Dark Armed Dragon & Sillva, Warlord of Dark World

[YoMeN88]

Dark Armed Dragon

" This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having exactly 3 DARK monsters in your Graveyard. You can remove from play 1 DARK monster from your Graveyard to destroy 1 card on the field. "

 

I have a problem regarding the bold letters. There is a case which sometimes I can't special summon this card even though I have already 3 dark monster on my graveyard? What does exactly mean by 3 exactly DARK monsters? Do I need to have 3 same dark monster on the graveyard? But I already do those requirements? What do you think is the problem?

 

 

Sillva, Warlord of Dark World

"If this card is discarded from the hand to the Graveyard by a card effect, Special Summon this card to your side of the field. If this card is discarded from the hand to the Graveyard by your opponent's card effect, your opponent selects 2 cards in their hand, and returns them to the bottom of their Deck in any order."

 

In here, I can't use the effect of special summon. Well, it work when I used card destruction but when I try to use it w/ Dark Core the effect of Sillva did not activate. Beside card destruction, do you know other card which can activate the effect of this card?

[Father Wolf]

u only need 3 Darks. no more no less. u dont need the same named darks, any darks will do

and card destruction works with sillva, the Core doesnt because its a COST! and goldd has the same effect.

[Exiro]

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-53747.html

 

Go ask it there.

 

Also, be clear about who exactly says that you can't do those things. I assume it's a DS game where you're not allowed to, but you didn't say which. You're just being vague.

[YoMeN88]

u only need 3 Darks. no more no less. u dont need the same named darks' date=' any darks will do

and card destruction works with sillva, the Core doesnt because its a [b']COST![/b] and goldd has the same effect.

 

Ohhh. Now I get. So that's why I can't use its effect because I need ONLY 3 Darks on the graveyard.

 

Regarding Sillva and Goldd, if I use the effect of Dark Grepher for example and I discard either Sillva and Goldd to special summon Dark Grepher. Will it work or not because it still a cost?

[Father Wolf]

u only need 3 Darks. no more no less. u dont need the same named darks' date=' any darks will do

and card destruction works with sillva, the Core doesnt because its a [b']COST![/b] and goldd has the same effect.

 

Ohhh. Now I get. So that's why I can't use its effect because I need ONLY 3 Darks on the graveyard.

 

Regarding Sillva and Goldd, if I use the effect of Dark Grepher for example and I discard either Sillva and Goldd to special summon Dark Grepher. Will it work or not because it still a cost?

 

it wouldn't work

 

 

normally anything like this

 

Example:

Discard *insert card here*. Special summon this card. < that's a cost

 

but if its like this

 

Example:

Special summon this card. Discard *insert card here* < that's an effect

 

its all about wording

[Shadowstorm]

so i can't tribute summon DaD if i have 4 darks in my graveyard?

[Luna Diviner]

Lol no.

[YoMeN88]

u only need 3 Darks. no more no less. u dont need the same named darks' date=' any darks will do

and card destruction works with sillva, the Core doesnt because its a [b']COST![/b] and goldd has the same effect.

 

Ohhh. Now I get. So that's why I can't use its effect because I need ONLY 3 Darks on the graveyard.

 

Regarding Sillva and Goldd, if I use the effect of Dark Grepher for example and I discard either Sillva and Goldd to special summon Dark Grepher. Will it work or not because it still a cost?

 

it wouldn't work

 

 

normally anything like this

 

Example:

Discard *insert card here*. Special summon this card. < that's a cost

 

but if its like this

 

Example:

Special summon this card. Discard *insert card here* < that's an effect

 

its all about wording

 

So it won't work either? Do you know other card beside card destruction that will trigger the effect of Sillva and Goldd?

 

so i can't tribute summon DaD if i have 4 darks in my graveyard?

 

Yes you can't. You need exactly 3 darks only in the graveyard to activate the effect of DaD

[tonisanoob]

my god

 

the only things that actually work

are

card destruction

dark world dealings

dark world lightning

morphing jar

 

thats it really

[Exiro]

my god

 

the only things that actually work

are

card destruction

dark world dealings

dark world lightning

morphing jar

 

thats it really

 

No love for Rigorous Reaver?

[GenzoTheHarpist]

my god

 

the only things that actually work

are

card destruction

dark world dealings

dark world lightning

morphing jar

 

thats it really

 

Doesn't one of the blackwings have an effect that works?

