Official Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Thread

[Dark]

I honsetly don't think you understand.

 

Unless those guides were published BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES (Like the HGSS guides atm), I am oblivious to anything you are saying. Smogon isn't a website filled with dumbasses; they actually do their research.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

I honsetly don't think you understand.

 

Unless those guides were published BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES (Like the HGSS guides atm)' date=' I am oblivious to anything you are saying. Smogon isn't a website filled with dumbasses; they actually do their research.

[/quote']

 

Pics or i'm calling BS

[Dark]

Pics of research? Have you seen their forum? They are really professional about the shit they do.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

Pics of research? Have you seen their forum? They are really professional about the shit they do.

 

pics of the HG guide. I want to see if it was printed by Nintendo because I bet they didn't. Prima and Bradygames are the major walkthrough companies. I doubt Pokemon is going to make one. Prima's pokemon walktrhoughs are sponsored by Pokemon USA, Inc.

[Dark]

Unless Pokemon makes it itself and I am sure a developer of the game is on the writers list of the guide, your point is invalid. The only people who would be 10000% sure about base stats are the people who created the game. And they didn't make base stats fluctuate between generations. Face it; your book is completely wrong. And if I had the time, I'd pop out my Leaf Green and raise a Charmander to level 100. But I don't have the time, nor do I have the patience to wait for max IVs.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

Unless Pokemon makes it itself and I am sure a developer of the game is on the writers list of the guide' date=' your point is invalid. The only people who would be 10000% sure about base stats are the people who created the game. And they didn't make base stats fluctuate between generations. Face it; your book is completely wrong. And if I had the time, I'd pop out my Leaf Green and raise a Charmander to level 100. But I don't have the time, nor do I have the patience to wait for max IVs.

[/quote']

 

what's the creator's name because I can't remember.

[Dark]

Remember, Google is just a ploy to get Pedobear to show up at your house. It doesn't really exist, nor does it work if you type in anything and hit "Search".

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

Remember' date=' Google is just a ploy to get Pedobear to show up at your house. It doesn't really exist, nor does it work if you type in anything and hit "Search".

[/quote']

 

the fuk? do you not know either?

[Flame Dragon]

the underlined is wrong. Using rare candies creates lower stats than you could have gotten. Using mega exp. creates lower potential stats. My hand-raised team from fire red can beat yours easily if they're at level 100 right now. The thing people don't know is that if you were to clone two charmanders in emerald. Put one in HG and put the other in fire red. Train them against the same exact pokemon then the fire red charmander will be stronger.

No' date=' you are wrong because you have no knowledge of competitive play. All rare candies do is increase your level by one. That is it. The reason why so many people think it lowers your pokemon stats is because if you go from level 1 to 100 your missing out on 508 EVs. That in total increases your pokemon stats by 127 points. Um, no it won't. If the pokemon have the same base stats, nature, IVs and EVs they should come out the same. Where did you even hear that?

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charmander

http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/charmander

 

Ten thousand percent the same. And I assume this is the same for every Pokemon.

 

brb taking pics to prove you wrong.

---

CHARMANDER DP GUIDE

CHARMANDER FR P.U.G

 

ENTEI DP

 

ENTEI FR

Um' date=' what does this prove. The one, from what I can see, uses numbers, the other uses some bars. And yea, the bar levels in the FR/LG pokedex books are different from the ones in the D/P ones. O, and the funny thing here is the difference is opposite of what you said, the D/P one is higher, stronger, then the FR one. And even with that the thing here is neither has numbers (the FR/LG and D/P guides) . Just because they scales don't show the same thing the pokemon stats could easily be the same since you have no idea what they are standing for.

 

Since your using Charmander as an example in the FR/LG dex he has 1 atk 2 speed and 2 sp atk. The D/P one has 2 for all 3. The problem is that both can be true and be using the same numbers. If, lets say a 50 is the cut off for a 2 in the D/P guide then charmander would have 2 in all those stats. If the FR and LG used 60 as the place to give 2 then he would have a 1 in atk and 2 in the other two.

