werewolfjedi Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 well, at least the combo doesn't have to be done all in one turn, just the attempt to kill it when you actually summon it. at least this one, unlike savor stardust, can otk in any way in the first place. plus, someone who doesn't know the card might try to T.T. it first thing before reading it. ( hey, people can be impulsive.) but it is not worth it in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Its alright. Not really competetive. IMO, its better then Savior Star Dragon. But thats JUSt IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 There's no point in counting cards in your extra deck as cards when speaking about card advantage. It's like saying Chimeratech Overdragon is a 3 card OTK' date=' rather then a 2 card one. Please, only speak about card advantage if you know what the hell you're talking about.[/quote'] I wasn't talking about Card Advantage. I was only talking about how many cards it takes to OTK with this card. It takes 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 How the funk will anyone ever be able to Summon this? The only thing it does is taking space in the Synchro Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 its liek they are trying to underpower cards:S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santi :D Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Excellent, more trade bait for little kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I know it is hard to summon but it is an Automatical win if it Reachs the field.Just think about it. im glad no one runs: Compulse' date=' Honest, PWWB, Book of Moon, E-Con, E-Tele+Krebons, Threatening Roar, Necro Gardna, or monster in defence. Because this guy would instantly win you the game after -3ing ur self. i noes ight[/sarcasm'] ^I LOL'D hard^ But still, you cant deny the fact, that the art is freakin' awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 The reason people classify OTK's as an X-card OTK is to give a rough estimate of how difficult it is to pull off the OTK. Cards that only need to be in the Extra Deck don't increase the difficulty at all, so they are not counted; counting them defeats the purpose of creating such a classification. God, YCM is dumber than ever. Also, this card requires a 4-card combo to even Summon, and takes even more to do anything other than "4000 damage, return to Extra Deck". Why are you idiots praising it as the most awesome card ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 KICK ASS ART FTW!It looks like RDA raped a phoenix but it decided to keep the baby...Anyway, this card FAILS compared to SSD. It's not worth the effort at all. And then after all of that all you get back is RDA. >_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santi :D Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Because little kids will give up their crush cards for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 The reason people classify OTK's as an X-card OTK is to give a rough estimate of how difficult it is to pull off the OTK. Cards that only need to be in the Extra Deck don't increase the difficulty at all' date=' so they are not counted; counting them defeats the purpose of creating such a classification. God, YCM is dumber than ever.[/quote'] I'd have to agree, if people need that explained to them still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Gold Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I like the card but having it return to the extra deck in the end phase, and it being way to hard to summon makes it like a 6/10 card. If you got your opponent's field empty then it would be better but still not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Oh, yeah, the whole Future Fusion + Ookazi thing? That's not a 2-card OTK; clearly, it's actually a 10-card OTK. Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Wait a second. DNA Surgery+Limiter Removal+Torrential+this=OTK. Terrible, I know. Have DNA Surgery on the field selecting Machine type. Summon this. Chain Torrential to that. Chain Limiter Removal to that. After Limiter Removal resolves, use this card's effect to negate Torrential and inflict 8000 damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Now imagine if a Cyber Stein for Synchros was released......sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I like the card but having it return to the extra deck in the end phase' date=' and it being way to hard to summon makes it like a 6/10 card. If you got your opponent's field empty then it would be better but still not very good.[/quote']^ Go read Savior Star Dragon's effect to realize how much worse this guy is.Here you go:"Salvation Dragon - Savior Dragon" + "Stardust Dragon" + 1 non-Tuner monsterWhen your opponent activates the effect of a Spell' date=' Trap or Effect Monster, you can Tribute this card to negate it, and destroy all cards your opponent controls. Once per turn, negate the effect(s) of 1 face-up monster your opponent controls until the End Phase. Also, that monster effect(s) can be treated as this card's effect and can be activated once. Return this card to the Extra Deck during the End Phase, and Special Summon 1 "Stardust Dragon" from your Graveyard.[/quote']^ See how much better it is yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 The fact that you get Stardust back... well, I guess thats the only reason it would be better then this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Oh' date=' yeah, the whole Future Fusion + Ookazi thing? That's not a 2-card OTK; clearly, it's actually a 10-card OTK. [i']Obviously[/i]. I don't know how to classify the fact you need to NOT draw cyber dragon, the 3 jinzos and the 3 jinzo - returner, to get the OTK. The fact you can't draw those reduce the chances at getting the OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Wait a second. DNA Surgery+Limiter Removal+Torrential+this=OTK. Terrible' date=' I know.[/quote'] What a waste of a post. Seriously, you idiots aren't funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Now imagine if a Cyber Stein for Synchros was released......s*** Imagine if a monster that can't Special Summon Nomi Synchros is released? What's the point to your post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Savior Demon Dragon isn't Nomi according to what the card text. No Synchros are, aside from Trident Dragon, and... uh... I forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Savior Demon Dragon isn't Nomi according to what the card text. No Synchros are' date=' aside from Trident Dragon, and... uh... I forget.[/quote'] My apologies. That means I can use it on DMU with that Trap Card that lets you Special Summon a Synchro Monster from your Synchro Deck. Can't you just use this with Phantom of Chaos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I wish I could play DMU again. Stupid slow Mac T_TAnyways, I guess you could, but eh, no really good way to get it in the grave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 ITT: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 As I kept reading, it sounded awesome, but the 1 Turn only kinda ruined it. Along with all the freakin' monsters you're gonna need. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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