournaments. It's used to break ties. If both players are down to their last Pokemon and one uses a move that kills itself, such as Explosion, Self-Destruct, Destiny Bond, or Memento, the trainer who used that move is considered the loser in the match.

[spoiler=[u]Freeze Clause[/u]]

Only used in a controlled environment such as Pokemon Battle Revolution, Shoddy Battle, or the upcoming Competitor. Only one Pokemon may be frozen at the same time as another. Once one unfreezes, that Pokemon or another may be put back to sleep.

When challenging the league a challenger cannot use any Uber pokemon.

To determine what is and isn’t uber use the following tier list:

http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/

Executive changes: Wobbufett and Wynaut are banned, no exceptions. Arceus is banned, no exceptions. Gabite is OU.

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EliminateHRN · June 3, 2009

I'll apply:

Username: TwilightAvian

FriendCode(s): On Diamond: - 2621 9723 0571

I have one question. If we apply as a gym leader can we also use a non-pokemon of the type of gym pokemon we're using.? Like a mono team? And does Elite Four members use a specific type or only certain types?

Tekken Ham · June 3, 2009

This makes no sense. Challengers have to follow all the clauses but Gym Leaders can be all willy-nilly with 6 ScarfOgres and sweep?

This is madness. The Gym Leaders and E4 should be subject to the clauses as well, or else it's impossible to win against them if they have the foggiest idea of what they're doing.

Like, a Gym Leader can have the most broken Uber team, but the challengers have to stick with OU teams.

Gym Leaders can break Sleep Clause like a fiend, but challengers can't?

Gym Leaders can Double Team and Toxic stall while Challengers sit there and take it like a jabroni?

These rules are worse than Pokemon VGC.

EDIT: I just looked at Spleko's pool of pokemon and noticed 10 Ubers. Wtf?

Justify Gym Leaders breaking the rules.

Spleko · June 3, 2009

yay our first member ^.^ i will add you to the member list tomorrow as im going to bed soon, but to answer your questions:

Gym members are allowed to use pokemon that are not of thier type, yes. however, the leader must always have at least 4 pokemon in thier team of the gym type (for challenges, not free battles).

elite "4" members dont have to use a type specific team. if you look at our one elite four member so far you'll see that. however elite four members are encouraged to use some form of obvious strategy that you wouldnt find in a normal OU battle. this is also seen in the one elite four member we have's team. he focuses on weather to boost his team. his legends are kyogre and groudon. kyogre brings rain which will boost kingdra and all his other waters for example. there shoulod be a theme is basically what im saying, but it's not manditory, just encouraged. haha i hope that made sense :P i apologize for my grammer btw.

This makes no sense. Challengers have to follow all the clauses but Gym Leaders can be all willy-nilly with 6 ScarfOgres and sweep?

This is madness. The Gym Leaders and E4 should be subject to the clauses as well' date=' or else it's impossible to win against them if they have the foggiest idea of what they're doing.

Like, a Gym Leader can have the most broken Uber team, but the challengers have to stick with OU teams.

Gym Leaders can break Sleep Clause like a fiend, but challengers can't?

Gym Leaders can Double Team and Toxic stall while Challengers sit there and take it like a b****?

These rules are worse than Pokemon VGC.

EDIT: I just looked at Spleko's pool of pokemon and noticed 10 Ubers. Wtf?

Justify Gym Leaders breaking the rules.
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you obviously did not read close enough.
under the gym leader secotion it says that they are not allowed to use ubers. elite four members can only have one uber in thier team but they also must use a UU or NU pokemon if they use an Uber. Same goes for the champion cept he can use up to two ubers, but then must use two UU/NU.

I see where you're coming from for the other rules like double team and item clause etc. i will change those. but Ubers, especially being paired with NU in teams should not be extreemly hard to take down. when only one is in the team at least. and for the champion, since i am he, i can already tell you that i will not often use any ubers much less two. that is just an option since the champion is suposed to be hard. this isn't something anyone should just be able to go and do easily. its a challenge...

Tekken Ham · June 3, 2009

Justify Gym Leaders breaking the rules.

You danced around the question almost as bad as Miss Arizona.

I asked for a justification/explanation of why Leaders can break the rules and you only gave me an example of why they break the rules.

Yes I understand using different strategies, but I do not understand why Leaders are exempt from the standard battling clauses of the challengers, it is horribly unfair and gives the leaders a huge advantage because they have access to Ubers.

Also, why can't the E4 member use Brongzong with Damp Rock/Heat Rock to boost weather?

Also, you never explained why YOU have 10 ubers sitting there in your roster.