 

As Dark said if you move pokemon from the 3rd gen games into the 4th gen do the stats change, no. If their was any change in the pokemon stats it would be shown when the pokemon moves over from one gen to another.

 

I honsetly don't think you understand.

 

Unless those guides were published BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES (Like the HGSS guides atm)' date=' I am oblivious to anything you are saying. Smogon isn't a website filled with dumbasses; they actually do their research.

[/quote']

 

Pics or i'm calling BS

Smogon is the group the creat the very meta of pokemon. They create the Uber list all the way down to NU. These people know what they are doing.

 

And just to show you some souces.

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/004.shtml (4th gen)

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/004.shtml (3rd gen)

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charmander (4th gen)

http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/charmander (3rd gen)

 

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Charmander_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

 

Those are some of the best places to learn about pokemon and NONE of them show any base stat changes.

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

the underlined is wrong. Using rare candies creates lower stats than you could have gotten. Using mega exp. creates lower potential stats. My hand-raised team from fire red can beat yours easily if they're at level 100 right now. The thing people don't know is that if you were to clone two charmanders in emerald. Put one in HG and put the other in fire red. Train them against the same exact pokemon then the fire red charmander will be stronger.

No' date=' you are wrong because you have no knowledge of competitive play. All rare candies do is increase your level by one. That is it. The reason why so many people think it lowers your pokemon stats is because if you go from level 1 to 100 your missing out on 508 EVs.[/b'] That in total increases your pokemon stats by 127 points. Um, no it won't. If the pokemon have the same base stats, nature, IVs and EVs they should come out the same. Where did you even hear that?

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charmander

http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/charmander

 

Ten thousand percent the same. And I assume this is the same for every Pokemon.

 

brb taking pics to prove you wrong.

CHARMANDER DP GUIDE

CHARMANDER FR P.U.G

 

ENTEI DP

 

ENTEI FR

Um' date=' what does this prove. The one, from what I can see, uses numbers, the other uses some bars. And yea, the bar levels in the FR/LG pokedex books are different from the ones in the D/P ones. O, and the funny thing here is the difference is opposite of what you said, the D/P one is higher, stronger, then the FR one. And even with that the thing here is neither has numbers (the FR/LG and D/P guides) . Just because they scales don't show the same thing the pokemon stats could easily be the same since you have no idea what they are standing for.

 

Since your using Charmander as an example in the FR/LG dex he has 1 atk 2 speed and 2 sp atk. The D/P one has 2 for all 3. The problem is that both can be true and be using the same numbers. If, lets say a 50 is the cut off for a 2 in the D/P guide then charmander would have 2 in all those stats. If the FR and LG used 60 as the place to give 2 then he would have a 1 in atk and 2 in the other two.

[/u']

As Dark said if you move pokemon from the 3rd gen games into the 4th gen do the stats change, no. If their was any change in the pokemon stats it would be shown when the pokemon moves over from one gen to another.

 

I honsetly don't think you understand.

 

Unless those guides were published BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES (Like the HGSS guides atm)' date=' I am oblivious to anything you are saying. Smogon isn't a website filled with dumbasses; they actually do their research.

[/quote']

 

Pics or i'm calling BS

Smogon is the group the creat the very meta of pokemon. They create the Uber list all the way down to NU. These people know what they are doing.

 

And just to show you some souces.

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/004.shtml (4th gen)

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/004.shtml (3rd gen)

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charmander (4th gen)

http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/charmander (3rd gen)

 

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Charmander_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

 

Those are some of the best places to learn about pokemon and NONE of them show any base stat changes.

 

I bolded the part I'm picking at first.

1. you need an effort ribbon, there is a difference

2. I've been in competitive play since Blue came out

 

I underlined the part I'm picking at next

1. Do what I did, there's a difference.

2. they changed the stats drastically between gen. 1 & 2 Mewtwo would've made you the playground pokemon king. When Golod came out not anymore

3. Gen. 2 & 3 gen. 2 My feraligator lv. 100 had a attack stat of 287. Gen. 3 Feraligator attack- 201

Gen 3 & 4 Entei- 430 hp Gen. 4 (same exact Entei not hacked) Hp.-393

 

I have all of these on emu and I will gladly provide pics once I get a better emu because my current one changes the language of the game.

