OMGAKITTY Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Is a person born inherently good, or inherently evil? Give reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Neither.Because a person is good if he believes his actions are good.A person is evil if he believes his actions are evil. Stupid Poll is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 False. A person is good if his/her actions conform to what society believes is good, and is bad if they go against what society thinks is good. According to you, Hitler was a good person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 False. A person is good if his/her actions conform to what society believes is good' date=' and is bad if they go against what society thinks is good. According to you, Hitler was a good person.[/quote'] Of course he is.But we are bound by societies dictations are we not? Although I myself do believe what he did was evil, but that does not make him so. Because I can walk up to an old lady and call her the Hag from Hell for sipping tea. But that does not make it so, if she believes it's a good thing. Alas I digress. Not going to debate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Phoenix Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Good and evil are matters of perception. Thus, the results of the poll will be different for everyone. You'll get no accurate findings from it, therefore this poll is invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Is a person born inherently good' date=' or inherently evil? [b']Give reasons.[/b] Neither because it depends on the environment he/she is raised in. It is was leads us to biasesness. For example, all the news we watch may give multiple POVs, but in the end it's still a limited range of POVs and therefore shapes how we view society. From another person's POV they may see us inherently evil because he/she was raised in a different environment with different POVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrekstasy Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fake Apology Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Is a person born inherently good' date=' or inherently evil? [b']Give reasons.[/b] Neither because it depends on the environment he/she is raised in. It is was leads us to biasesness. For example, all the news we watch may give multiple POVs, but in the end it's still a limited range of POVs and therefore shapes how we view society. From another person's POV they may see us inherently evil because he/she was raised in a different environment with different POVs. The whole point being, at birth, before society influences a person, is that person inclined toward acts of good, or evil? The problem being that good and evil are completely relative. Personally, I think that people are inclined toward selfishness...which can be seen as an evil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 How can that be considered selfish if he knows not of otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 How can that be considered selfish if he knows not of otherwise? devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests' date=' benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.[/quote'] It doesn't matter if they realize they are selfish or not, their actions are still selfish. If a small child wants a toy, they will grab it, regardless of whether it is theirs, or if someone else is using it or not. Of course, at this point, the parent should reprimand the child, leading to the slow process of conforming it to society's views of right and wrong. But at the beginning, before influence, the thing they are most concerned with is themselves. (But then again, its pretty logical, caring about yourself is class A survival instinct) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Fact: This is not a debate.Also, another fact. That person can not know what their actions are benefiting if that's the case. So if they see it as helpful for "others". It is to them, and thus not selfish. Because again, he knows not of otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted May 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Fact: This is not a debate.Also' date=' another fact. That person can not know what their actions are benefiting if that's the case. So if they see it as helpful for "others". It is to them, and thus not selfish. Because again, he knows not of otherwise.[/quote'] You're telling me that when the baby wakes up his/her parents at 3 in the morning its because they think its "helpful for others"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Legacy Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Good Is Evil, and Evil is Good. [spoiler=basically] Neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shore Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 >.< debates pl0x?idk. People are in a sense born greedy, selfish and weak. But we have to accept that the evil within us is part of what lets us survive. Like that star trek episode where kirk gets split into his good half and his evil half. Yeah, I just referenced a trek that isn't the movie. Cuz I'm cool like that.-ZQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tkill93 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 imo good and evil are just ideas which exist in our heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Well, the human race is not entirely good nor entirely evil. Mankind falls between good and evil, where their actions tend to push and pull due to world events. Though, you may say the human race is evil, but it is in our chemistry as a people to fight when people intrude on you in some way, predetorial instinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommers2008 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 False. A person is good if his/her actions conform to what society believes is good' date=' and is bad if they go against what society thinks is good. According to you, Hitler was a good person.[/quote'] Wrong... Society fails.. What about in a small town where the people are all racist or something... The society would more then likely see an act of racism as a good thing, but it isn't so your logic fails... But the person you were answering their logic also fails... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelioSpark Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Neither, humans are simply "flawed" from birth. Plus, there is no universal view on what "absolute good" and "absolute evil" are. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 False. A person is good if his/her actions conform to what society believes is good' date=' and is bad if they go against what society thinks is good. According to you, Hitler was a good person.[/quote'] Wrong... Society fails.. What about in a small town where the people are all racist or something... The society would more then likely see an act of racism as a good thing, but it isn't so your logic fails... But the person you were answering their logic also fails... No it doesn't.I simply didn't want to make this into a debate. This is polls.While I am bound to answer the question, I am also bound to follow the rules of the forum. Excuse me for showing some restraint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Culpa Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Transcandentalist is going to say "Humans are incompetent and need to rise above the trivial things like good and evil in this world to create a utopian society." I say "That won't work, because people differ in views because that is how they were raised." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommers2008 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 False. A person is good if his/her actions conform to what society believes is good' date=' and is bad if they go against what society thinks is good. According to you, Hitler was a good person.[/quote'] Wrong... Society fails.. What about in a small town where the people are all racist or something... The society would more then likely see an act of racism as a good thing, but it isn't so your logic fails... But the person you were answering their logic also fails... No it doesn't.I simply didn't want to make this into a debate. This is polls.While I am bound to answer the question, I am also bound to follow the rules of the forum. Excuse me for showing some restraint. Oh it was you icy i was too lazy to scroll up and didn't recognize your avi so just put other person... Yes i understand you weren't trying to turn this into a debate, but that doesn't stop your argument being flawed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Happens... If this were debates, I assure you it wouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommers2008 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Move it to prove it if you want that is..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 How can that be considered selfish if he knows not of otherwise? devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests' date=' benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.[/quote'] It doesn't matter if they realize they are selfish or not, their actions are still selfish. If a small child wants a toy, they will grab it, regardless of whether it is theirs, or if someone else is using it or not. Of course, at this point, the parent should reprimand the child, leading to the slow process of conforming it to society's views of right and wrong. But at the beginning, before influence, the thing they are most concerned with is themselves. (But then again, its pretty logical, caring about yourself is class A survival instinct) Oh please. No matter how much influence we are exposed to, deep down we're all still selfish. It's not something we can get rid of, we can only suppress it. There is technically no such thing as a person who would help others for the sake of generosity. Deep down, he/she always wants something in return, even if he/she shows no sign of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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