Zack Blaze Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 [align=center]I think that MBC is OPed. Its Effect has no cost. Plus its ATK can keep building forever! (Well, until you and your opponent run out of Spells) Discuss. [/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 "When this card attacks or is attacked, remove all Spell Counters from this card at the end of the Battle Phase." You were saying? Do you even read the whole effect? It's ATK increase is only good for one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Blaze Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 But still, even if it only has one attack, it can still do a lot of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 But still' date=' even if it only has one attack, it can still do a lot of damage.[/quote'] It has a base ATK of 1400........so it will take awhile to become useful. Plus, by the time it could've become a threat, your opponent would've Smashing Grounded, Vortexed, Karma Cut, Dark Cored, etc it to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Blaze Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Even if you only have a couple turns with it, you could activate 3 or more Spells, thats 2900+ ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaWave Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Again......1 Attack. If your opponent can't destroy this before it becomes a threat, they must suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 This is not OPd. The only OPd combo that I can think of with this is Gearfried + Butterfly Dagger - Elma. Butterfly Dagger - Elma is rightfully banned therefore this is not a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 this card is so OP no one runs it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Only OPed with Gearfried and Elma combo, which can't happen since Elma is banned.Nothing to worry about. =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 this card is so OP no one runs it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 This reminds me of that time when one of the 3-0ers on Pojo started banning anything that gained ATK from Spell Counters and had no upper limit on how many Spell Counters it could hold (including those that did not automatically gain them when a Spell was used), just in case some combo might emerge in the future that might somehow OTK with those cards but which would somehow not be banworthy itself (or maybe just in case someone thought Dark Red Enchanter would be perfect for a turbo deck). See, this is what gives 3-0 a bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 it is still monster that can hold a lot of spells counter that helps for using in other stuffs....and I'm pretty sure it can OTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 it is still monster that can hold a lot of spells counter that helps for using in other stuffs....and I'm pretty sure it can OTK Yes, it can OTK. All you need to do is play 14 Spells. Summoning a specific monster and then activating 14 Spells afterward is not a viable or noteworthy method of OTKing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 it is still monster that can hold a lot of spells counter that helps for using in other stuffs....and I'm pretty sure it can OTK Yes' date=' it can OTK. All you need to do is play 14 Spells. Summoning a specific monster and then activating 14 Spells afterward is not a viable or noteworthy method of OTKing.[/quote'] No! Not alone but 3 of theses can with TToC....lemme see 1400*3+1500*3 = 4200 + 4500 = 8700...see?Is a cheap OTK...for those who don't have money to make a Better one...XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 it is still monster that can hold a lot of spells counter that helps for using in other stuffs....and I'm pretty sure it can OTK Yes' date=' it can OTK. All you need to do is play 14 Spells. Summoning a specific monster and then activating 14 Spells afterward is not a viable or noteworthy method of OTKing.[/quote'] No! Not alone but 3 of theses can with TToC....lemme see 1400*3+1500*3 = 4200 + 4500 = 8700...see?Is a cheap OTK...for those who don't have money to make a Better one...XD And how do you intend to put three of these on the field? You'd need this + a way of Special Summoning this + Inferno Reckless Summon + Toon Table of Contents + some form of field clearing mass removal, probably Lightning Vortex. That's already a five-card combo right there, except it also requires you to have an extra card left over as a discard for Lightning Vortex's cost and hasn't even addressed the back row. Basically, both of these OTK's are inferior to Exodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 That's already a five-card combo right there, except it also requires you to have an extra card left over as a discard for Lightning Vortex's cost The Toon Gemini Elf you pick up with your 3rd Toon Table of Context. Not that it'd be worth running mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Card is outclassed by Dark Red Enchanter and Magical Marionette, since they also get ATK bia Spell activations and have a bigger base ATK.. that comes without mentioning they don't loose their Spell Counters after only 1 battle and can use them for something useful other than being a bad beatstick... The best way to OTK with Spell Counters is with Tempest Magician.. you don't have to worry about getting 16+ Spell Counters in the same turn, just the ones already gathered from previews turns. It is possible but even if its hard sometimes, its more effective than this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira the Savior Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Card is outclassed by Dark Red Enchanter and Magical Marionette' date=' since they also get ATK bia Spell activations and have a bigger base ATK.. that comes without mentioning they don't loose their Spell Counters after only 1 battle and can use them for something useful other than being a bad beatstick... The best way to OTK with Spell Counters is with Tempest Magician.. you don't have to worry about getting 16+ Spell Counters in the same turn, just the ones already gathered from previews turns. It is possible but even if its hard sometimes, its more effective than this guy.[/quote'] anything is more effective then this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathworld Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 check out deathworlds profile and cardshow do u get more stares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira the Savior Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 check out deathworlds profile and cardshow do u get more stares lol a n00b just idiotically posted spam on a fourm without reading the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathworld Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 ok i am going to make more cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira the Savior Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 ok i am going to make more cards we so care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathworld Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 hay ware are the rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira the Savior Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 hay ware are the rules Under the important threads section of any fourm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlickimenT Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Maiden or Macabre is like this, but there not removed I dont think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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