fleeordie Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 Required cards: scapegoat, subsitoad, des croaking Opponent turn: play scapegoat during end phase Your turn: 1)Summon subsitoad 2)tribute 3 tokens for 3 des frogs3)play des croaking4)tribute last token and subsitoad for submarine frog / beelze frog.5)all attack for OTK Requires a limited card, but subsitoad can mill your deck very fast, and other cards can be used to replace scapegoat (though it uses more cards), like fires of doomsday, fiend santuary, or you can just use cards like inferno reckless summon to fill your field up. Best subsitution for scapegoat is probably this: inferno reckless summon+ wetlands. Have a monster on your field at the start of your turn, summon subsitoad, tribute the monster for a frog less then 1500 attack, activate inferno reckless summon, tribute the 3 frogs for 3 des frogs, use des croaking, tribute subsitoad for submarine/beelze frog, activate wetlands, attack for OTK. 4 card combo. Total damage: 8100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 It's good.But still, the fact that it uses a limited card is just sad.We want to solve that, don't we? If we make another variation that doesn't use limited cards, we'll have a higher chance of pulling it off, and we can still include this variation in the deck. RequirementsSubstitoadAnother monsterDes Croaking2x Inferno Reckless Summon How to PerformSummon SubstitoadTribute the other monster to summon any Frog with 1500- ATK (that isn't limited) and activate Inferno Reckless SummonTribute 1 of the summoned Frogs for Beelze Frog/Submarine Frog and activate Inferno Reckless Summon; due to field space, you'll have 2 of those, but that's exactly enoughTribute the remaining 2 random Frogs for 2 Des FrogsTribute Substitoad for the 3rd Des FrogActivate Des Croaking and attack for game The problem is that it requires 1 more card and that you need a monster to survive for 1 turn, but the more variants, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 ^ A 5 card combo? I guess... we could just play exodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 ^ A 5 card combo? I guess... we could just play exodia. The point of that one was to avoid using a limited card, but Exodia contains limited cards ONLY.This combo contains 4 cards and 1 card that can really be ANY card as long as it's a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted March 31, 2009 Report Share Posted March 31, 2009 ^ A 5 card combo? I guess... we could just play exodia. The point of that one was to avoid using a limited card' date=' but Exodia contains limited cards ONLY.This combo contains 4 cards and 1 card that can really be ANY card as long as it's a monster.[/quote'] Im not arguing or disagreeing to that fact, all im saying is (1+1+1+2) = (1+1+1+1+1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeordie Posted April 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 You can relpace the second inferno reckless summon with a wetlands/terraforming. That greatly increases the chance of drawing what you need. Also, if the facedown monster you have is dandylion, you do not need IRS.(asumming you use wetlands here.) 1) summon subsitoad.2) tribute dandylion for des frog3) tribute other 2 tokens for des frong4) use croaking5) tribute subsitoad for submarine/beelze frog6) activate wetlands7) attack for game. Cards needed: dandylion+wetlands+subsitoad+des croaking. 4 card combo. Yes, dandylion is limited too, but the overall number of way a frog deck can pull an OTK is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 ok.someone needs to help me here.how do you A. tribute a scapegoat for a tribute summon, and B. how do you tribute summon 3 times in one turn? furthermore, if im not missing something and this really is horribly illegal and stupid, why has no one else in the topic noticed that? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeordie Posted April 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 cuz of this Opponent turn: play scapegoat during end phase and thisSubstitoadAttrib: WaterType: Aqua/EffectLevel:1Atk: 100Def: 2000You can Tribute 1 monster to Special Summon 1 "Frog" monster from your deck' date=' except "Frog the Jam". "Frog" monsters, except "Frog the Jam", cannot be destroyed by battle.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 You can relpace the second inferno reckless summon with a wetlands/terraforming. That greatly increases the chance of drawing what you need. Also' date=' if the facedown monster you have is dandylion, you do not need IRS.(asumming you use wetlands here.) 1) summon subsitoad.2) tribute dandylion for des frog3) tribute other 2 tokens for des frong4) use croaking5) tribute subsitoad for submarine/beelze frog6) activate wetlands7) attack for game. Cards needed: dandylion+wetlands+subsitoad+des croaking. 4 card combo. Yes, dandylion is limited too, but the overall number of way a frog deck can pull an OTK is amazing.[/quote'] Nice. And Dandylion might be limited, but it's still a nice replacement for Scapegoat. Just do note that you need Submarine Frog per se in this combo, since Swampy Grasslands doesn't affect Beelze Frog. ok.someone needs to help me here.how do you A. tribute a scapegoat for a tribute summon' date=' and B. how do you tribute summon 3 times in one turn? furthermore, if im not missing something and this really is horribly illegal and stupid, why has no one else in the topic noticed that? ...[/quote'] Someone needs to read cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeordie Posted April 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 oh lol, just realised beelze is level 3, so no wetlands lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 someone needs to be more specific when speaking.tributing for a level 5, to me, implies tribute summoning.im sorry i dont know the useless archetype of frogs front and back. /end sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeordie Posted April 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 so the reason for your misunderstanding is based on me not clarifying your deficient knowledge on frogs? Oh btw tronta you sound familiar. Rakion.org? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 someone needs to be more specific when speaking.tributing for a level 5' date=' to me, implies tribute summoning.im sorry i dont know the useless archetype of frogs front and back. /end sarcasm.[/quote'] On the internet, you know everything.Not knowing something is not an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 rorg indeed, to which troll do i have the pleasure of speaking?and yes, you do have to clarify, because frogs are a silly archetype. i dont expect you know the eccentricities of arcana force. but exiro has me there, i should know everything.but eh, thats why i asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaradon Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Tronta 800 posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 rofl.yay~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeordie Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 this one: http://www.rakion.org/forums/member.php?action=profile&uid=12297 But I wouldn't agree that I am a troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 hi flee.everyones a troll.everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13s unlucky 1 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Wow this is probably the most secure OTK i have seen in a while even though it can tajke a few monsters. Plus Dupe Frog can count for Des frogs if you cant summon them by whatever effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 rorg indeed' date=' to which troll do i have the pleasure of speaking?and yes, you do have to clarify, because frogs are a silly archetype. i dont expect you know the eccentricities of arcana force. but exiro has me there, i should know everything.but eh, thats why i asked.[/quote'] When in doubt, Google! =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tronta Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 or in this case, wiki? technically, this is a 2turn otk, you still need your opponents end phase :Pand gardna in the grave blocks this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daytimefrogger Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 i <3 frogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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