FoolMeNever Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 I like Caballo' date=' but Canata (Caballo/Pinata) is ok too. Right? And, was that steel one dragon all the time, or only evo's? i forgot...[/quote'] His first stage wasn't dragon, that's why I'm asking Derek if he should gain the dragon type on Stage 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfree Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 i still dont think you made letal and leta ever been to cave of dragonflies gusta http://www.dragonflycave.com/fakes.aspx wooo page 100!! ?? I've Never Been There & Those Are My SpritesI Think Whoever Hosts That Site Stole My Sprites D:Hi there. *waves* I'm Dragonfree and I own that site. I incidentally also designed those Pokémon and made those sprites' date=' or they wouldn't be there. If you want me to start linkdumping, I can prove with relative ease that I was posting those Pokémon around the Internet in 2003 (meaning that if I stole them from you, you apparently made them when you were ten years old according to the age in your profile), but I'd really prefer if you just admitted that you stole them right now so I didn't have to go dig it all up. You were very foolish to choose me to steal from, because I have a long history of digging up thieves rather easily and getting pretty mad at them. Admit the theft now and I'll be nice, go away and leave you alone. By the way, since if somebody stole one thing he probably stole every decent thing he ever posted, I looked at some of his other posts. I didn't recognize many of the stuff he'd posted, but then I stumbled upon a spriting tutorial he'd attempted to post that I was sure I'd seen before so I looked around a little where I thought I'd seen it. Well, that was stolen too, and can be found in this post at another forum. Note that the post is dated September 28th 2006, while Derek claimed he "put it together" October 21st 2007 here in the tutorial thread, which would make it rather hard for Momogirl to have stolen it. It is also larger there and in much better quality, which shows which way around the theft went. Shame, really. Judging by your post count and this thread, you appear to have a considerable fanclub that will be heartbroken to find you're a thief. Why did you even bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iquitthiswebasite Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 i still dont think you made letal and leta ever been to cave of dragonflies gusta http://www.dragonflycave.com/fakes.aspx wooo page 100!! ?? I've Never Been There & Those Are My SpritesI Think Whoever Hosts That Site Stole My Sprites D:Hi there. *waves* I'm Dragonfree and I own that site. I incidentally also designed those Pokémon and made those sprites' date=' or they wouldn't be there. If you want me to start linkdumping, I can prove with relative ease that I was posting those Pokémon around the Internet in 2003 (meaning that if I stole them from you, you apparently made them when you were ten years old according to the age in your profile), but I'd really prefer if you just admitted that you stole them right now so I didn't have to go dig it all up. You were very foolish to choose me to steal from, because I have a long history of digging up thieves rather easily and getting pretty mad at them. Admit the theft now and I'll be nice, go away and leave you alone. By the way, since if somebody stole one thing he probably stole every decent thing he ever posted, I looked at some of his other posts. I didn't recognize many of the stuff he'd posted, but then I stumbled upon a spriting tutorial he'd attempted to post that I was sure I'd seen before so I looked around a little where I thought I'd seen it. Well, that was stolen too, and can be found in this post at another forum. Note that the post is dated September 28th 2006, while Derek claimed he "put it together" October 21st 2007 here in the tutorial thread, which would make it rather hard for Momogirl to have stolen it. It is also larger there and in much better quality, which shows which way around the theft went. Shame, really. Judging by your post count and this thread, you appear to have a considerable fanclub that will be heartbroken to find you're a thief. Why did you even bother?i think thats a bunchof bull crap.considering you just got your accuont AND this is your first post.i think your some guy who read this forum then jumped on and created a accuont named dragfree so the spotlite goes on you and they think you made it becuase the name was some what related to "cave of dragonflys" there fore make people believe you own that website.and if you realy are who you say you are im emailing the host of "cave of dragonflys" and i want you to tell me what it said and the email will start like this. carrots make every1 a winner becuase _______________________. and i want you to tell me what the blank part is wich will be revealed in the email.so......now....let me ask you.....are you the host of that website.now confess or watch me rat you out. oh and im sure you dont have proof of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxinator Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 i still dont think you made letal and leta ever been to cave of dragonflies gusta http://www.dragonflycave.com/fakes.aspx wooo page 100!! ?? I've Never Been There & Those Are My SpritesI Think Whoever Hosts That Site Stole My Sprites D:Hi there. *waves* I'm Dragonfree and I own that site. I incidentally also designed those Pokémon and made those sprites' date=' or they wouldn't be there. If you want me to start linkdumping, I can prove with relative ease that I was posting those Pokémon around the Internet in 2003 (meaning that if I stole them from you, you apparently made them when you were ten