Toxic-skull Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Are you serious? Without criticism' date=' how in the world do you propose to improve?[/quote'] The above is true. Without criticism you cannot improve but on the other hand you tend to not give constructive criticism. you are a lot like the people who say that something is bad without explaining as to why. If you were to give a more positive criticism instead of the constant negative criticism, I think people wouldn't have as much of a problem.ok... i will at least agree with that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 The dark eruptionOnce thought corruptionHas unfolded to more it seems Who I once thought a mad manWas really a rad manNow myself' date=' I must be redeemed A false accusationLed to newfound admirationA logic unflawed and lacking a scheme.[/quote'] Nice! I like the thought that went into this! @ Heck, everyone: Let's try to refrain from any more arguing. With poetry, you need to be able to take criticism. On the other hand, you should also try to make comments that are as useful to the author as possible. Supreme Gamesmaster, I have gotten some complaints about the quality of your comments. I would appreciate it if you be a bit more helpful with your comments. People are finding them a tad harsh.People write poetry in their own way. There is no rule for poetry written in stone. It is up to the poet how to write, just as it is the sculptor's choice how to sculpt. You may not like Midnightwolf's poems, as might others, but I know some people might not like your poems or mine. We all have opinions. No one's opinion is 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckmasta2020 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 The dark eruptionOnce thought corruptionHas unfolded to more it seems Who I once thought a mad manWas really a rad manNow myself' date=' I must be redeemed A false accusationLed to newfound admirationA logic unflawed and lacking a scheme.[/quote'] I really like the undertone of dark to light in this. I can't wait to read your next poem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrise Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 <.< >.>I love seeing arguments :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Child Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Lady LadyLady, oh ladyShe walks all dayAnd helps the less fortunate happilySometimes she rests by the bayShe feeds crumbs to the birds then heads on her merry wayShe sees all the children playAnd volunteers at the nursery weeklyLady, oh lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Lady LadyLady' date=' oh ladyShe walks all dayAnd helps the less fortunate happilySometimes she rests by the bayShe feeds crumbs to the birds then heads on her merry wayShe sees all the children playAnd volunteers at the nursery weeklyLady, oh lady[/quote'] Cute poem. ^_^She sounds nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid. Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 [spoiler=Dreams]I once had dreamsBeautiful dreamsPleasant onesLike cake with no creamDreams of deathCrying and despairDreams of thoughtThoughts that flew out of air.Bountiful dreamsFields of rosesGrass and leavesBushes and treesAll in a midsummer nights breeze. Dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckmasta2020 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 [spoiler=Dreams]I once had dreamsBeautiful dreamsPleasant onesLike cake with no creamDreams of deathCrying and despairDreams of thoughtThoughts that flew out of air.Bountiful dreamsFields of rosesGrass and leavesBushes and treesAll in a midsummer nights breeze. Dreams. Well done. I could easily imagine what you are saying in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid. Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 [spoiler=Beauty]True beautyEssence of liesWhat made herInnaceptable criesYeah shes cuteA jabroni tooWhen she criesThe rain falls from a broken sky. She can be kindShe can be madShe can be happy when she lies. She doesnt know me, I dont know her, But we'll know each other,When i find her.She has true beauty. True beauty of the best kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Gamesmaster Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 The dark eruptionOnce thought corruptionHas unfolded to more it seems Who I once thought a mad manWas really a rad manNow myself' date=' I must be redeemed A false accusationLed to newfound admirationA logic unflawed and lacking a scheme.