EHERO Andrew Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 FusionsElemental Hero Magma NeosElemental Hero Marine Neos x3Elemental Hero Grand Neos x3Elemental Hero Air NeosElemental Hero Glow NeosElemental Hero Dark Neos x2Elemental Hero Flare Neos x2Elemental Hero Aqua Neos x3 MonstersElemental Hero Neos x3Elemental Hero Neos Alius x3Neo Space Pathfinder x3Elemental Hero StratosKing of the Swamp x2The Earth- Hex Sealed Fusion x2The Light- Hex Sealed FusionMobius The Frost MonarchThestalos The Firestorm MonarchZaborg The Thunder MonarchGranmarg The Rock MonarchTreeborn Frog SpellsAncient Rules x3Fake Hero x3Neo SpaceE-Emergency Call x2R-Righteous Justice x3O-Oversoul x2Pot of Avarice TrapsRoyal Decree x2Mirror ForceSakuretsu Armor x2Ultimate OfferingDivine Wrath It's not the best deck, but it's really good. I say it's better than the regular E-Hero deck. It's Fast, Powerful and w/ the 'King of the Swamp' and 'Hex Sealed Fusion' monsters, I can bring out any Neos Fusion I want. So it's really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 nya...don't do neo decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 funny, i dueled this guy who told me that 'neos sucks' and all that and guess what happened... I...Kick...His...Anti-Neos...Ass! "don't use neos decks" bah! Neos is getting closer to becoming a competitive deck. with the cards above, it's the best deck i ever made. and using 'king of the swamp' and 'hex fusion' monsters to substitute as any neo-spacian i choose is a genius combo. i can do it as many times as i want. When i get Ranbow Neos, I will be unstoppable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 ha...no...you cant use swamp and hex.....read their effects.....and also....no neos sucks.....no matter what you say..... example: use a hex you MUST have e hero neos or e hero neo elius (he has to be normal summoned again) to make a neos fusion same with king of the swamp cause their effects say the other fusion monster MUST be the correct one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted October 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 How can you not use kots or hex sealed? if i special summon neos and normal summon kots or hex sealed i can substitute it with grand mole or marine dolphin or air hummingbird or any other neo-spacian i want and it's effect doesn't say it can be used for contact fusion or that it must be only used w/ polymerization. contact fusion is exactly the same thing as Fusion summon. you just don't use polymerization. Contact Fusion is just another Fusion summon. All i have to do is send Neos and kots/hex sealed to the deck and choose the fusion monster. no matter what fusion monster i bring out, that kots/ hex sealed will play as a neo-spacian. Just admit that I found a new way to bring out Neos Fusions faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoolMeNever Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I'll ask the judge at my local tourny to end this. I'll post the reply soon enough. Andrew may be right. He may not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 How can you not use kots or hex sealed? if i special summon neos and normal summon kots or hex sealed i can substitute it with grand mole or marine dolphin or air hummingbird or any other neo-spacian i want and it's effect doesn't say it can be used for contact fusion or that it must be only used w/ polymerization. contact fusion is exactly the same thing as Fusion summon. you just don't use polymerization. Contact Fusion is just another Fusion summon. All i have to do is send Neos and kots/hex sealed to the deck and choose the fusion monster. no matter what fusion monster i bring out' date=' that kots/ hex sealed will play as a neo-spacian. Just admit that I found a new way to bring out Neos Fusions faster.[/quote'] you CANT use king of the swamp and a hex for the same fusion monster! it clearly says in ther effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I'll ask the judge at my local tourny to end this. I'll post the reply soon enough. Andrew may be right. He may not. Lol. From A lv 1 UDE judge. An official "you may not activate it, because it Designates INCORRECT fusion material targets" Happy now? can't do it. your welcome jayden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 What do you mean incorrect? YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE FOR ANY FUSION MATERIAL MONSTER!!!!! EX: I use Ancient Rules to special summon Neos and then I normal summon king of the swamp. king of the swamp substitutes as Neo-Spacian Marine Dolphin. I can fuse Neos and "Marine Dolphin" to become Marine Neos. Think outside the box! Where does it say that I cant use king of the swamp or hex sealed fusion to contact fuse with neos. King of the swamp: You can substitute this card as any 1 Fusion-Material monster. The Fusion-Material monster must be the correct ones (in my case, any 1 neo-spacian is the correct one). You can discard this card from your hand to add 1 "ploymerization" from your deck to your hand.Same with 1st effect with Hex-Sealed Fusion monsters only you Tribute that card and another Fusion-Material Monster to Fusion Summon a Fusion Monster depending on the hex-sealed fusion monster's attribute. IT DOES NOT SAY "NO CONTACT FUSION" I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Im aggreeing with ka on this but we will get sart here soon and he will clear this up -.- cant beleave i said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 What do you mean incorrect? YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE FOR ANY FUSION MATERIAL MONSTER!!!!! EX: I use Ancient Rules to special summon Neos and then I normal summon king of the swamp. king of the swamp substitutes as Neo-Spacian Marine Dolphin. I can fuse Neos and "Marine Dolphin" to become Marine Neos. Think outside the box! Where does it say that I cant use king of the swamp or hex sealed fusion to contact fuse with neos. King of the swamp: You can substitute this card as any 1 Fusion-Material monster. The Fusion-Material monster must be the correct ones (in my case' date=' any 1 neo-spacian is the correct one). You can discard this card from your hand to add 1 "ploymerization" from your deck to your hand.Same with 1st effect with Hex-Sealed Fusion monsters only you Tribute that card and another Fusion-Material Monster to Fusion Summon a Fusion Monster depending on the hex-sealed fusion monster's attribute. IT DOES NOT SAY "NO CONTACT FUSION" I rest my case.