NUByrdman · June 3, 2009

Username: Ansem

Friend Code: PM

Tekken Ham · June 4, 2009

yay our first member ^.^ i will add you to the member list tomorrow as im going to bed soon' date=' but to answer your questions:
Gym members are allowed to use pokemon that are not of thier type, yes. however, the leader must always have at least 4 pokemon in thier team of the gym type (for challenges, not free battles).
elite "4" members dont have to use a type specific team. if you look at our one elite four member so far you'll see that. however elite four members are encouraged to use some form of obvious strategy that you wouldnt find in a normal OU battle. this is also seen in the one elite four member we have's team. he focuses on weather to boost his team. his legends are kyogre and groudon. kyogre brings rain which will boost kingdra and all his other waters for example. there shoulod be a theme is basically what im saying, but it's not manditory, just encouraged. haha i hope that made sense :P i apologize for my grammer btw.[hr']
This makes no sense. Challengers have to follow all the clauses but Gym Leaders can be all willy-nilly with 6 ScarfOgres and sweep?

This is madness. The Gym Leaders and E4 should be subject to the clauses as well' date=' or else it's impossible to win against them if they have the foggiest idea of what they're doing.

Like, a Gym Leader can have the most broken Uber team, but the challengers have to stick with OU teams.

Gym Leaders can break Sleep Clause like a fiend, but challengers can't?

Gym Leaders can Double Team and Toxic stall while Challengers sit there and take it like a b****?

These rules are worse than Pokemon VGC.

EDIT: I just looked at Spleko's pool of pokemon and noticed 10 Ubers. Wtf?

Justify Gym Leaders breaking the rules.
[/quote']

you obviously did not read close enough.
under the gym leader secotion it says that they are not allowed to use ubers. elite four members can only have one uber in thier team but they also must use a UU or NU pokemon if they use an Uber. Same goes for the champion cept he can use up to two ubers, but then must use two UU/NU.

I never read anything about that, however I saw:
Simply to re-iterate: THESE RULES ARE ONLY MANDATORY TO CHALLENGERS OF THE LEAGUE WHILE IN LEAGUE BATTLES. This means that gym leaders' date=' elite “4” members, and the champion are exempt from them. These also do not apply to free battles unless one of the battlers wants any or all of them in effect.[/quote']
There was never anything about NU's/UU's.
I see where you're coming from for the other rules like double team and item clause etc. i will change those. but Ubers, especially being paired with NU in teams should not be extreemly hard to take down.

There's no reason for leaders to just not use the NU in the battle and leave it in the party whilst the Uber sweeps.
NU doesn't mean bad, it just means not used. Ubers are broken in OU play thus they are Ubers. i.e Dialga has insane defenses and resistances, thus there is nothing stopping the trainer from using it to wall and leaving an NU in the party just to satisfy the rule.

when only one is in the team at least. and for the champion, since i am he, i can already tell you that i will not often use any ubers much less two. that is just an option since the champion is suposed to be hard. this isn't something anyone should just be able to go and do easily. its a challenge...
Challenge usually refers to fighting a very good player in an OU match, not playing someone using Ubers and breaking all the rules whilst you are stuck in OU. It's not a challenge, it's impossible to win against a decent Uber team, or even AN UBER, with an OU team.

ScarfOgre can wreck an OU team as it outspeeds nearly anything and rapes with Thunder/Water Spout.

You still haven't justified breaking the rules.

Pokemon are Ubers when they become too good for normal play, thus, they are restricted to Ubers only battles. By letting them back into OU play, you leave the Uber user at an incredible advantage if they have the slightest idea of what they are using.

Zexaeon · June 4, 2009

In addition to all that Cheese has mentioned, I will comment that pairing an Uber with a UU or Nu does not balance it out. Many UU/NU pokemon are very good - they simply need to be on the right teams. A pokemon's tier does njot fully determine it's value, and does not weaken a team with a friggin' Uber on it.

Not unless you force an Uber-user to use Caterpie. Or Magikarp.

Also why are YOU the Champion, right off the bat? We don't know how good you are. And I'm confident that any upper-battler in the pokemon Discussion Corner can probably beat you, based on your reasoning for your rules.

Spleko · June 4, 2009

Justify Gym Leaders breaking the rules.

You danced around the question almost as bad as Miss Arizona.

I asked for a justification/explanation of why Leaders can break the rules and you only gave me an example of why they break the rules.

Yes I understand using different strategies' date=' but I do not understand why Leaders are exempt from the standard battling clauses of the challengers, it is horribly unfair and gives the leaders a huge advantage because they have access to Ubers.

Also, why can't the E4 member use Brongzong with Damp Rock/Heat Rock to boost weather?

Also, you never explained why YOU have 10 ubers sitting there in your roster.
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i changed it, it makes sense to have leaders effected by clauses i guess.

also, if someone only has one uber on their team, while also having an NU/UU thing on thier team, they are not given much of an advantage. Most NU and UU things are easily OHKOed by any decent OU pokemon. I.E. it makes elite four members difficult but not impossible.

I have 10 ubers sitting in my roster just to make it so people cannot really predict what my team will be so much. The champion is suposed to be HARD. they are just there for options. I will never use over two at a time and like the elite four ill pair them with UU/NU, thus not giving much of an advantage.