[/quote']This could work very well with six amphibrachs and an iamb per; the second stanza is by far the best musically. Don't use the last one."unflawed and" can be changed to "that's" or "true" or something along those lines; unflawed isn't a word, and you'll repair the meter.The poem sounds a bit like the reminiscence of some of the USA's post-WWII White southerners, especially the first stanza. Nice! I like the thought that went into this! @Supreme Gamesmaster, I have gotten some complaints about the quality of your comments. I would appreciate it if you be a bit more helpful with your comments. People are finding them a tad harsh. Their problem, really. I'm a pessimist, cynic, et cetera in everything I do; oddly enough, I have yet to find a critique on one of my own works more harsh than the one I give it prior to publishing. I'm not about to change my personality to fit the needs of others. Finding what's wrong is what I do, and the message — 'you've screwed this up' — remains the same no matter how it is said.People write poetry in their own way. There is no rule for poetry written in stone. It is up to the poet how to write, just as it is the sculptor's choice how to sculpt. Not quite. Literary artists are expected to conform to a set of linguistic conventions; sculptors have literally no parameters. You may not like Midnightwolf's poems, as might others, but I know some people might not like your poems or mine. We all have opinions. No one's opinion is 100% correct. I'd be hard pressed to find one educated reader who could concentrate on a piece with poor conventions, mon ami(e)... The necessity of linguistic perfection must come before even the substance of literary arts, as conformity to the tongue is indeed in the very definition of the term "literature." 'Tis factual, not opinionated. The rest... well, that is opinion, and so must be taken as it is stated and tweaked by the author to achieve the desired effect.<.< >.>I love seeing arguments :?A bit late for this spam, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Child Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Introducing my best poem ever!!!!!!!! [spoiler=My best work] My HomeNow is rainBut I feel no painThe clouds are my roofAnd they're lightning proof With my roof overheadI lie on the groundThe grass is my bedAnd i'm eternally boundWet is my headWill I ever be found?Or am I dead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid. Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I like it.Good job. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Child Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 thank very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckmasta2020 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Introducing my best poem ever!!!!!!!! [spoiler=My best work] My HomeNow is rainBut I feel no painThe clouds are my roofAnd they're lightning proof With my roof overheadI lie on the groundThe grass is my bedAnd i'm eternally boundWet is my headWill I ever be found?Or am I dead? it's soothing to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Gamesmaster Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 1. The second stanza is waaaay too angsty.2. Fourth line, second stanza destroys your iamb-anapest sequences.3. Decide whether you want iamb-anapest sequences, double-anapest sequences, or some regular alternation between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Child Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 1. The second stanza is waaaay too angsty.2. Fourth line' date=' second stanza destroys your iamb-anapest sequences.3. Decide whether you want iamb-anapest sequences, double-anapest sequences, or some regular alternation between the two.[/quote']those are some fancy words and i have no clue what they mean. the only line that threw off the poem was 1 stanza 4 line. and that's because it doesn't have the same rythm (tell me if it's spelled wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Gamesmaster Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Iamb: Short-long.Anapest: Short-short-long. You did; it's "rhythm". Second stanza, fourth line, is two iambs and an anapest; it's too long to be viable. Using two metrical feet per line should work fairly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Child Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 what!!?? you could just say that you dont like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Gamesmaster Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 How would that help anything? A critique must improve the critiqued work. For the record, Wikipedia is your friend. They have great articles on the metrical feet, and on poetic form in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 For the record' date=' Wikipedia is your friend. They have great articles on the metrical feet, and on poetic form in general.[/quote'] Very true. If you have any questions, Google it. Google doesn't get impatient. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckmasta2020 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Hey guys I haven't posted a poem in a while so here are two more[spoiler=Corruption]Lost withinLost withoutCan't go onWithout a doubt Life will endWhere life beginsCruel minds will riseSpreading their sins Wars will rageLoved ones will dieSadness will reignAs time goes by [spoiler=Happiness]Happiness is a field awayShining bright like yesterdayWith green grass and smiling flowersA second turns to hoursAs time passes byFloating away like a butterfly Happiness is a creek awayShining bright like yesterdayWith a gentle breezeAnd fish that like to teaseAlong the moving creekYou'll find what you seek Happiness is a hill awayShining bright like yesterdayThough the hill may be hard to climbYou'll know, when two souls rhymeWhen you reach the top and have wonYou'll realize two can make one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Hey guys I haven't posted a poem in a while so here are two more[spoiler=Corruption]Lost withinLost withoutCan't go onWithout a doubt Life will endWhere life beginsCruel minds will riseSpreading their sins Wars will rageLoved ones will dieSadness will reignAs time goes by [spoiler=Happiness]Happiness is a field awayShining bright like yesterdayWith green grass and smiling flowersA second turns to hoursAs time passes byFloating away like a butterfly Happiness is a creek awayShining bright like yesterdayWith a gentle breezeAnd fish that like to teaseAlong the moving creekYou'll find what you seek Happiness is a hill awayShining bright like yesterdayThough the hill may be hard to climbYou'll know' date=' when two souls rhymeWhen you reach the top and have wonYou'll realize two can make one [/quote'] Both poems seem to be in the same kind of rhythm and seem to be the exact opposite of each other. Was this on purpose? They are good, although you have done better. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckmasta2020 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Hey guys I haven't posted a poem in a while so here are two more[spoiler=Corruption]Lost withinLost withoutCan't go onWithout a doubt Life will endWhere life beginsCruel minds will riseSpreading their sins Wars will rageLoved ones will dieSadness will reignAs time goes by [spoiler=Happiness]Happiness is a field awayShining bright like yesterdayWith green grass and smiling flowersA second turns to hoursAs time passes byFloating away like a butterfly Happiness is a creek awayShining bright like yesterdayWith a gentle breezeAnd fish that like to teaseAlong the moving creekYou'll find what you seek Happiness is a hill awayShining bright like yesterdayThough the hill may be hard to climbYou'll know' date=' when two souls rhymeWhen you reach the top and have wonYou'll realize two can make one [/quote'] Both poems seem to be in the same kind of rhythm and seem to be the exact opposite of each other. Was this on purpose? They are good, although you have done better. ^_^ It actually was an accident when i wrote them in contrast I had just written corruption when my friend was dumped by her boyfriend. I wrote happiness in an attempt to cheer her up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raelen Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Hey guys I haven't posted a poem in a while so here are two more[spoiler=Corruption]Lost withinLost withoutCan't go onWithout a doubt Life will endWhere life beginsCruel minds will riseSpreading their sins Wars will rageLoved ones will dieSadness will reignAs time goes by [spoiler=Happiness]Happiness is a field awayShining bright like yesterdayWith green grass and smiling flowersA second turns to hoursAs time passes byFloating away like a butterfly Happiness is a creek awayShining bright like yesterdayWith a gentle breezeAnd fish that like to teaseAlong the moving creekYou'll find what you seek Happiness is a hill awayShining bright like yesterdayThough the hill may be hard to climbYou'll know' date=' when two souls rhymeWhen you reach the top and have wonYou'll realize two can make one [/quote'] Both poems seem to be in the same kind of rhythm and seem to be the exact opposite of each other. Was this on purpose? They are good, although you have done better. ^_^ It actually was an accident when i wrote them in contrast I had just written corruption when my friend was dumped by her boyfriend. I wrote happiness in an attempt to cheer her up. That was nice of you! ^_^ [align=center] Apple Tree In spring, a massive tree of green dotted white with flowers seen, in which the bees so pollinate, from which my allergies originate. In summer, green and spots of brown are seen upon the leaves still there, while apples green, not yet prepared, are not yet ready for plucking down. In fall, leaves bright in autumn flare fall through the trees in bright array, while apples juicy, sweet and red are picked to eat for another day In winter, not a leaf remains to decorate the skeletal frame which stands alone in a vast field, and while we wait for spring, we yield, and eat the apples while we wait, and eat the apples while we wait. [/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Gamesmaster Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 First line, fourth stanza throws off the meter. While iamb-amphibrach-amphibrach-iamb does have a melodious flow, it doesn't work within iambic tetrameter as, say, amphimacer-iamb-iamb does. I'd also take the "yet" out of second stanza, fourth line, to avoid metrical mishaps and redundance. The metaphorical significance of the poem is astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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