years old according to the age in your profile), but I'd really prefer if you just admitted that you stole them right now so I didn't have to go dig it all up. You were very foolish to choose me to steal from, because I have a long history of digging up thieves rather easily and getting pretty mad at them. Admit the theft now and I'll be nice, go away and leave you alone. By the way, since if somebody stole one thing he probably stole every decent thing he ever posted, I looked at some of his other posts. I didn't recognize many of the stuff he'd posted, but then I stumbled upon a spriting tutorial he'd attempted to post that I was sure I'd seen before so I looked around a little where I thought I'd seen it. Well, that was stolen too, and can be found in this post at another forum. Note that the post is dated September 28th 2006, while Derek claimed he "put it together" October 21st 2007 here in the tutorial thread, which would make it rather hard for Momogirl to have stolen it. It is also larger there and in much better quality, which shows which way around the theft went. Shame, really. Judging by your post count and this thread, you appear to have a considerable fanclub that will be heartbroken to find you're a thief. Why did you even bother?You didn't copyrighted it so you can't sue him for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightcaster Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 i still dont think you made letal and leta ever been to cave of dragonflies gusta http://www.dragonflycave.com/fakes.aspx wooo page 100!! ?? I've Never Been There & Those Are My SpritesI Think Whoever Hosts That Site Stole My Sprites D:Hi there. *waves* I'm Dragonfree and I own that site. I incidentally also designed those Pokémon and made those sprites' date=' or they wouldn't be there. If you want me to start linkdumping, I can prove with relative ease that I was posting those Pokémon around the Internet in 2003 (meaning that if I stole them from you, you apparently made them when you were ten years old according to the age in your profile), but I'd really prefer if you just admitted that you stole them right now so I didn't have to go dig it all up. You were very foolish to choose me to steal from, because I have a long history of digging up thieves rather easily and getting pretty mad at them. Admit the theft now and I'll be nice, go away and leave you alone. By the way, since if somebody stole one thing he probably stole every decent thing he ever posted, I looked at some of his other posts. I didn't recognize many of the stuff he'd posted, but then I stumbled upon a spriting tutorial he'd attempted to post that I was sure I'd seen before so I looked around a little where I thought I'd seen it. Well, that was stolen too, and can be found in this post at another forum. Note that the post is dated September 28th 2006, while Derek claimed he "put it together" October 21st 2007 here in the tutorial thread, which would make it rather hard for Momogirl to have stolen it. It is also larger there and in much better quality, which shows which way around the theft went. Shame, really. Judging by your post count and this thread, you appear to have a considerable fanclub that will be heartbroken to find you're a thief. Why did you even bother? This actually is true.I know this site, and it helped me laugh again. I was a bit sad around that time, someone i knew died. She still was around 20-30.Thanks Dragonfree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxinator Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 i still dont think you made letal and leta ever been to cave of dragonflies gusta http://www.dragonflycave.com/fakes.aspx wooo page 100!! ?? I've Never Been There & Those Are My SpritesI Think Whoever Hosts That Site Stole My Sprites D:Hi there. *waves* I'm Dragonfree and I own that site. I incidentally also designed those Pokémon and made those sprites' date=' or they wouldn't be there. If you want me to start linkdumping, I can prove with relative ease that I was posting those Pokémon around the Internet in 2003 (meaning that if I stole them from you, you apparently made them when you were ten years old according to the age in your profile), but I'd really prefer if you just admitted that you stole them right now so I didn't have to go dig it all up. You were very foolish to choose me to steal from, because I have a long history of digging up thieves rather easily and getting pretty mad at them. Admit the theft now and I'll be nice, go away and leave you alone. By the way, since if somebody stole one thing he probably stole every decent thing he ever posted, I looked at some of his other posts. I didn't recognize many of the stuff he'd posted, but then I stumbled upon a spriting tutorial he'd attempted to post that I was sure I'd seen before so I looked around a little where I thought I'd seen it. Well, that was stolen too, and can be found in this post at another forum. Note that the post is dated September 28th 2006, while Derek claimed he "put it together" October 21st 2007 here in the tutorial thread, which would make it rather hard for Momogirl to have stolen it. It is also larger there and in much better quality, which shows which way around the theft went. Shame, really. Judging by your post count and this thread, you appear to have a considerable fanclub that will be heartbroken to find you're a thief. Why did you even bother? This actually is true.I know this site, and it helped me laugh again. I was a bit sad around that time, someone i knew died. She still was around 20-30.Thanks Dragonfree.Buzz Off kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rscrash Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 [align=center]Actually daxinator: Pokémon' date=' Pikachu and all other Pokémon characters are © 1995-2007 Nintendo, GAME FREAK and Creatures. Inc. This website is purely the work of a fan.