E-Hero Divine Neos Discussion

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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Elemental_Hero_Divine_Neos

[Toffee.]

Its perfect tradebait?

[Sunshine Jesse]

He wouldnt be good even if you doubled his ATK and DEF. If he had some built in destruction protection, or he kept the hero effects permanently, or maybe removing more then one per turn, THEN he would be worth the obnoxious amount of effort you have to put into getting him out. But nope.

[CrabHelmet]

Eh, he has a couple of OTK's and provides a convenient mass dump target for Future Fusion.

[Azuh]

IMO, Its one of the better E-Hero Fusions... why?

 

- Its a pretty easy Summon, you can Future Fusion into it, Miracle Fusion, etc. If these work out, you get 2 Mass beatsticks

 

- Copies effects such as Voltics, allowing you to swarm the field with E-Heroes in a single turn

 

Its pretty much very well designed. I like it

[Thegargoylevine]

It's art is shweet. I'd want it just so I could look at it in the front page of my collection book. It reminds me of Honest... And even though lots of people didn't, I loved Honest's art (except for the darn feather in the middle of it). [/spam]

 

Back on subject, it's decent for an E-Hero fusion, as it doesn't have any requirements for the monsters to be in your hand or in your field. I'm sure they'll be lots of OTKs with it.

[SephirothKirby]

Oh my god, I've been trying to make a deck around this thing for ages, it's friggin' impossible.

[Tronta]

REMOVE GRAND MOLE.

[Azuh]

Oh my god' date=' I've been trying to make a deck around this thing for ages, it's friggin' impossible.

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1| Elemental Hero Neos

2| Destiny Hero - Malicious

 

3| Neo space pathfinder

3| Elemental Hero Voltic

1| Neo-spacian Grand Mole

3| Neo-Spacian Dark Panther

1| Rescue Cat

1| Elemental Hero Stratos

3| Elemental Hero Prisma

 

1| Reinforcement of the Army

3| E-emergency Calls

1| Future Fusion

3| Miracle Fusion

1| Heavy Storm

1| Mystical Space Typhoon

1| Monster Reborn

2| Neo Space

3| Lightning Vortex

 

3| Solemn Judgment

2| PWWB

1| Mirror Force

 

3| Elemental Hero God Neos

1| Elemental Hero Grand Neos

1| Elemental Hero Dark Neos

[DARKPLANT RISING]

This Card is PLAIN AWESOME with Future Fusion, but since it's now limited to 1, you would need TONS of Different Dimention Capusele or Gold Sarchfagus (sorry for spelling im still 11) to make a good deck around it.

However, without those, it is QUITE IMPOSSIBLE to get his super hard materials to your hand and field, unless you put those cards that you need together inside your deck. Which is a type of cheating if you do it intentionally.

[Sleepy]

Oh my god' date=' I've been trying to make a deck around this thing for ages, it's friggin' impossible.

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1| Elemental Hero Neos

2| Destiny Hero - Malicious

 

3| Neo space pathfinder

3| Elemental Hero Voltic

1| Neo-spacian Grand Mole

3| Neo-Spacian Dark Panther

1| Rescue Cat

1| Elemental Hero Stratos

3| Elemental Hero Prisma

 

1| Reinforcement of the Army

3| E-emergency Calls

1| Future Fusion

3| Miracle Fusion

1| Heavy Storm

1| Mystical Space Typhoon

1| Monster Reborn

2| Neo Space

3| Lightning Vortex

 

3| Solemn Judgment

2| PWWB

1| Mirror Force

 

3| Elemental Hero God Neos

1| Elemental Hero Grand Neos

1| Elemental Hero Dark Neos

 

Interesting :)

while you are at it, how well would it work if I wanted to dump one or two Dashers? (just curious)

[Mehmani]

It's art is shweet. I'd want it just so I could look at it in the front page of my collection book. It reminds me of Honest... And even though lots of people didn't' date=' I loved Honest's art (except for the darn feather in the middle of it).

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*INB4COOLSTORYBRO*

[Kyosuke Kiryu]

Is it me, or is it worded like EHDN keeps the 500 points he gains and only loses the effect?

[Dragonzord]

Eh' date=' he has a couple of OTK's and provides a convenient mass dump target for Future Fusion.

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Why can you use Future Fusion with this and not with FGD?

[Mysty]

Is it me' date=' or is it worded like EHDN keeps the 500 points he gains and only loses the effect?

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He keeps his boost, but loses the effect. That is exactly what it says, and means.

I think there was a discussion about this card before, but I guess that one was too old to bump.

As for the card, great for Future Fusion, but the way I see this card only being run is:

 

1. In a Neos deck, which means you're just adding in Future Fusion, Miracle Fusion, or Polymerization into a deck that doesn't need any of them.

 

2. In a deck similar to Jaden's, which would only be good if "Get Your Game On!" were legal and didn't have its activation restriction.

 

Great to trade, though. I traded my Divine Neos for an Ultimate Rare Arcana Force XXI - The World.

 

Also, @Dragonzord, I'm sure you can use Future Fusion with FGD. Isn't that how Hopeless Dragon works?