[Sleepy]

my god

 

the only things that actually work

are

card destruction

dark world dealings

dark world lightning

morphing jar

 

thats it really

 

maybe:

-hand destruction

-Brron, Mad King of Dark World

;)

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

my god

 

the only things that actually work

are

card destruction

dark world dealings

dark world lightning

morphing jar

 

thats it really

 

maybe:

-hand destruction

-Brron' date=' Mad King of Dark World

;)

[/quote']

 

Hand Destruction doesn't work.

Brron works, but it's terrible.

 

Cheerful Coffin and Fine also work, but are terrible.

[Tronta]

true enough, but using forced requisition to cheerful coffin is funny.

 

another way to discard is overloading your hand.

if you have more than 6, you have to discard :P

[GenzoTheHarpist]

true enough' date=' but using forced requisition to cheerful coffin is funny.

 

another way to discard is overloading your hand.

if you have more than 6, you have to discard :P

[/quote']

 

That's not a card effect though so it doesn't work.

[Sleepy]

my god

 

the only things that actually work

are

card destruction

dark world dealings

dark world lightning

morphing jar

 

thats it really

 

maybe:

-hand destruction

-Brron' date=' Mad King of Dark World

;)

[/quote']

 

Hand Destruction doesn't work.

Brron works, but it's terrible.

 

Cheerful Coffin and Fine also work, but are terrible.

 

I had my doubts about hand destruction

 

do you remember the name of that trap that dark worlds use? the one where you pay 1000 Life Points to transfrom the effect of an opponent's Spell Card into "discard 1 card from your opponent's hand"

I guess that one works but I can't remember its name..... >_<"

 

EDIT: would anyone think Dark Worlds would see alot more use if their effects were:

"If this card is sent from your hand to the Graveyard by a cost, Special Summon it. If this card is discarded by a card effect [insert DW effect here]..." :)

[LostLetter227]

Dark Deal? And definetly. But then everybody would start using Vortex and stuff. Then Dark World will ( never thought I'd say this ) kill DAD.

[YoMeN88]

my god

 

the only things that actually work

are

card destruction

dark world dealings

dark world lightning

morphing jar

 

thats it really

 

maybe:

-hand destruction

-Brron' date=' Mad King of Dark World

;)

[/quote']

 

Hand Destruction doesn't work.

Brron works, but it's terrible.

 

Cheerful Coffin and Fine also work, but are terrible.

 

I had my doubts about hand destruction

 

do you remember the name of that trap that dark worlds use? the one where you pay 1000 Life Points to transfrom the effect of an opponent's Spell Card into "discard 1 card from your opponent's hand"

I guess that one works but I can't remember its name..... >_<"

 

EDIT: would anyone think Dark Worlds would see alot more use if their effects were:

"If this card is sent from your hand to the Graveyard by a cost, Special Summon it. If this card is discarded by a card effect [insert DW effect here]..." :)

 

So hand destruction won't work too? I hope you remember that card.

[Exiro]

Fun Fact:

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Fun Fact:

 

Irrelevant much?

[guy person]

No love for royal tribute?

[Sander]

No love for Demonic Roaring God Raven?

[Umbra]

No love for Demonic Roaring God Raven?

[Sleepy]

my god

 

the only things that actually work

are

card destruction

dark world dealings

dark world lightning

morphing jar

 

thats it really

 

maybe:

-hand destruction

-Brron' date=' Mad King of Dark World

;)

[/quote']

 

Hand Destruction doesn't work.

Brron works, but it's terrible.

 

Cheerful Coffin and Fine also work, but are terrible.

 

I had my doubts about hand destruction

 

do you remember the name of that trap that dark worlds use? the one where you pay 1000 Life Points to transfrom the effect of an opponent's Spell Card into "discard 1 card from your opponent's hand"

I guess that one works but I can't remember its name..... >_<"

 

EDIT: would anyone think Dark Worlds would see alot more use if their effects were:

"If this card is sent from your hand to the Graveyard by a cost, Special Summon it. If this card is discarded by a card effect [insert DW effect here]..." :)

 

So hand destruction won't work too? I hope you remember that card.

 

no it seems not, I thought it was an effect and not a cost the one of "Hand Destruction" =/ ... I have an idea of this kind of stuff, but sinse I don't actually enter tournaments, I'm not an expert and tend to make errors with details...so I'll just trust POLARIS about it until someone else disagrees ...

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Hand Destruction is an effect, not a cost. However it does not work because it "send to the graveyard" rather than discarding.