[b']All layouts, graphics and content © 2002-2007 Butterfree/Dragonfree/antialiasis unless otherwise stated.[/b] They are copyrighted. And, I doubt that Derek has stolen the other sprites as I have seen most spriting websites and popular pokemon websites but, I can't claim to have seen every scratch, so I don't know who to believe...[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfree Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 i still dont think you made letal and leta ever been to cave of dragonflies gusta http://www.dragonflycave.com/fakes.aspx wooo page 100!! ?? I've Never Been There & Those Are My SpritesI Think Whoever Hosts That Site Stole My Sprites D:Hi there. *waves* I'm Dragonfree and I own that site. I incidentally also designed those Pokémon and made those sprites' date=' or they wouldn't be there. If you want me to start linkdumping, I can prove with relative ease that I was posting those Pokémon around the Internet in 2003 (meaning that if I stole them from you, you apparently made them when you were ten years old according to the age in your profile), but I'd really prefer if you just admitted that you stole them right now so I didn't have to go dig it all up. You were very foolish to choose me to steal from, because I have a long history of digging up thieves rather easily and getting pretty mad at them. Admit the theft now and I'll be nice, go away and leave you alone. By the way, since if somebody stole one thing he probably stole every decent thing he ever posted, I looked at some of his other posts. I didn't recognize many of the stuff he'd posted, but then I stumbled upon a spriting tutorial he'd attempted to post that I was sure I'd seen before so I looked around a little where I thought I'd seen it. Well, that was stolen too, and can be found in this post at another forum. Note that the post is dated September 28th 2006, while Derek claimed he "put it together" October 21st 2007 here in the tutorial thread, which would make it rather hard for Momogirl to have stolen it. It is also larger there and in much better quality, which shows which way around the theft went. Shame, really. Judging by your post count and this thread, you appear to have a considerable fanclub that will be heartbroken to find you're a thief. Why did you even bother?i think thats a bunchof bull crap.considering you just got your accuont AND this is your first post.i think your some guy who read this forum then jumped on and created a accuont named dragfree so the spotlite goes on you and they think you made it becuase the name was some what related to "cave of dragonflys" there fore make people believe you own that website.and if you realy are who you say you are im emailing the host of "cave of dragonflys" and i want you to tell me what it said and the email will start like this. carrots make every1 a winner becuase _______________________. and i want you to tell me what the blank part is wich will be revealed in the email.so......now....let me ask you.....are you the host of that website.now confess or watch me rat you out. oh and im sure you dont have proof of anything.Oh, it's even better. I confirmed my identity myself here on my site. If I didn't own that site, I wouldn't have put there that I'm Dragonfree who posted on page 108 here, now, would I? And of course I'm a new member who just registered. I came here by looking through my site's referral logs, and had not registered before because I am not interested in Yu-Gi-Oh. I registered specifically to call Derek_Whaley on his theft. :/ Doesn't make me any less credible. You didn't copyrighted it so you can't sue him for thatLearn something about copyright, deary. If I made it, which I did, it is automatically copyrighted to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iquitthiswebasite Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 ok heres the proof this shows when the post wasposted and when it was editited Momogirl9-28-2006, 5:58 AMLast edited by MS : 10-2-2006 at 3:03 AM. derek whaley10-21-2007 10:02 AM so there.derek didnt make it.becuase the post was posted first but that doesnt prove that you own those sprites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterpie777 Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Two more!Name: DiainaiType: RockDescription: This pokemon looks like a diamond but, it has a substance of clay. No one has any idea how this pokemon eats.Height: 1.0'Length: 7.0''Weight: 20 lbsPokepower: Lightning RodMoves--- Rock Throw-- Rock Tomb-- Rock Blast10 Rock Slide25 Clay Figure (10pp, 0 Power, -- accuracy, this pokemon's type is now treated as Ground)37 Self-Destruct46 Leer46 Growl46 Tackle47 Explosion59 Diamond Blast (5pp, 100 power, 50 accuracy, this move always hits first, if this hits, the opponent's pokemon flinches) 60 Spearling (1pp, 150 power, -- accuracy, this move can't hit pokemon lower leveled than this pokemon)100 Shadow Force Name: ShapinaiType: RockDescription: This evolved form of DIAINAI sits in caverns and looks for other groups of SHAPINAI to sit with, they are very loving.Height: 1.1'Length: 1.3'Weight: 40 lbsPokepower: Lightning RodMoves--- Rock Throw-- Rock Tomb-- Rock Blast-- Rock Slide29 Clay Figure (10pp, 0 Power, -- accuracy, this pokemon's type is now treated as Ground)46 Self-Destruct50 Leer50 Growl50 Tackle51 Explosion63 Diamond Blast (5pp, 100 power, 50 accuracy, this move always hits first, if this hits, the opponent's pokemon flinches) 66 Spearling (1pp, 150 power, -- accuracy, this move can't hit pokemon lower leveled than this pokemon)75 Dream Eater75 Dark Void100 Shadow Force Evolves into with friendship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfree Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 That's the proof for the tutorial. If you really want the proof for Leta, let's see, this is where I originally posted these particular sprites in March: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=5803568&postcount=421 Hmm, okay, it was January 2004 that I made them, then, not 2003, but here's the first thread I posted their information in, before I made the sprites, and where the names were suggested to me. I posted pictures, but it's such an old thread that the attachments have been deleted: http://www.pokemasters.