It is not an extreeme advantage for a team if it has one uber, and that advantage is easily destroyed by having an NU/UU, which basically makes it 5 on 6 with the 5 having an Uber which you can count as 2 making it 6on6. My logic is sound, so i ask you in the nicest way i can, either join the club and don;t complain about the rules inless you want to PM me with simple ideas or opinions, or leave.

Tekken Ham · June 4, 2009

Justify Gym Leaders breaking the rules.

You danced around the question almost as bad as Miss Arizona.

I asked for a justification/explanation of why Leaders can break the rules and you only gave me an example of why they break the rules.

Yes I understand using different strategies' date=' but I do not understand why Leaders are exempt from the standard battling clauses of the challengers, it is horribly unfair and gives the leaders a huge advantage because they have access to Ubers.

Also, why can't the E4 member use Brongzong with Damp Rock/Heat Rock to boost weather?

Also, you never explained why YOU have 10 ubers sitting there in your roster.
[/quote']

i changed it, it makes sense to have leaders effected by clauses i guess.

also, if someone only has one uber on their team, while also having an NU/UU thing on thier team, they are not given much of an advantage. Most NU and UU things are easily OHKOed by any decent OU pokemon. I.E. it makes elite four members difficult but not impossible.
Many UU pokemon are amazing. I have video proof of Azumarill and Hitmontop, both UU, being amazing in an OU environment. Honestly, I would use Hitmontop over other OU sweepers, outside of say, Scizor, because it's broken like that. Azumarill is decently bulky and has survived a TBolt to the face from a Frosslass, which is again, on video. UU's don't get OHKO'd by decent OU pokemon. Porygon2 says hi.

I have 10 ubers sitting in my roster just to make it so people cannot really predict what my team will be so much.

Why not just not give them a roster?

The champion is suposed to be HARD. they are just there for options.

Yes I understand that, but no champion in any games have used an amazingly overpowered pokemon. Cynthia's Garchomp doesn't count because it isn't EV'd and dies really fast.

I will never use over two at a time and like the elite four ill pair them with UU/NU, thus not giving much of an advantage.
UU's are not a disadvantage.

It is not an extreeme advantage for a team if it has one uber, and that advantage is easily destroyed by having an NU/UU,

UU's are not disadvantages, some are amazing. Ubers are extreme advantages.
which basically makes it 5 on 6 with the 5 having an Uber which you can count as 2 making it 6on6. My logic is sound

Your logic makes as much sense as Scientology.

so i ask you in the nicest way i can, either join the club and don;t complain about the rules inless you want to PM me with simple ideas or opinions, or leave.

I wanted to join thhe club, but I read the BS rules and tried to change them, but it looks like you won't budge on the Ubers bit, and so I believe I speak for the rest of the PDC:

We will not join this league and will stick to our random Shoddy one, because at least Emo enforces rules on everybody so it isn't like we're living in the Middle East with a douchebag ruling us.

Spleko · June 4, 2009

After dealing with the above malcontents i have realized that even though In my opinion Ubers are ok for the elite four and Champion to access, many people do not, which in turn would reduce the number of people wanting to join this club...which is bad. Please do not think badly of me due to the above "discussion" or consider me a n00b, because I'm not, I have alot of experience with this game and at one point in time before i stopped playing due to the excesive amount of homework i had a 56-3 record, in all honesty, ask people on gamespot and gamefaqs, well people on gamespot and gamefaqs that knew me :P

But yeh, back to the point. Ubers are no longer going to be used by elite four members or the Champion

Spleko · June 5, 2009

[bump] We still need gym leaders and elite four!!!

Namo™ · June 5, 2009

well lets see...seeing as I am an Elite 4 here is my friend code: 3223 2495 2957. Name's Thomas

Spleko · June 6, 2009

added

NUByrdman · June 6, 2009

Me give up. Me no Elite member. Me wish to have done it Cumputer Wise but can't work out. Me quit. PLZ don't add me.

Namo™ · June 7, 2009

Hey does anyone wanna duel PM me when you want note that I am only on during 3:00-9:00 on Weekdays(In NY) and all day on weekends (In NY)

1-Up · June 7, 2009

Since you need more people...

I shall join this one too...

As always, Elite 4 if possible, although Gym Leader will work as well...

I may be relatively new to these forums, but I am one mean Pokemon battler...

Namo™ · June 9, 2009

Ah yes 1-Up I dont see why not :3

Spleko · June 12, 2009

Hello, sorry all members, this club has been moving very slow. I have final exams next week so school has been rough. Ive also been testing my newest team on shoddy, and Im yet to finish training it in my actuall d/p, and its not actually finished. (its 18-7, so i need to edit it some more)

So yes, moral of the story, after this week im going to try and get more members and hopefully everyone will be more active. For teh time being you can consider all of this clubs actions suspended(very temporarily).

YuMMaY · June 13, 2009

Name: YuMMaY

FC: 1720-0257-9176

Spleko · June 14, 2009

OK. ill be adding everyone later today and tomorrow

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