[/quote'] did you read my post at all? no you didnt i said basically what you just said......i said you cannot use a hex sealed fusion with king of the swamp to make a fusion monster...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 oh yeah, then how come you can use ploymerization and use king of the swamp and another Fusion-Material monster to make a fusion monster? I see no difference with contact fusion. contact fusion is no different than ploymerization fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibdo Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 The Neos fusions contain this text: This card can only be Special Summoned from your Fusion Deck by returning the above cards from your side of the field to the Deck. King of the Swamp is not one of those cards so cannot be used to Fusion summon them. King of the Swamp only works on Fusion monsters that do NOT hold any specific texts that says you MUST use the above Fusion Material Monsters. The Hex Sealed Fusion is similar, but can work with cards such as: Cyber Twin DragonFusion / Effect MonsterLIGHT / Machine / 8 StarsATK: 2800 DEF: 2100"Cyber Dragon" + "Cyber Dragon"A Fusion Summon of this card can only be conducted with the above Fusion Material Monsters. This card can attack twice during the same Battle Phase. So, you can't use King of the Swamp to Fusion summon this card, however it CAN be summoned with Hex, because the Hex's summon isn't considered a Fusion Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 What do you mean incorrect? YOU CAN SUBSTITUTE FOR ANY FUSION MATERIAL MONSTER!!!!! EX: I use Ancient Rules to special summon Neos and then I normal summon king of the swamp. king of the swamp substitutes as Neo-Spacian Marine Dolphin. I can fuse Neos and "Marine Dolphin" to become Marine Neos. Think outside the box! Where does it say that I cant use king of the swamp or hex sealed fusion to contact fuse with neos. King of the swamp: You can substitute this card as any 1 Fusion-Material monster. The Fusion-Material monster must be the correct ones (in my case' date=' any 1 neo-spacian is the correct one). You can discard this card from your hand to add 1 "ploymerization" from your deck to your hand.Same with 1st effect with Hex-Sealed Fusion monsters only you Tribute that card and another Fusion-Material Monster to Fusion Summon a Fusion Monster depending on the hex-sealed fusion monster's attribute. IT DOES NOT SAY "NO CONTACT FUSION" I rest my case.[/quote'] DUDE!! contact fusion =/= normal fusion!! in contact fusion the fusion material has to be the indicated on the card... no fusion replacement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHERO Andrew Posted October 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 fine. you win. can you use kots/hsf w/ regular e-hero fusions? like using kots/hsf to replace flame wingman and fuse with sparkman to create shining flare wingman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkguy00000 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 ^^^ Oh yes, that's the basis of any even marginally playable E-Hero deck. Use it and Wildheart to pull a big bad and burly Beserk-Dragon-esque effect monster with attack to match (Wildedge). And then, you Normal Summon something like another Wildheart, and attack. It's a genius plan in theory but it doesn't work consistantly, else E-Heroes would be Top-8ing SJC. But... I DON'T know if Hex-Sealed works, because they MUST be summoned by Fusion Summon. I think you can use it's substitution effect, not it's Polymerization-esque effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibdo Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Just read the card lore carefully. I'll post up what makes them useable: This monster cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon. - This means you CAN use subsitutes, so long as the Special Summon IS a Fusion Summon. KOTS will work, Hex will not. This applies to ALL E Hero fusions, but NOT Neos Fusions because their lore says: This card can only be Special Summoned from your Fusion Deck by returning the above cards from your side of the field to the Deck. It specifically states that you must use the right monsters. And there is also one more: A Fusion Summon of this card can only be conducted with the above Fusion Material Monsters. This means that if you're doing a Fusion Summon of this monster you CAN'T use subsitutes, so no KOTS. BUT, you can use Hex, because Hex isn't considered a Fusion Summon. Edit: I forgot to mention, when I say Hex doesn't work, I mean his effect when you tribute him and the Fusion Material monsters to special summon a Fusion Monster, not his ability to act as a substitute :P Does that make it any clearer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragelfragel Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragelfragel Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 sorry i mean that deck is cool neos is awosome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragelfragel Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 is anyone online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragelfragel Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 uh i got a bunch of neos cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragelfragel Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 uh i got a bunch of neos cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibdo Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Why have you posted 5 times in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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