 

The italicized is what I'm picking at next.

Saying Smogon is one of the best info sites well you're basically saying this site here is too for YGO clickity click

your point has been disproven

Wiki can be edited meaning it could have been edited by the sites provided.

however this site, an entire staff dedicated to gaming news for decades of games. They make money, they're sole purpose is for guides. Are these sites so trusted that they have their own sponsors for business? No they do not.

[Aximil]

I'm not really paying attention to the argument, but the only thing that would make the Pokémon any different is what they were trained against. EVs would be the only difference if the Pokémon were exact copies, even if it's on a different game.

[Merci]

If I wanted to know about Pokemon, I'd go to www.serebii.net

My favorite website.

 

Anyway, since I'm too lazy right now to check, does this offer connectivity to Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum?

[Aximil]

If I wanted to know about Pokemon' date=' I'd go to www.serebii.net

My favorite website.

 

Anyway, since I'm too lazy right now to check, does this offer connectivity to Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum?

[/quote']

 

Yes, yes it does. And Pal Park so you can connect with the Pokémon games from the GBA.

[Clair]

Pics of research? Have you seen their forum? They are really professional about the shit they do.

 

pics of the HG guide. I want to see if it was printed by Nintendo because I bet they didn't. Prima and Bradygames are the major walkthrough companies. I doubt Pokemon is going to make one. Prima's pokemon walktrhoughs are sponsored by Pokemon USA' date=' Inc.

[/quote']

 

Prima's guides suck. :/

 

I went to get one for G/S, and the Pokedex stats were all wrong.

 

Apparently, Tyranitar has a 630 max Attack stat, Magneton is Metal-Type, and Gligar is a "terrible choice for your party". D:

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

magneton is a steel type and Gligar is a bad choice. I agree they suck but they're OFFICIAL unlike the sites provided by others

[Dark]

the underlined is wrong. Using rare candies creates lower stats than you could have gotten. Using mega exp. creates lower potential stats. My hand-raised team from fire red can beat yours easily if they're at level 100 right now. The thing people don't know is that if you were to clone two charmanders in emerald. Put one in HG and put the other in fire red. Train them against the same exact pokemon then the fire red charmander will be stronger.

No' date=' you are wrong because you have no knowledge of competitive play. All rare candies do is increase your level by one. That is it. The reason why so many people think it lowers your pokemon stats is because if you go from level 1 to 100 your missing out on 508 EVs.[/b'] That in total increases your pokemon stats by 127 points. Um, no it won't. If the pokemon have the same base stats, nature, IVs and EVs they should come out the same. Where did you even hear that?

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charmander

http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/charmander

 

Ten thousand percent the same. And I assume this is the same for every Pokemon.

 

brb taking pics to prove you wrong.

CHARMANDER DP GUIDE

CHARMANDER FR P.U.G

 

ENTEI DP

 

ENTEI FR

Um' date=' what does this prove. The one, from what I can see, uses numbers, the other uses some bars. And yea, the bar levels in the FR/LG pokedex books are different from the ones in the D/P ones. O, and the funny thing here is the difference is opposite of what you said, the D/P one is higher, stronger, then the FR one. And even with that the thing here is neither has numbers (the FR/LG and D/P guides) . Just because they scales don't show the same thing the pokemon stats could easily be the same since you have no idea what they are standing for.

 

Since your using Charmander as an example in the FR/LG dex he has 1 atk 2 speed and 2 sp atk. The D/P one has 2 for all 3. The problem is that both can be true and be using the same numbers. If, lets say a 50 is the cut off for a 2 in the D/P guide then charmander would have 2 in all those stats. If the FR and LG used 60 as the place to give 2 then he would have a 1 in atk and 2 in the other two.