[Dragonzord]

I could have sworn the ruling for FGD was that Future Fusion didn't work because it doesn't specifically name any monsters. Maybe I'm thinking of something else?

[CrabHelmet]

That's Prisma. Future Fusion works fine with F.G.D.

[Mysty]

I could have sworn the ruling for FGD was that Future Fusion didn't work because it doesn't specifically name any monsters. Maybe I'm thinking of something else?

 

TCG Rulings

 

* "Future Fusion" must remain on the field for the effect to activate. If it is not on the field during the 2nd Standby Phase' date=' then you do not Special Summon the Fusion Monster.[1']

 

* You cannot use substitute Fusion Material Monsters such as "King of the Swamp". You must use the monsters listed on the Fusion Monster Card.[1]

 

* You cannot activate "Future Fusion" if you do not have a Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck and the appropriate Fusion Material Monsters in your Main Deck.[1]

 

* Destroying the monster when "Future Fusion" is removed from the field is an effect that cannot be chained to.[1]

 

* If the Special Summoned Fusion Monster is removed from the field without being destroyed then "Future Fusion" will remain on the field meaninglessly.[1]

 

* You cannot select a Fusion Monster that has another Fusion Monster as one of its Materials, such as "Dark Flare Knight" or "Elemental Hero Shining Flare Wingman", for "Future Fusion". The Fusion Material Monsters must be sent from the Main Deck.[1]

 

* You can chain "Royal Oppression" to negate "Future Fusion" when the card is activated (placed face-up on the field).[1]

 

* "Future Fusion’s" effect counts Standby Phases, not turns, so "Pyro Clock of Destiny" would have no effect.[1]

 

* You cannot select a Fusion Monster that can only be Special Summoned by the method written in its text, like "Gladiator Beast Heraklinos", "Elemental Hero Grand Neos", "XYZ-Dragon Cannon", or "Evil Hero Dark Gaia".[1]

 

[edit] Mentions in other Rulings

 

* Chain Material: You cannot use "Chain Material's" effect when resolving "Instant Fusion" or "Future Fusion".

 

* Chimeratech Overdragon: If this card is Special Summoned by the effect of "Future Fusion" while you have "Cyber Phoenix" in Attack Position, when this card's effect sends all other cards you control to the Graveyard "Future Fusion" is still being negated, so the "Chimeratech Overdragon" will not be destroyed and remains on the field.

 

* Dimension Fortress Weapon: “Future Fusion” cannot be activated while “Dimension Fortress Weapon” is on the field. If “Future Fusion” is activated, and “Dimension Fortress Weapon” is Summoned in a chain, the effect of “Future Fusion” is not applied, no monsters are sent to the Graveyard, no Fusion Monster is Special Summoned, and “Future Fusion” remains on the field meaninglessly.

 

edit OCG Rulings

 

* The Fusion Material Monsters are sent to the Graveyard when "Future Fusion" resolves.[2]

 

* "Future Fusion" does not target the monster in your Fusion Deck - you choose which Fusion Monster to Summon when resolving the effect. After the monster is Summoned, "Future Fusion" continuously targets the monster.[2]

 

* You cannot use Fusion Substitute Monsters, since they have no effect while in the deck.[3]

 

* "Future Fusion" must remain on the field for the effect to activate. If it is not on the field during the 2nd Standby Phase, then you do not Special Summon the Fusion Monster.[4]

 

* If "Chain Material" has been activated, when you activate "Future Fusion", you can use Monsters from your Deck/Hand/Field/Graveyard as Fusion Material Monsters.[5]

 

* If you activate "Future Fusion" and send "Jinzo" and "Jinzo - Returner" to the Graveyard to Summon "Chimeratech Overdragon", then you can activate the effect of "Jinzo - Returner" and Special Summon "Jinzo".[6]

 

* While "Koa'ki Meiru Drago" is on the field, "Future Fusion"/"Instant Fusion"/etc can still be activated, and the effect of "Cyber-Stein" can still be activated. However, when resolving the effect, you can choose neither a LIGHT nor a DARK Fusion Monster to Special Summon. If you only have LIGHT and DARK Fusion Monsters in your Extra Deck, then you cannot activate "Future Fusion"/the effect of "Cyber-Stein"/etc.[7]

 

* If "Future Fusion" is activated and chooses a LIGHT or DARK monster and later the effect of "Koa'ki Meiru Drago" is applied, then during your second Standby Phase no monster is Special Summoned and "Future Fusion" remains on the field meaninglessly.[7]

 

* The effect of "Royal Oppression" can negate the "Future Fusion" when "Future Fusion" is first activated. However, during the second Standby Phase when the Fusion Monster is Special Summoned, you cannot activate the effect of "Royal Oppression".

 

I don't see a ruling that says you can't. You're probably thinking of Elemental Hero Prisma or possibly even Revoke Fusion.

Wow Crab Helmet, you beat me to it.

[Dragonzord]

Yeah, I think I was thinking of Prisma. Thanks, guys!

[Crow™]

2500 ATK....hmm.....not so divine is it....?

Its perfect tradebait?

^ Exactly.

[RyanAtlus]

Its perfect tradebait?

 

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