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6786&highlight=Letaligon Here are some (admittedly bad) pictures of Leta and Letal that I posted in 2004: http://www.pokemasters.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8697&highlight=Letaligon Do you want me to pull out archive.org versions of my fake Pokémon pages, too, or is this enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iquitthiswebasite Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 ok....so im convinced.....but just a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iquitthiswebasite Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 yay! may and ash! [attachment=14759] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 ok, if we give credit to you making the sprites will you f*** off! I'm sorry for swearing but this guy is getting annoying! I was planning to stay out of this argument, but I'm cannot stand it any longer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FoolMeNever Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Why the heck did you post that again. And hopefully that's the last we've seen of that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfree Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 ok' date=' if we give credit to you making the sprites will you f*** off! I'm sorry for swearing but this guy is getting annoying! I was planning to stay out of this argument, but I'm cannot stand it any longer![/quote']I don't want credit. I want Derek_Whaley to apologize for being an art thief and I want you not to use them, period. I don't want them used by anyone but me and a select few who got permission long ago. And I'm a girl, and honestly, if you find people revealing the truth and exposing theft to be "annoying" and want them to "f*** off", you've got some mighty messed-up morals. :/ Would you say that to the police if they were doing a murder investigation somewhere close to your home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 ok' date=' if we give credit to you making the sprites will you f*** off! I'm sorry for swearing but this guy is getting annoying! I was planning to stay out of this argument, but I'm cannot stand it any longer![/quote']I don't want credit. I want Derek_Whitey to apologize for being an art thief and I want you not to use them, period. I don't want them used by anyone but me and a select few who got permission long ago. And I'm a girl, and honestly, if you find people revealing the truth and exposing theft to be "annoying" and want them to "f*** off", you've got some mighty messed-up morals. :/ Would you say that to the police if they were doing a murder investigation somewhere close to your home? I apologize for telling you to f*** off. How am I supposed to know you were a girl! And you know what, I'm quitting the project, I may quit the site. And you know what's strange? Those sprites were posted here quite a few pages ago, I don't recall you coming then. And it's Derek_WHALEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iquitthiswebasite Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 ok can we stop now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfree Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Fixed the name. I didn't assume you knew I was a girl; I just politely pointed out that I was. And the reason I came here now is that I discovered it now. I am not the omniscient ruler of the internet who instantly knows automatically when a sprite has been stolen, not that I wouldn't like to be. I discover art theft by looking through the referrer logs on my website every now and then and Googling some of the names of my fake Pokémon every now and then. Do you also find it "strange" when the police don't discover the body until the day after somebody gets murdered? You sound like you're just being bitter and trying to find some excuse to discredit me even though I've already posted pretty conclusive proof that I had already created those Pokémon in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 I'm not trying to discredit you. But I am quitting the project until this matter is resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rscrash Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 is anybody there? [align=center]Wtf? You need to stop spamming. Dragonfree: This is completely different from a murder. I understand that these are your sprites and all' date=' and you have the right to let people use them and not let people use them and whatnot but can you please stop arguing at least until Derek comes online?[/align'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 also Flame Dragon This is a public club you don't have to ask to join' date=' just post & help out.[/quote'] is this true? does it mean i can help out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God GAK Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 Seems like rscrash said it the best way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxinator Posted December 2, 2007 Report Share Posted December 2, 2007 wat are you talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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