[/u']

As Dark said if you move pokemon from the 3rd gen games into the 4th gen do the stats change, no. If their was any change in the pokemon stats it would be shown when the pokemon moves over from one gen to another.

 

I honsetly don't think you understand.

 

Unless those guides were published BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES (Like the HGSS guides atm)' date=' I am oblivious to anything you are saying. Smogon isn't a website filled with dumbasses; they actually do their research.

[/quote']

 

Pics or i'm calling BS

Smogon is the group the creat the very meta of pokemon. They create the Uber list all the way down to NU. These people know what they are doing.

 

And just to show you some souces.

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/004.shtml (4th gen)

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/004.shtml (3rd gen)

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charmander (4th gen)

http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/charmander (3rd gen)

 

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Charmander_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

 

Those are some of the best places to learn about pokemon and NONE of them show any base stat changes.

 

I bolded the part I'm picking at first.

1. you need an effort ribbon, there is a difference

2. I've been in competitive play since Blue came out

 

I underlined the part I'm picking at next

1. Do what I did, there's a difference.

2. they changed the stats drastically between gen. 1 & 2 Mewtwo would've made you the playground pokemon king. When Golod came out not anymore

3. Gen. 2 & 3 gen. 2 My feraligator lv. 100 had a attack stat of 287. Gen. 3 Feraligator attack- 201

Gen 3 & 4 Entei- 430 hp Gen. 4 (same exact Entei not hacked) Hp.-393

 

I have all of these on emu and I will gladly provide pics once I get a better emu because my current one changes the language of the game.

 

The italicized is what I'm picking at next.

Saying Smogon is one of the best info sites well you're basically saying this site here is too for YGO clickity click

your point has been disproven

Wiki can be edited meaning it could have been edited by the sites provided.

however this site, an entire staff dedicated to gaming news for decades of games. They make money, they're sole purpose is for guides. Are these sites so trusted that they have their own sponsors for business? No they do not.

 

1.) An effort ribbon just proves that you have exhausted all of your 510 EVs. :/

2.) I highly doubt it, because you have no knowledge of anything from my standpoint.

 

1.) And I was never talking about Gen I and II. Gen I didn't even have base stats, and all stats WERE the maximum because things likes IVs and Natures and EVs did not exist. In Gen II, IIRC, they still didn't have any of concepts. It wasn't until Gen III that they added things like IVs, EVs and Natures. So any difference between Gen II and Gen III is just because of that. Gen I has equivilant stats to Gen II, as with Gen III to Gen IV.

2.) It probably wasn't the same Feraligatr. This proves you know nothing about what an IV, EV or Nature is. If any of those are different, the final stat becomes different. When you have max on all three (or a +nature, really), you will acheive the maximum stat of that Pokemon. And that doesn't change between Gen III and Gen IV. Flame Dragon provided multiple sources to prove that.

 

Also, Entei has the same base stats between Generations. Again, if I had the time I would get a max IV, EV and +nature Entei and prove it to you as well. You are just a stubborn idiot with an opinion so grounded you fail to see what is the truth.

 

We gave you three fucking sources to prove it to you. Smogon is a professional group of people who work to figure this out. They don't dick around with this stuff, and they have gotten everything right so far. I can confirm that all of the Gen IV stats are correct, and I'm about to pop out my Sapphire and show you that their Gen III stats are also correct.

 

Serebii has been right about everything so far, too. Albeit some info on HGSS, but that was a few days after it came out. Serebii also confirms that the base stats stay the same, and therefore the maximum stats say the same.

 

And you are just another idiot who says and 'Wiki' website is bullshit and can be edited by anyone. Well newsflash, you are an idiot. I've been to Bulbapedia, Wikipedia, Yugioh Wikia multiple times, and all of their information was correct. Hell, I even compared it with other websites to confirm so. Your logic is bullshit, your argument is flawed, and I can't believe I am giving you this much importance by replying to you.

