Bunter Dwayne Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Over in the Deck section, there was an argument over which of the stated cards is better: Magical Marionette or Dark Red Enchanter?I say DRE, but Mark of the Black Rose says MM. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalflygon08 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I lie enchanter, he has that discard effect, but then again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I have actually had them both on the field from time to time. and Marionette always seems to do more work. he opens the way to attack.he has enough attack to make it hurt after his effect.level 5 means he is a bit easier (but not that much.) to summon.he can keep using his effect, unlike red, who only gets it once a turn.but:he doesn't start with any countershe only gets 200 ATK per counter. red is not useless in comparison, but he just doesn't get the results that marionette does. he looks better on paper, but in action, he falls short in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff! Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well now. DRE:Starts with 2300.Can discard cards.More ATK per counter, thus can end up a massive beater.LV6, so he can tune with LV2's for LV8's.BUT:Only gets counters when Normal Summoned and through spells.Effect is only once per turn. MM:Can activate his effect multiple times per turn.Field Monster gone > Hand card gone.Starts at 2000 no matter what.Good target for Circle.Good with LV2 and LV3 tuners, for LV7s (Arcanite) and LV8s (SDD)BUT:Only gets 200 per counter.Only gets counters through spells. I reckon Marionette is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I like and run both in my spellcaster deck. although DRE is LOL against Dark World decks.....I perfer Marionette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Marionette was a 3 cards OTK.Enchanter is good for hand Control.Each one is good in a way. Marionette is sighly better.and Both works Great togheter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunter Dwayne Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Fair enough. I reckon that if you freak up your opponent's hand, then they have less chance of making a comeback than freaking up the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 They are equal. Both are used for different situations, but work in the same Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 MM clinches this...only just though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Everyone loves Magical Trevor, cause the tricks that he does are so very clever! MM obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunter Dwayne Posted May 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Both together = RAPAGE. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Over in the Deck section' date=' there was an argument over which of the stated cards is better: Magical Marionette or Dark Red Enchanter?I say [b']DRE[/b], but Mark of the Black Rose says MM. What do you think? WEST SIDE! No, seriously. Marironette. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunter Dwayne Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Marionette, eh? I just think, that there's quite a bit of field removal in the general Spell Counter Deck, but not really enough hand removal. So, in the only Decks you can really put DRE and MM in need DRE more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Is it just me, or did YCM start to suck a lot more with my absence? Enchanter will always be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Not really. 1. Enchanter is 1 per turn.2. Enchanter becomes uber weak if it's effect is used or it is special summoned.3. It just hasn't playtested as good as marionette for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Field control is better than hand control imo, Drak Red is not bad, but MM is more useful. Pretty much the same thing I said over in Your Deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunter Dwayne Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I stand by my argument: DRE should be used over MM, because there are open spots for hand control in Spell Counter Decks, which already have a lot of monster removal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I stand by my argument: DRE should be used over MM' date=' because there are open spots for hand control in Spell Counter Decks, which already have a lot of monster removal.[/quote'] my build focused on grave and fleld control, but if you must run DRE find room for MM as well, he's a pretty cool dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeg Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Is it just me' date=' or did YCM start to suck a lot more with my absence? Enchanter will always be better.[/quote'] No, a few people left, and more people came, with less skill, a crap less skill.The tcg section was devostating for about 2 months, I cried everytime I saw it. Dark Red Enchanter, next time if you want to get good results from something like this, post it on a forum which has pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Is it just me' date=' or did YCM start to suck a lot more with my absence? Enchanter will always be better.[/quote'] No, a few people left, and more people came, with less skill, a crap less skill.The tcg section was devostating for about 2 months, I cried everytime I saw it. Dark Red Enchanter, next time if you want to get good results from something like this, post it on a forum which has pros. I think it's time for me to organize another team. = = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Lol, DRE and M&M On-topic: It depends what kind of deck you run. If you can get the counters quickly on it, Marionette. If you're just trying to go for a 1700 attack dark Thestalos, stick with Dr. Dre. While it may be more difficult to get Marionette's to be exceedingly broken, clearly destroying their field is a much better effect then destroying their hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Lol' date=' [b']DRE and M&M[/b] On-topic: It depends what kind of deck you run. If you can get the counters quickly on it, Marionette. If you're just trying to go for a 1700 attack dark Thestalos, stick with Dr. Dre. While it may be more difficult to get Marionette's to be exceedingly broken, clearly destroying their field is a much better effect then destroying their hand. i lol'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Dark Red Enchanter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Dark red is just plain out harder to make work. the fact he has to be tribute summoned to get his starting counters makes him weak on the ATK, he can only do his effect once per turn regardless of how many spell counters he has on him, and if special summoned, he only has 1700 ATK. however, in the spellcaster / spell counter lineup, he is one of the few who hit the hand. in the end, that makes him a valuable addition. I still like MM more myself, but that is more so for personal reasons. (he won me tons of games back in the old days.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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