 

Just shut up and learn what the hell you are talking about. You know absolutely nothing, and we have three good sources compared to your shitty guide that wasn't even made by Nintendo. Unless the developers come out and say the base/maximum stats were different, we remain right.

 

I'm sorry Flame, but I fed the troll.

[Aximil]

magneton is a steel type and Gligar is a bad choice. I agree they suck but they're OFFICIAL unlike the sites provided by others

 

Magneton is a Steel/Electric. But it lists it as "Metal" And Gligar is a bad choice, but it's evolution, Gliscor, is a great choice.

[Dark]

magneton is a steel type and Gligar is a bad choice. I agree they suck but they're OFFICIAL unlike the sites provided by others

 

I actually thank Clair for posting that first part; TTar has a max of 630 ATK? That's hilarious, not even Deoxys-A can reach 630 ATK without the help of a Choice Band. And Deoxys-A has base 180 attack, the highest ATK bases go.

[Aximil]

The Pokémon with the highest possible max Attack stat is Deoxys-A at a whopping 504 while Tyranitar is at 403. Both of those not taking into account a Choice Band.

[Clair]

magneton is a steel type and Gligar is a bad choice. I agree they suck but they're OFFICIAL unlike the sites provided by others

 

Magneton is a Steel/Electric. But it lists it as "Metal" And Gligar is a bad choice' date=' but it's evolution, Gliscor, is a great choice.

[/quote']

 

Gligar wasn't that awful. D:

 

Apparently, from my guide:

 

Electrode has max 300 Speed Stat

Poliwag's stats are all twice the amount of Poliwhirl's.

Quagsire is AWESOME.

 

(My guess is they just hurriedly leveled up a s***load of the same Pokemon [without considering Stat XP] to Level 100 and just took the mean of all their stats. =/)

 

And Ivysaur can learn a move called "Super Powder"

 

So, I quit reading Prima.

 

I went to Serebii and saw the light. :D

[JadenxAtemYAOI]

the underlined is wrong. Using rare candies creates lower stats than you could have gotten. Using mega exp. creates lower potential stats. My hand-raised team from fire red can beat yours easily if they're at level 100 right now. The thing people don't know is that if you were to clone two charmanders in emerald. Put one in HG and put the other in fire red. Train them against the same exact pokemon then the fire red charmander will be stronger.

No' date=' you are wrong because you have no knowledge of competitive play. All rare candies do is increase your level by one. That is it. The reason why so many people think it lowers your pokemon stats is because if you go from level 1 to 100 your missing out on 508 EVs.[/b'] That in total increases your pokemon stats by 127 points. Um, no it won't. If the pokemon have the same base stats, nature, IVs and EVs they should come out the same. Where did you even hear that?

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charmander

http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/charmander

 

Ten thousand percent the same. And I assume this is the same for every Pokemon.

 

brb taking pics to prove you wrong.

CHARMANDER DP GUIDE

CHARMANDER FR P.U.G

 

ENTEI DP

 

ENTEI FR

Um' date=' what does this prove. The one, from what I can see, uses numbers, the other uses some bars. And yea, the bar levels in the FR/LG pokedex books are different from the ones in the D/P ones. O, and the funny thing here is the difference is opposite of what you said, the D/P one is higher, stronger, then the FR one. And even with that the thing here is neither has numbers (the FR/LG and D/P guides) . Just because they scales don't show the same thing the pokemon stats could easily be the same since you have no idea what they are standing for.

 

Since your using Charmander as an example in the FR/LG dex he has 1 atk 2 speed and 2 sp atk. The D/P one has 2 for all 3. The problem is that both can be true and be using the same numbers. If, lets say a 50 is the cut off for a 2 in the D/P guide then charmander would have 2 in all those stats. If the FR and LG used 60 as the place to give 2 then he would have a 1 in atk and 2 in the other two.

[/u']

As Dark said if you move pokemon from the 3rd gen games into the 4th gen do the stats change, no. If their was any change in the pokemon stats it would be shown when the pokemon moves over from one gen to another.

 

I honsetly don't think you understand.

 

Unless those guides were published BY NINTENDO THEMSELVES (Like the HGSS guides atm)' date=' I am oblivious to anything you are saying. Smogon isn't a website filled with dumbasses; they actually do their research.

[/quote']

 

Pics or i'm calling BS

Smogon is the group the creat the very meta of pokemon. They create the Uber list all the way down to NU. These people know what they are doing.

 

And just to show you some souces.

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/004.shtml (4th gen)

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/004.shtml (3rd gen)

 

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/charmander (4th gen)

http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/charmander (3rd gen)

 

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Charmander_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

 

Those are some of the best places to learn about pokemon and NONE of them show any base stat changes.

 

I bolded the part I'm picking at first.

1. you need an effort ribbon, there is a difference

2. I've been in competitive play since Blue came out

 

I underlined the part I'm picking at next

1. Do what I did, there's a difference.

2. they changed the stats drastically between gen. 1 & 2 Mewtwo would've made you the playground pokemon king. When Golod came out not anymore

3. Gen. 2 & 3 gen. 2 My feraligator lv. 100 had a attack stat of 287. Gen. 3 Feraligator attack- 201

Gen 3 & 4 Entei- 430 hp Gen. 4 (same exact Entei not hacked) Hp.-393

 

I have all of these on emu and I will gladly provide pics once I get a better emu because my current one changes the language of the game.

 

The italicized is what I'm picking at next.

Saying Smogon is one of the best info sites well you're basically saying this site here is too for YGO clickity click

your point has been disproven

Wiki can be edited meaning it could have been edited by the sites provided.

however this site, an entire staff dedicated to gaming news for decades of games. They make money, they're sole purpose is for guides. Are these sites so trusted that they have their own sponsors for business? No they do not.

 

1.) An effort ribbon just proves that you have exhausted all of your 510 EVs. :/

2.) I highly doubt it, because you have no knowledge of anything from my standpoint.

 

1.) And I was never talking about Gen I and II. Gen I didn't even have base stats, and all stats WERE the maximum because things likes IVs and Natures and EVs did not exist. In Gen II, IIRC, they still didn't have any of concepts. It wasn't until Gen III that they added things like IVs, EVs and Natures. So any difference between Gen II and Gen III is just because of that. Gen I has equivilant stats to Gen II, as with Gen III to Gen IV.

2.) It probably wasn't the same Feraligatr. This proves you know nothing about what an IV, EV or Nature is. If any of those are different, the final stat becomes different. When you have max on all three (or a +nature, really), you will acheive the maximum stat of that Pokemon. And that doesn't change between Gen III and Gen IV. Flame Dragon provided multiple sources to prove that.

 

Also, Entei has the same base stats between Generations. Again, if I had the time I would get a max IV, EV and +nature Entei and prove it to you as well. You are just a stubborn idiot with an opinion so grounded you fail to see what is the truth.

 

We gave you three fucking sources to prove it to you. Smogon is a professional group of people who work to figure this out. They don't dick around with this stuff, and they have gotten everything right so far. I can confirm that all of the Gen IV stats are correct, and I'm about to pop out my Sapphire and show you that their Gen III stats are also correct.

 

Serebii has been right about everything so far, too. Albeit some info on HGSS, but that was a few days after it came out. Serebii also confirms that the base stats stay the same, and therefore the maximum stats say the same.

 

And you are just another idiot who says and 'Wiki' website is bullshit and can be edited by anyone. Well newsflash, you are an idiot. I've been to Bulbapedia, Wikipedia, Yugioh Wikia multiple times, and all of their information was correct. Hell, I even compared it with other websites to confirm so. Your logic is bullshit, your argument is flawed, and I can't believe I am giving you this much importance by replying to you.

 

Just shut up and learn what the hell you are talking about. You know absolutely nothing, and we have three good sources compared to your shitty guide that wasn't even made by Nintendo. Unless the developers come out and say the base/maximum stats were different, we remain right.

 

I'm sorry Flame, but I fed the troll.

 

3 unofficial sites. Prima = Official. Meaning recognized by the company or they wouldn't be able to print anything on the game.

Does bulbapedia mention Seviper being said to be part of the arbok evolutionary sequence. No it does not. Bulbapedia is flawed therefore incorrect and incomplete. Find an OFFICIAL site that is recognized by the POKEMON COMPANY and not recognized by MEMBERS

Members's opinions /=/ valid proof

Official site recognized by pokemon company = valid

 

OPINION IS NOT FACT

 

Go get a dictionary and look up dictionary and got get a dictionary and look up Opinion and look up fact

[Aximil]

magneton is a steel type and Gligar is a bad choice. I agree they suck but they're OFFICIAL unlike the sites provided by others

 

Magneton is a Steel/Electric. But it lists it as "Metal" And Gligar is a bad choice' date=' but it's evolution, Gliscor, is a great choice.

[/quote']

 

Gligar wasn't that awful. D:

 

Apparently, from my guide:

 

Electrode has max 300 Speed Stat

Poliwag's stats are all twice the amount of Poliwhirl's.

Quagsire is AWESOME.

 

(My guess is they just hurriedly leveled up a s***load of the same Pokemon [without considering Stat Points] to Level 100 and just took the mean of all their stats. =/)

 

And Ivysaur can learn a move called "Super Powder"

 

So, I quit reading Prima.

 

I went to Serebii and saw the light. :D

 

Gliscor makes Gligar look awful though.

Electrode's max Speed is 416.

lol, no.

And Quagsire is a pretty good choice for a playthrough since it's only weak to Grass (I think.) and is pretty sturdy.

Also, no such move.

 

Does bulbapedia mention Seviper being said to be part of the arbok evolutionary sequence. No it does not.

 

That's because they're not part of eachother's evolutionary sequence.

[Clair]

3 unofficial sites. Prima = Official. Meaning recognized by the company or they wouldn't be able to print anything on the game.

Does bulbapedia mention Seviper being said to be part of the arbok evolutionary sequence. No it does not. Bulbapedia is flawed therefore incorrect and incomplete. Find an OFFICIAL site that is recognized by the POKEMON COMPANY and not recognized by MEMBERS

Members's opinions /=/ valid proof

Official site recognized by pokemon company = valid

 

OPINION IS NOT FACT

 

Go get a dictionary and look up dictionary and got get a dictionary and look up Opinion and look up fact

 

In my opinion' date=' the players know more about the game than the big companies do.

 

Also, the bolded part.

 

I don't get it.

 

Go to the dictionary and look up 'losing'.

 

Gliscor makes Gligar look awful though.

Electrode's max Speed is 416.

lol, no.

And Quagsire is a pretty good choice for a playthrough since it's only weak to Grass (I think.) and is pretty sturdy.

Also, no such move.

 

This is true.

 

But I was talking about their Gen. II guide. ^^

[Dark]

I love how you ignore all of the blatantly obvious bullshit your Prima guides are giving us.

 

Also, Does bulbapedia mention Seviper being said to be part of the arbok evolutionary sequence.

 

IT'S NOT PART OF THE ARBOK EVOLUTIONARY LINE. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN TAKE AN EKANS OR AN ARBOK AND MAKE IT INTO A SEVIPER. But I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia says something about them being really similar.

[Aximil]

I love how you ignore all of the blatantly obvious bullshit your Prima guides are giving us.

 

Also' date=' [i']Does bulbapedia mention Seviper being said to be part of the arbok evolutionary sequence[/i].

 

IT'S NOT PART OF THE ARBOK EVOLUTIONARY LINE. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN TAKE AN EKANS OR AN ARBOK AND MAKE IT INTO A SEVIPER. But I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia says something about them being really similar.

 

I already said that, except nicely.

 

Also, JadenxAtemYAOI, random peoples cannot edit Bulbapedia. Only the peoples that run it. The ability for non-incharge members to edit it has been disabled since March 14th.